Titanic tourist submersible goes missing with search under way

[bookers]

If nobody will test your design because it's fucking retarded, the next step is to come up with something that isn't fucking retarded, not ship it.

This is it. They weren't gatekeeping him.
they were saying 'this is fucking retarded, dont waste our time'.
if you watched the video of the construction of his vessel its fucking laughable and insane
and on top of that him having xbox controllers in the front

play retarded games, win retarded prizes

 

[Mr.Bucket]

This thread reminds me that someone made a video of building the miniature of that mini-sub. And exploded it.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7myoxoE6Nqk

I used to watch him but stopped when he started politisperging more and more. I wonder if he has knocked that shit off yet.

 

[Foltest]

I remember reading about the kid who died, were very reluctant to enter titan, but his dad convicted him to enter it.

 

[Smithfield Ham]

Seriously, the fact that the carbon fiber wasn't even the problem fucks me up so bad. They literally built this piece of shit so badly that the fact that it was made out of cheap plastic wasn't even on the shortlist of their biggest failures.

 

[bookers]

My man saw videos of spics using makeshift subs to smuggle drugs into the US
and was like 'wow why cant i do that, except i want to go to the bottom of the ocean'.
lmao.

 

[Mr.Bucket]

and on top of that him having xbox controllers in the front

Not even that. They cheaped out and used a wireless Logitech. Didn't even spring for an actual Xbox controller.

After this shit happened I got the wired version of the Logitech for shits n gigs. It's...serviceable.


Edit: Oh man I just remembered all the dipshits defending using a controller because "zomg they use Xbox controllers on military submarines!" Two things for those: they're not bargain basement logitechs. And they're used for non-critical tertiary systems, not piloting the damn sub.

 

[scubain]

If oversight of submersibles, such as through classification or registration with a flag state, relies largely on voluntary action from owners and operators, submersibles are likely to operate without oversight, increasing the risk they will not be compliant with

The classic solution of "MORE REGULATION MORE GOVERNMENT EXPANSION MORE REGULATION" after any tragedy ever. The market already figured out that businesses like OceanGate are retarded and don't deserve success via the company immediately fucking collapsing

 

[Mr.Bucket]

immediately fucking collapsing

I would have gone with "immediately fucking imploding", personally. It'd be more poetic.

 

[Angry Shoes]

This sort of attitude is just total nigger rigging that in any other industry (aviation, as Rush wanted to go to space and would have to go through aerospace) would’ve had him thrown out the door in no time. You don’t ever try to do this shit without implicitly knowing it’s wrong. What a disgusting retard for taking other lives down with him.

It seems like he had techbro mentality. All the people in the industry weren't experts who do everything for a specific reason, they're just old and stuck in their ways. They're afraid of a guy with brand new ideas coming in and disrupting the entire industry. Move fast and break things.

 

[goh]

I just want to pile on and say that not only is the CEO a retarded scumbag, his team was as well.

Imagine you're the CEO's wife and you're actively monitoring a dangerous deep sea expedition. You hear a loud bang. Common sense tells me you would be worried, you'd maybe note it and look into what happened. But no. Instead you smirk and meander around the room with your dusty, lead-brained buddies.

This shit happened before. Obviously, we know that for a fact now, but this is the reaction of a negligent crew going through the motions. They murdered these people.

I can't get over this aspect now that I'm aware of it. That's her husband, kiwis. And I know it could be a nervous reaction or maybe she really wasn't that involved in the technical process, but... Jesus. It's just macabre to me that she witnessed the death of several people, including her husband, and she's nonchalant. Because "loud bangs" were routine at the bottom of the ocean, apparently.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

everything about that sub was quintessentially indian and I'm very surprised that the guy wasn't a jeet

He took out Paki jeet billionaire Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman. Hilariously Suleman didn't want to go down but his father made him. Some poo got flushed and that's the important thing.

 

[Pierre D'Olnique]

I just want to pile on and say that not only is the CEO a retarded scumbag, his team was as well.

Imagine you're the CEO's wife and you're actively monitoring a dangerous deep sea expedition. You hear a loud bang. Common sense tells me you would be worried, you'd maybe note it and look into what happened. But no. Instead you smirk and meander around the room with your dusty, lead-brained buddies.

you misread the old guy's reaction
the instant he heard the bang he locked eyes with white shirt because they both knew shit was completely fucked, they simply didn't have the heart to tell the wife
white shirt immediately walks out to compose himself and relay the news to the rest of the crew, then dark shirt walks in and starts documenting the circumstances of the accident
i mean what was he supposed to do, lay it on her like "sorry babe, your husband just got smushed into jello"

 

[Smithfield Ham]

This is it. They weren't gatekeeping him.
they were saying 'this is fucking retarded, dont waste our time'.
if you watched the video of the construction of his vessel its fucking laughable and insane
and on top of that him having xbox controllers in the front

play retarded games, win retarded prizes

One of the most frustrating parts of the story is how tons of people told Stockton explicitly, in no uncertain terms, that he was going to get himself and several other people killed. Not even just in a dismissive "you're a retard" way, but in a "here's the actual science behind it, here is the exact problem down to the most intricate details, here's what you need to do different."

But every single fucking time, the airheaded boomer narcissist just spouts some canned motivational phrase at them that reads like it was shit out by ChatGPT or copied from an old book of cliches, and goes back to building his Ed Edd n Eddy ass toy submarine turned toy coffin.

 

[Fruttasecca]

Common sense tells me you would be worried, you'd maybe note it and look into what happened. But no. Instead you smirk and meander around the room with your dusty, lead-brained buddies.

You werent there, you dont know these people, stop being judgemental about strangers reactions to situations that have nothing to do with you, you fucking bitch.

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

People are saying he's Indian in spirit, which might be true, but really, he's the Avatar of the Boomer, the rich Boomer who knows it all, refuses advice or warnings, and has insane flights of fancy for some hobby because he won economically in his 20's and has been bored for 35 years.

 

[Agares]

Not even CEOs and billionaires are immune from the competency crisis.

 

[din365]

Exact Findings

• Findings as to causes and contributing factors
• These are the factors that were found to have caused or contributed to the occurrence.
  • The as-built properties of the Titan’s carbon fibre cylinder were never validated to ensure they met the theoretical values used in the design process, and the construction and testing of the Titan did not follow standard engineering practices. As a result, OceanGate did not know for how long the pressure hull would remain safe when used repeatedly for dives to the depth of the Titanic.
  • OceanGate had developed the strain monitoring system to provide data for post-dive analysis to identify potential problems with the pressure hull that could lead to failure on a subsequent dive. However, OceanGate’s analysis of the strain data was inconsistent
    and did not result in the pressure hull being removed from service before its failure.
  • The acoustic emission monitoring system was being relied upon to provide enough advance warning for the submersible to surface in the event of an impending hull failure. However, this system had not been tested to demonstrate that it would
    consistently provide enough advance warning, and it did not function as intended during the occurrence.
  • The reduced compressive strength of the Titan’s carbon fibre cylinder, as well as defects that were potentially introduced during manufacturing, operations, storage, and transport of the Titan, likely led the cylinder to fail progressively with damage
    accumulating during each dive cycle until it imploded, fatally injuring all 5 people on board.
  • Risk management at OceanGate was hindered by the structure and composition of the company as well as by the influence of power dynamics and social and psychological factors. As a result, OceanGate did not identify and mitigate key risks associated with the structural integrity of the Titan.
• Findings as to risk
• These are the factors in the occurrence that were found to pose a risk to the transportation system. These factors may or may not have been causal or contributing to the occurrence but could pose a risk in the future.
  • If oversight of submersibles, such as through classification or registration with a flag state, relies largely on voluntary action from owners and operators, submersibles are likely to operate without oversight, increasing the risk they will not be compliant with
    international and national safety regulations and guidelines that provide a minimum level of safety.
  • Canada’s approach to regulatory oversight of vessels enabled the Titan to operate without any independent verification to identify safety deficiencies, which resulted in increased risk to those involved in the Titan’s operations.
  • If submersible operators do not have detailed emergency response plans to manage all possible emergency scenarios, including readily available and proven rescue resources, the lives of those involved in the submersible’s operations are at risk.
  • When groups work on board a vessel without comprehensive guidance from a bridging document to integrate safety management between their operations and those of the vessel, there is a risk that operations will be conducted without the necessary safeguards, potentially compromising the safety of people, vessels, and the environment.
• Miscellaneous Findings
• These findings resolve an issue of controversy, identify a mitigating circumstance, or acknowledge a noteworthy element of the occurrence.
  • OceanGate’s missed communications protocol allowed time for communication problems to be fixed or resolve on their own and did not require emergency procedures to be initiated immediately.
  • Limited information sharing between TC and other government departments results in TC missing opportunities to access information that could be useful in assessing risk in commercial vessel operations and determining the appropriate level of oversight.

Reccomendations

• The Department of Transport define criteria and priorities for risk-based oversight of Canadian commercial vessels that are not required to be certified, such that these criteria and priorities make it possible to evaluate the risk posed by the operation of these vessels and lead to additional oversight
• The Department of Transport define criteria and priorities for risk-based oversight of commercial vessels not registered or captured by port state control processes, and that these criteria and priorities make it possible to evaluate the risk posed by the operation of these vessels and act accordingly
• The Department of Transport establish processes to obtain information from other government departments about commercial vessel operations such that it can evaluate the risk of those operations and act accordingly
• The Department of Transport advocate to the International Maritime Organization that the guidance in Maritime Safety Committee Circular 981 be incorporated into international conventions or codes.
• The Department of Transport require all human-occupied submersibles that are registered in Canada, operating with a Canadian support ship, or operating in Canadian waters or Canada’s exclusive economic zone, to comply with the requirements of the International Maritime Organization’s Maritime Safety Committee Circular 981.
• The Department of Transport ensure that, when 1 or more groups work onboard a Canadian vessel or a vessel to which the Coasting Trade Act applies, safety management principles of the group(s) are integrated to the operations of the vessel, including the use of a bridging document, to clarify how operations will be coordinated and how safety will be managed.

So basically, to sum it up, the carbon hull may have had a defect in manufacturing that got worse wih each dive, and nobody checked this because the company was ran by a cheapskate asshole that his own employees were too scared to speak up to, thus he took 6 others down with his cheap and angry retardation

 

[Bookwork]

So did the 20 minutes spending diagnosing the issue and their attempted emergency ascent false or true?

False. The 20-minute thing comes from a debunked transcript. The tell is that the fictional transcript - a big Reddit fave - includes communications from the TItan that are lengthier and more detailed than anything Titan sent or could send given the janky gear Stockton Rush used. (NYT | free archived version).

The actual communications are detailed in the U.S. Coast Guard's August 2025 report (PDF, timeline starts at p. 20) - actual 20-minute message in bold below:

June 16, 2023, 8:30 a.m.: The five participants were sealed into Titan.

9:14 a.m.: Titan began its free fall. Usually Titan would have stayed near the surface for a communications check, but this time did not.

9:18 a.m.: Titan, at about 165 ft, sent the message "k" as a communications check.

9:28 a.m.: Titan confirmed the vessel was descending at a rate of 33m per minute.

9:53 a.m.: Communication was lost for about 15 minutes, prompting the surface ship, Polar Prince, to repeatedly send: “Do you see Polar Prince on your display?”

10:08 a.m.: Titan sent the message "k." Titan resumed sending messages about its position.

10:11:18 a.m.: Titan messaged that it could see the surface ship on its display, "all good here."

10:47:02 a.m.: Titan sent a message that it "dropped two wts," indicating it dropped ballast weights to slow its descent.

10:47:08 a.m.: Titan sent an automated transmission recording its final location, 3,346.28m deep.

10:47:09 a.m.: Titan imploded.

10:47:11 a.m.: Surface ship tracking team heard felt a shudder and heard a "bang."

But of course the official version is false and the made-up version is true because Donald Trump is really JFK Jr., no wait, he's actually JFK Sr., and Melania ate Jackie's ovaries to stay so young. I learned that on Reddit and I am now smart.

 

[Red Saltire]

Im not an engineer so here comes a retarded question: Why use carbon fiber at all for this application? I thought carbon fiber is typically for use cases where weight shedding is paramount. You’re not really worried about total weight in this scenario, right? You’re being carried by a ship and then dropped in the ocean. You could weigh basically as much as you want. I suppose your thrusters would need more juice if you weigh more but if I was going to the bottom of the ocean over and over, why not mill the whole fucking thing out of a solid steel ingot?

 

[not william stenchever]

There's an aviation saying that safety rules are written in blood. Oceangate was like if an airline operated some falling apart shitty homemade planes and said "yeah its safe because the guy who built them only had 3 beers first!"

I once got to do a simulated landing of a passenger jet and I took that shit seriously and listened to the expert right next me to get the articulated cockpit onto the digital ground. I was not in danger of imploding along with everyone else in the module but I really didn't want to see what the thing could do if I crashed us. Really puts Rush's anti safety mindset into prospective.