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Funny thing is that this is explicitly banned in the Bible and refers to a form of rape commonly practiced in the Middle East where Arabs rape their defeated/imprisoned enemies to show dominance.

This essentially doesn't exist in any Western culture.

it was part of enslavement in classical antiquity, it's a fundamental part of the social distinction between the free and enslaved in Rome and why the status of freedman or son of a freedman was stigmatized vis a vis the never-been-enslaved. So it did exist in Western culture, but Christianity (which in this context is very much universalized Judaism and this is a good example of why Judeo-Christian values is a real thing) got people to stop being disgusting.
 
Wyświetl załącznik 9101725Funny thing is that this is explicitly banned in the Bible and refers to a form of rape commonly practiced in the Middle East where Arabs rape their defeated/imprisoned enemies to show dominance.

This essentially doesn't exist in any Western culture.
Huh? Romans did this constantly. It is absolutely a feature of Muslims, that is 100% true, but we have first-hand accounts of HRE soldiers doing it when they sacked Rome and Magdeburg, the Dutch did it during the Eighty Years War, and the Spanish did this a lot as well in both Europe and the New World.

Granted, the West doesn't tolerate that shit now, while Muslims still do it.
 
Huh? Romans did this constantly. It is absolutely a feature of Muslims, that is 100% true, but we have first-hand accounts of HRE soldiers doing it when they sacked Rome and Magdeburg, the Dutch did it during the Eighty Years War, and the Spanish did this a lot as well in both Europe and the New World.

Granted, the West doesn't tolerate that shit now, while Muslims still do it.
The Dutch and Spanish raped men?
 
I didn't see this until after I did my above post, but it's very different. The Soviets were foundationally and nominally Leninist, but pursued an express policy of peaceful coexistence with the West because both sides had nukes. While the Soviets were pretty fucking wild, they wanted to avoid nuclear war because they understood very well that it could end the entire world. Their leaders actually understood the power of nukes, the dire consequences (even if anyone survived), and how dangerous these weapons are.

This led to severe disagreements: Castro told Krushchev, explicitly, to nuke the US during the Cuban Missile Crisis even if that meant Cuba would be annihilated. Mao also condemned Krushchev and basically called him and the Soviets pussies for not starting a nuclear holocaust. Soviet communism was not great by any means, but it was the most realistic because it was, at the time, the most powerful and a serious rival to the US. Now that the US has no peer and the Soviets called it quits, all that's left are the extremist Leninists and the leftover, reform-oriented champagne socialists in Europe.

China is willing to do business with us, economically, but the Soviets were far more diplomatic. We should be very concerned about China building up its nuclear arsenal, which it has done rapidly over the past 5 years. They do have an explicitly no first strike policy, which is good, but there are radicals in their government who want to destroy the US in a literal sense. The best outcome is the US continues to outpace China economically, militarily, and diplomatically, and China keeps its nukes as a "hey, don't fuck with us" policy instead of doing what Iran wants to do.

Or instead of Israel's dangerous-ass nuclear doctrine.

counterpoint: the USSR was a serious and expansionist ideological rival, China just wants to be China and be left alone to be China. This is a serious existential threat to everyone SE Asia and Central Asia, it is not to us. "Radicals in the government who want to destroy the US" are tardwrangled just like the people in our government who want to build the third temple and immanentize the eschaton. countercounterpoint following on the first: the Soviets chose faithfulness to their retard ideology over having a functional economy. The CCP on the other hand animorphed from Maoism into Nationalsozialistische Chinesisch Arbeiterpartei. Therefore unlike the USSR the PRC continues to exist.

however none of any of this matters, the only thing that matters is who is having children
 
I mean I’m pretty poor, but I couldn’t imagine taking a fucking bus
Busses are how crackheads and homeless people get around
I've never taken a bus but I'm curious what it even costs to ride a bus for any appreciable distance. My truck is paid off, my insurance is $60 a month, I get 20 miles a gallon, so right now it costs me about $9 ($2/day for insurance+$7 in gas) to have my truck available to me to pick up groceries, and were a bus available I wouldn't be able to do it on my own time so I'm saving time there. The only public transit I've ever used was the trams in New Orleans and I did that more for the novelty because it ended up being faster to just walk most of the time, I think a two day pass was $7. The trams had the advantage of not allowing homeless people to sleep in the back because at the end of the line everyone had to get off so they could spin the seats around to travel back to the other end of the line
Unfortunately this does also mean you'd need to start carding people to use the bus.
As we all know BIPOCs are incapable of acquiring IDs so that's basically just a defacto ban, sounds like a win-win to me
 
et's see wanting something reasonable like a once daily service in almost every single major city so places like Las Vegas or Columbus Ohio or even Tulsa should be connected by train. Again im not arguing for coast to coast high speed rail im just asking for america to fix its rail transit system to where it was in the 1970s that it basically reached all of the lower 48 states by passenger service.
I hate everything about flying and would would love to hop a relaxing train like it was 1938 to get between cities for work.
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But we have these things called "niggers" now. They ruin everything that is nice when it comes to transportation. If your train transport becomes cheaper then airfare then your just going to get SpiritAir but on rails and your trapped on it for 16 hours.
No one knows this because even transit activists don't actually ride transit.
My state dumps BILLIONS in to our bus and commuter rail. We have dedicated express bus roads between a few cities. You can get to basically any city and large town by public transit. The state gives free bus fare to state parks and other events if your on EBT. A/C and free wifi.
No one fucking rides it.
They had to resort to door sensors to boost their ridership numbers because the niggers and homeless where getting on with out paying the fares.
The bus driver unions sued to get the transit authority to build them steel and plexiglass wagie cages around the driver seat because the drivers where getting attacked constantly by violent homeless and niggers.
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We have million dollar state of the art Hybrid and Electric busses driving around constantly that are just used as mobile toilets and a place to shoot up.

Until they are willing to talk about the root cause of why no one wants to actually use masstransit the train autists might as well be talking about a monorail on the moon.
 
The Dutch and Spanish raped men?
You're right, the vast majority of it was rape of women and girls, but there are some accounts suggesting male-on-male sexual violence.
counterpoint: the USSR was a serious and expansionist ideological rival, China just wants to be China and be left alone to be China. This is a serious existential threat to everyone SE Asia and Central Asia, it is not to us. "Radicals in the government who want to destroy the US" are tardwrangled just like the people in our government who want to build the third temple and immanentize the eschaton. countercounterpoint following on the first: the Soviets chose faithfulness to their retard ideology over having a functional economy. The CCP on the other hand animorphed from Maoism into Nationalsozialistische Chinesisch Arbeiterpartei. Therefore unlike the USSR the PRC continues to exist.
Considering China's initiatives in Central Asia and Africa, I don't agree that China does not want to expand.
however none of any of this matters, the only thing that matters is who is having children
Fair enough.
 
China just wants to be China and be left alone to be China
I think this is an incomplete description of China's ambitions. Their direct territorial goals are somewhat restricted by their conception of what traditionally constitutes "all under heaven," but they absolutely want to compromise and subordinate other countries so that China becomes the unquestioned #1 country in the world that everyone else pays tribute to.
 
You're right, the vast majority of it was rape of women and girls, but there are some accounts suggesting male-on-male sexual violence.
The topic was specifically raping defeated warriors, i.e. men. If it’s just rape in general you could easily bring up WW2 to demonstrate we don’t have that out of our system.
 
Why are we fighting Platner again? Are we sure he wasn't just trying to be some sort of undercover turbo chud and we're ruined his odds to 'own' the dems? The dems won't even let you defend yourself in your own home and here we have one who wants to not only defend against but rape assailants, while wielding an axe (very fascionable) and a nazi tattoo. That sounds like winning the battle of moving the overton window to me!
 
Did Mao himself ever go into battle? There was the long march and the entirety of the warlord era but I've never looked into it so I'm not sure if he just foisted all the uncomfortable and dangerous stuff onto the proles like many communist leaders.

Mao was one of the greatest generals of all time and the primary reason he was followed with such devoted loyalty was his hardcore on the ground battle suffering shared with his men. He's basically commie George Washington except the Chinese didn't get suckered into not venerating him anymore like we did.
 
Charlie Kirk's legacy has been completely and utterly tarnished. He and anyone who supported him is now the laughingstock of the world.
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This is the face of the man who has defeated the right once and for all. Total Tyler Robinson Victory.
Man the doompills must be fucking rotten if this is the best you’ve got, that the same people who murdered Charlie Kirk still hate him.
 
Mao was one of the greatest generals of all time and the primary reason he was followed with such devoted loyalty was his hardcore on the ground battle suffering shared with his men. He's basically commie George Washington except the Chinese didn't get suckered into not venerating him anymore like we did.
Washington could've been king but he was more humble, didn't establish a dictatorship with a cult of personality and his policies didn't cause millions of people to die because of incompetence. He was also a field commander and as well as a strategic one. Did Mao even lead soldiers into battle?

The CCP deserves some credit for being able to outmaneuver the KMT (by allowing the Nationalists to do a great deal of the fighting and dying against the Japanese) and surviving the Long March but a lot of claims about Mao were blown out of proportion or made up by design in order to make himself the central figure in a state narrative.
 
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