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That's it I'm so sick of everyone here misunderstanding what "Strategic Martyrdom" is, OBVIOUSLY, the people in charge would prefer if the country they are ruling over is still functioning coming out of this war, when these towelheads talk about "Martyrdom", they are talking about specific, revered figures in their society that would inspire fellow Muslims to join in on the jihad if they were eliminated(we can argue that effective that line of thinking is, but that's just what they mean), Iran is the last major source of opposition against Zionist and Western Ideals, if they fall, that's it, all of their proxies either fall or are rendered irrelevant.

It's like you fuckers genuinely can't comprehend at the idea of Iran not surrendering everything to America after just 5 weeks of bombing and a few months of blockades, so obviously they just be stoopid, when considering the current circumstances, it perfectly makes sense to just keep being defiant for now.
You just spent a paragraph explaining why they're stupid then claiming they're not stupid. I get your point when trying to see things from their stupid perspective but it is in fact stupid. Being a martyr for islamist cause is the stupid thing they're doing that we're calling them on.

I think you're trying to argue that this stupidness is going to be a secret weapon that trump underestimates to his disadvantage and that is possible, but it is in fact stupidness.

We keep making fun of Europeans for being soft sissies, but the behavior here shows to me that you aren't that different from them, you actually consider being subjected to that level of force enough to surrender, you know, the United Kingdom was subjected to way deadlier air raids from the Luftwaffe during the Battle for Britain and remained ever defiant in those months, and you bitches would have begged for peace talks after a month if you were alive at that time.
Europeans are sissies for not being willing to defend something based and great.

Muzzies are stupid because they are willing to defend something retarded and gay.

Yes I realize this is a simpleton mindset but I'm being 100% serious. This is how I see the world now and I hate myself for not being here sooner.
 
Did Hezbollah DIRECTLY spoke with the President of the USA?!?!?!
TRAITOR!!! WE ARE DROPPING ALL SUPPORT!!!
There's only one Ayatollah and he sits in the Shia House of the Islamic States of America.

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We keep making fun of Europeans for being soft sissies, but the behavior here shows to me that you aren't that different from them, you actually consider being subjected to that level of force enough to surrender, you know, the United Kingdom was subjected to way deadlier air raids from the Luftwaffe during the Battle for Britain and remained ever defiant in those months, and you bitches would have begged for peace talks after a month if you were alive at that time.
One of the most retarded, nonsensical, shit-for-brains, Fatpaks-logic level messages I've ever seen in this thread. Did you think about this for more than 2 seconds or was the thread insulting Mudslime izzat too much for you to bear for another hecking second?

"You think your significantly less powerful enemies with more to lose should surrender after a couple bombings so clearly you apply that same standard to people in completely different positions, and by extension yourself!"

This isn't a fucking chess match. We obviously have different standards for what is and isn't reasonable for ourselves compared to the enemy.

Adolf and Der Funky Bunch should've surrendered long before the Russians were literally raping their women and shooting their conscripted children in the streets, that doesn't mean I think the US should've surrendered to Japan 5 minutes after Pearl Harbor.
 
Bibi is already on Twitter trying to save face again. The comments are not happy lol.
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So I'm getting bridge and powerplant day, but it'll be in Lebanon not Iran?

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Tehran's largest reservoir is half empty.
Hold on I was assured Iran got more rain this year than last year. It can't be the capital is running out of water, again, as foretold months ago. This is impossible, the IRCG is winning and just has to survive to claim total victory.

That's not as bad as it might seem. Lake Mead is down to 30% and no one is evacuating Las Vegas or plotting to overthrow the ((Democrat)) mayor.
Vegas didn't run out of water last year, Commifornia has already pinky promised to steal less water from the colorado to reverse the trend, the entire water system for mead hasn't been mismanged with make-work projects covering grifting.

The might of the IRGC Navy.
This looks like a ski-show at Sea world.

Iran is closing ALL their gates!
The ceasefire is as intact as the closure of the straight of homoz.

They're really shit at identifying these projectiles.
Petition to the UN to require all ships transiting through or within 50 miles of a conflict zone must have at least one milsperg on watch at all times.

That's it I'm so sick of everyone here misunderstanding what "Strategic Martyrdom" is, OBVIOUSLY, the people in charge would prefer if the country they are ruling over is still functioning coming out of this war, when these towelheads talk about "Martyrdom", they are talking about specific, revered figures in their society that would inspire fellow Muslims to join in on the jihad if they were eliminated(we can argue that effective that line of thinking is, but that's just what they mean), Iran is the last major source of opposition against Zionist and Western Ideals, if they fall, that's it, all of their proxies either fall or are rendered irrelevant.

It's like you fuckers genuinely can't comprehend at the idea of Iran not surrendering everything to America after just 5 weeks of bombing and a few months of blockades, so obviously they just be stoopid, when considering the current circumstances, it perfectly makes sense to just keep being defiant for now.

We keep making fun of Europeans for being soft sissies, but the behavior here shows to me that you aren't that different from them, you actually consider being subjected to that level of force enough to surrender, you know, the United Kingdom was subjected to way deadlier air raids from the Luftwaffe during the Battle for Britain and remained ever defiant in those months, and you bitches would have begged for peace talks after a month if you were alive at that time.
Excellent fakepost, its completely indistinguishable from a Low-IQ brown sucking BRIC as you multipolar yourself, even down to the "you can't kill muslims or they win".
Should have included a "petrodollar" reference for max points.
 
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Iran may have killed 1 US service member and one bong. "Training accident" is about as suspicious as 'gas leak explosion.'
Edit: Fixed error.
The US doesn't lie about that kinda shit. With how pervasive TDS is they couldn't even if they wanted to. Within an hour someone involved in the incident or in the processing of the remains would be DMing the NYT the full story.
 
You just spent a paragraph explaining why they're stupid then claiming they're not stupid. I get your point when trying to see things from their stupid perspective but it is in fact stupid. Being a martyr for islamist cause is the stupid thing they're doing that we're calling them on.

I think you're trying to argue that this stupidness is going to be a secret weapon that trump underestimates to his disadvantage and that is possible, but it is in fact stupidness.
My post isn't concerned about the moralism of being an Islamic fundamentalist, that's a whole different argument that we both can agree is retarded because dying for something that doesn't exist (and a 7th century pedophile) is retarded in the first place.

What I am talking about is the value of being stubborn in your ideals and how willing you really are at taking losses, which is something Iran has proven to be quite adept at, you have no idea how many wars in history were won by the winner willing to play the attrition game and outlasted their enemy doing it, no matter how ultimately stupid the rationale behind the war in the first place was.

It's why Trump is stuck, he can't break Iran and is constrained by domestic politics to do anything more.

In geopolitics and military history, the only thing that will EVER matter is who can win, yeah, its satisfying to point and laugh at belligerent parties who are both bloodthirsty and have incredibly retarded ideals just to get pounced and destroyed, but more often than not, those types of people are often victorious as well and have left their mark on history.
 
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President Trump crashed out on Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu during the phone call on Monday over Israel’s escalation in Lebanon, according to Axios.

Trump was said to be furious over civilian casualties and Israeli threats to strike Beirut, warning Netanyahu that further escalation would deepen Israel’s international isolation and threaten negotiations with Iran, leading to Bibi calling off strikes on the Lebanese capital.

Trump told Netanyahu: “You’re fucking crazy. You’d be in prison if it weren’t for me. I’m saving your ass. Everybody hates you now. Everybody hates Israel because of this.”

Another source said Trump shouted: “What the fuck are you doing?” and accused Netanyahu of undermining diplomatic efforts.

Netanyahu's response to Trump: "OK, OK, just make sure everything is taken care of."

One U.S. official described it as among the worst calls between the two leaders since Trump returned to office.
It's Axios quoting unnamed sources so it's probably bullshit.

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The reason Bibi wanted to level Beirut.
 
The British service member was most certainly too distracted praising Allah,
flying on the wrong side of the sky, having tea and biscuits, dying from lack of air conditioning, and having fucked up teeth which caused the accident.
 
genuine question but what is stopping us from just going in there and purging iran of the IRGC entirely? are we worried about china or russia joining in? i get that trump ideally would want to avoid a full blown forever war on the scale of iraq or afganistan especially due to midterms but it just seems strange that we went from taking out their guys left and right to now seemingly hitting a wall where it feels like nobody really knows how to proceed. iran will never agree to peace without a catch of some kind and our attacks have given them more than enough data to prepare better should we ever try this again. i could be wrong but this really feels like a moment where we should just rip the band-aid off already.
 
genuine question but what is stopping us from just going in there and purging iran of the IRGC entirely?
trump needs congresss to approve of a real war like that, and he probably doesn't have enough support there
also big reluctance about getting into another boots on the ground entanglement in yet another sandbox, lots of americans really do not like that idea after seeing how afghanistan and iraq turned out
 
genuine question but what is stopping us from just going in there and purging iran of the IRGC entirely?
Essentially nothing, though the international community would "tisk tisk" us a bunch if we did.

But from a practical standpoint doing what you're suggesting would require a massive invasion, larger than Iraq, and would be wildly unpopular in the USA as well--maybe requiring a draft or something to get enough bodies.

There is also a good chance that despite taking out the IRGC such an invasion would create a whole new generation of militants who hate America because of all the suffering such an invasion would create for the locals.

I don't think it'd be possible to kill off all the IRGC with Seal Team 6 type ops. It'd take a major invasion.
 
genuine question but what is stopping us from just going in there and purging iran of the IRGC entirely? are we worried about china or russia joining in? i get that trump ideally would want to avoid a full blown forever war on the scale of iraq or afganistan especially due to midterms but it just seems strange that we went from taking out their guys left and right to now seemingly hitting a wall where it feels like nobody really knows how to proceed. iran will never agree to peace without a catch of some kind and our attacks have given them more than enough data to prepare better should we ever try this again. i could be wrong but this really feels like a moment where we should just rip the band-aid off already.
We've already purged the IRGC, we killed 50 of them the first night. What we have now are the B-team who don't know what the fuck they're doing because they're more ideologues than statesmen who have no clue on how to run a functioning state. Look at some of the Tasnim news I post, shit is going to get fucking dire in Iran fast if their propaganda news can't hide how the IRGC/Basij are running around seizing "hoarded" food. Rainfall is also down 40% this year and their main reservoir is half empty. By August, if not sooner, it's going to get spicy in Tehran.

Guys, it's all fine:
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