US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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The reality is if the Dems rallied around a hispanic male candidate who didnt come from Atlanta and made it clear he was going to clean the city up (not elections which they want the other half dozen ways its corrupt) they would win the Governship.

this is also true for state GOPs and it's very interesting and illuminating to contemplate why absolutely nobody does it
 
this is also true for state GOPs and it's very interesting and illuminating to contemplate why absolutely nobody does it
Republicans are terrified that if they say they're going to fix a problem, their libertarian voters will have meltdowns about big government, and their women voters will have meltdowns about being mean to brown people. This is what actually happened with Trump, but he more than made up for it with working class whites.
 
Republicans are terrified that if they say they're going to fix a problem, their libertarian voters will have meltdowns about big government, and their women voters will have meltdowns about being mean to brown people. This is what actually happened with Trump, but he more than made up for it with working class whites.

I think they're just old dumb boomers actually
 
A great many tents are propped up on the housing tentpole because of the myriad of demands that home construction and repair creates.
You can say the same about free money for niggers. Wow, look, when we give money to niggers, they spend it on stuff, and this results in businesses that exist to get that niggercash!

Wow!

Look at all that ECONOMY. Muh spending! Muh demand! Muh stimulus!

The "tentpole spending" argument is retarded because if you take away the government spending, the assets just get used for something else. The resources used to build Popeye's Chicken don't come into existence because the government spent money down on MLK Blvd. They just got directed there instead of somewhere useful, like a playground or a coffee shop.

If the government doesn't subsidize something, the physical assets just get used on other things. Zero net value is created by subsidies. There are strategic reasons to subsidize something, like not growing dependent on a hostile foreigner for a key resource, but it doesn't make you richer.

I agree with 99% of your post but do think you're a tad optimistic here. Economic recoveries from bubble pops have historically been both painful and lengthy.
Recoveries typically took 12-18 months before the government started intervening with interest rate manipulation. Crashes were sharp, and recoveries were quick. Now we're up to 10+ years to recover. Crashes are soft, but recoveries are slower and slower.

Also because too many members of the upper managerial class would face financial ruin and/or jail time. Can't have that.
That's what I meant by "political suicide." Plus, being seen as not doing anything will end you in a recession.
 
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You can say the same about free money for niggers.
Except after spending 200k+ on construction costs and labor to build a house you actually have something of tangible material worth to show for it at the end, unlike free money for niggers so they can eat popeyes.
Look at all that ECONOMY. Muh spending! Muh demand! Muh stimulus!
If you don't think satiating consumer demands is important in a consumption-driven economy then I don't think I can help you.
 
Except after spending 200k+ on construction costs and labor to build a house you actually have something of tangible material worth to show for it at the end

You think there aren't any buildings getting built as a result of welfare spending?

If you don't think satiating consumer demands is important in a consumption-driven economy then I don't think I can help you.

If you think the raw materials and labor used to acquire government money exist get summoned ex nihilo by the government and wouldn't get used more productively in the economy without subsidies, I don't know what to tell you.

Because that's what this argument always boils down to. You think the lumber, concrete, brick, etc consumed by the government to build houses didn't exist before a politician signed a bill. But they did exist. The only thing the government affects is where they get used, not whether they exist. So instead of a house getting built where the market demand really exists, the house gets built where the subsidy directs it, which is definitionally a less useful place.
 
You think there aren't any buildings getting built as a result of welfare spending?
Im just responding to the example YOU gave. Housing versus popeyes.
If you think the raw materials and labor used to acquire government money exist get summoned ex nihilo by the government and wouldn't get used more productively in the economy without subsidies, I don't know what to tell you.
What does efficiency matter if your people are homeless and their country sold out to foreigners from under them? The point of an economy is to provide goods and services to people, not to 'create value' purely for its own sake so that line can go up.

I'm guessing by the priorities you espouse that you're some kind of well-to-do stakeholder. Am I right?
 
Trump sparks backlash after claiming drug revived “dead” patients


Trump becoming the lich king was not on my bingocard this year
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Oh, come on.
“We’ve taken people that were dead,” Trump said. “We had a person given the last rites, gone, the kids are crying and everything, and started them on this drug. And the person became better. It works.”
It's just more "pretending not to understand things" or deliberate misinterpretation for the sake of outrage.
he likely exaggerated stories involving critically ill patients rather than individuals who were clinically dead.
>We know what he actually meant
>But that doesn't get clicks on my 1 paragraph screed

I hate niggers.
 
You know how I say Democrats NEVER get to talk about the VA or the military or vets ever? That if you hear them talking about how much you love them, you should immediately smack them in the mouth?

Shit like this is why.

Posting this on Memorial Day as a gotcha.

See, they'll wave the bloody shirt when it can hurt their enemies.
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They got so much pushback on this they deleted it. Not apologized, just deleted it.

This is why when a Dem starts talking about how much the Democrats love the military, vets, and the VA, feel free to knock some of their teeth out with a pipe wrench.
 
Im just responding to the example YOU gave. Housing versus popeyes.
Popeyes is a building. Food is useful.

What does efficiency matter if your people are homeless and their country sold out to foreigners from under them?
Do you seriously think everyone in America was homeless before the government started subsidizing mortgages in the middle of the 20th century?

The point of an economy is to provide goods and services to people
Do you seriously think there were no goods and services before the Federal Reserve was created?

I'm guessing by the priorities you espouse that you're some kind of well-to-do stakeholder. Am I right?
This guy disagrees with me. Can't possibly be that my arguments are bad and my principles are wrong. He must be a bourgeois capitalist. Perhaps he suffers from false consciousness.
 
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There seems to be a civil war between the state of New Hampshire and the Libertarian Party over who the real Libertarians are. Will the last stronghold of normal (for Libertarians) people hold out or will they succumb to the party of no borders and letting troons do whatever they want?
 
Do you seriously think everyone in America was homeless before the government started subsidizing mortgages in the middle of the 20th century?
No. Im also not interested in (((Subsidizing mortgages)))
Do you seriously think there were no goods and services before the Federal Reserve was created?
No, this also has nothing to do with FIAT currency. People do not live the way they did 150 years ago such that "Just let people build their own shacks and cabins" is a reasonable alternative.

For what it's worth I think if you kicked out enough of the illegal population that would probably deflate the housing market anyway but if we didn't have that option then it would still be sensible for us to build houses for our own people.
Popeyes is a building. Food is useful.
But you also made a big deal about resource allocation remember?

So tell me if you disagree that deprioritizing "Popeyes for niggers" and reallocating those resources toward building housing for responsible Americans (with jobs and in good standing with the law) would be a facially objectively better allocation of those resources.
 
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