💤 Inactive Andrew Dobson / Tom Preston / CattyN - STOP DOING SEXIST CRAP

[Jack MeHoff]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think Buckley might actually be a better artist at this point than Dobson. I mean it's not great but it's actually pretty decent, plus it looks like some actual effort went into it.

Buckley IS better, there's no question. I am not aware of who the guy is, but speaking purely from an art perspective: Buckley is better. He's taken the time over the years to practice his art AND to absorb criticism and learn from it. And just from the examples provided here, I don't see evidence of tracing in Buckley's comic, whereas with Dobbo's Star Trek one, it's beyond fucking obvious he traced everything, and failed even at that.

Dobbo hasn't learned a thing over the decade, and as everyone here already knows, he's regressed. High school art students have more talent and promise, and take criticism better.

*Edit: when I refer to the tracing, I refer to the frequency of it, and we all know Dobbo traces more than the entirity of DeviantfART

 

[MarineN*423543]

high school?, pfftt elementary kids take criticism better, considring that flopson wants to be a 8 year old forever

 

[Kamen Rider Black RX]

Anyone else read Whomp? Ronnie (the character) comes across as less pathetic than Dobson, and that's supposed to be his whole gag. Ronnie (the creator) manages to poke fun at his less desirable traits (weeb, fat, cowardly, awkward, weeb) to make a lovable character for his audience, whereas Dobson (trying to pass himself off as a cartoonist) rarely fully commits to making himself a loser in his comics. If anything, he never gets off his high horse to really have fun with himself.

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I should have worded that last line better.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Anyone else read Whomp? Ronnie (the character) comes across as less pathetic than Dobson, and that's supposed to be his whole gag. Ronnie (the creator) manages to poke fun at his less desirable traits (weeb, fat, cowardly, awkward, weeb) to make a lovable character for his audience, whereas Dobson (trying to pass himself off as a cartoonist) rarely fully commits to making himself a loser in his comics. If anything, he never gets off his high horse to really have fun with himself.

...

I should have worded that last line better.

Whomp is also highly relatable in its content from time to time. Everyone has had a moment where things got awkward in a certain way.
Even when Dobbo tries to make fun of himself, it just never really works out for various reasons. One of which is how unrelateable the situation or his reaction is, or how even in such times, Dobson still trie to sorta avoid looking dumb by making the other side of such a situation look extra dumb.

Basically:
Whomp: Here's a situation that gets awkward for Ronnie due to his behaviour.
SYAC: Here's a situation that gets awkward for Dobson due to the other guy being a dick.

 

[AnOminous]

SYAC: Here's a situation that gets awkward for Dobson due to the other guy being a dick.

Dobbo has the same problem as Guillaume in Assigned Tranny. Even the ridiculous caricatures he picks as strawmen come across as more rational than he does.

The best example of this is Carl the Straw Old Dude, who gives him good advice that he ignores. Carl is the only likable character in the entirety of Dobbo's oeuvre!

 

[Laoshi]

Whomp is proof that Dobson could be a successful cartoonist if he chose to.

It has the same concept as SYAC: a comic about the daily misadventures of a cartoonist who is lazy, fat, ugly, disgusting, has no friends, has social anxiety and weird psychological hang-ups... pretty much Dobson with hair.

Also the art style is absolutely within reach for Dobson's skill level, if he stopped tracing for a couple of days and practiced a little to fix some of his most offensive mistakes.

The difference is Ronnie Filyaw can laugh at himself, and that's what redeems his character from all his shortcomings, and makes him relatable, even likeable.

On the other hand we have Dobson, a guy unable to admit he has ever been wrong (he's still trying to get the last word in arguments he had with random people in internet forums... after literally decades!) He has to always portray himself as a perfect pure being who is the victim of this sinful world, and because of this he can never highlight his faults, even less make fun of them (unless these are faults that he thinks make him look good, like defending women too much).

Take this comic:

Why it has to be some made up strawman who says that? Dobson is well known to be a keyboard activist, so the comic could be him walking by himself past the homeless while tweeting about social justice. He could make fun of himself that way. Instead Dobson cannot resist making the comic about "ugh, other men, amirite?"

But paradoxically his obsession with looking "good" is what makes him look bad. Because if he had made the comic I described, we might laugh at the situation, but then we might be like "yeah, he's a lazy fuck, but I also could talk less and do more sometimes, I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite too", which is what makes a character relatable.

Instead, because of how he presented the idea, what the comic does is immediately beg the question: "And what have you done for the homeless exactly, Dobson? At least that guy is getting 10K reblogs, so his ideas are having some impact in the world. You do the same thing on twitter, but get 3 likes tops."

So at the end Dobson ends up looking more of a hypocrite than if he had made a comic highlighting his hypocrisy. And that's why he's so despicable.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Instead, because of how he presented the idea, what the comic does is immediately beg the question: "And what have you done for the homeless exactly, Dobson? At least that guy is getting 10K reblogs, so his ideas are having some impact in the world. You do the same thing on twitter, but get 3 likes tops."

There's also the detail that Dobson is clearly holding on to some overpriced coffee-shop cup. This could literally have been solved by seperating the homeless people from Dobson and this other guy. For instance have Dobson and StrawUghMan walk over a bridge and the bums stand underneath around a flaming barrel or something.
It would also convey the idea that sometimes, people are just unaware or ignorant of the plight of certain people despite claiming they are trying to help them through blog posts.

But with Dobson we have to take what we get. I am just surprised it's not a bunch of poor PoCs being chewed out by some white MisogyNerd-KKKmember, the face distorted by rage, who's yelling at the top of his lungs: "I don't have to give you money, I reblog stuff about homeless people every day!" with Dobson standing somewhere at the side, looking distraught and/or annoyed.

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

Instead, because of how he presented the idea, what the comic does is immediately beg the question: "And what have you done for the homeless exactly, Dobson? At least that guy is getting 10K reblogs, so his ideas are having some impact in the world. You do the same thing on twitter, but get 3 likes tops."

Hell, within the comic itself, Andrew is shown to not give a shit about the plight of the homeless. He's not giving them any of his money, hell, he didn't even give them his overpriced frozen sugar concoction. He's strolling by them just like the other guy is, but not even bothering to make a tweet about their plight. He condemns the other guy for doing practically nothing, while he does... nothing.

You're right, in the Whomp! version of this strip, it would be Ronnie smugly bragging about doing something for the homeless, while either completely ignoring them in front of him or becoming nervous/scared when one asked for money. In, say, the Questionable Content version, one of the Protagonist McMoraluprights would be giving the homeless money while pout-glaring at the oblivious asshole (who votes Republican and listens to radio music).

But I honestly doubt it even occurred to Andrew to enhance his virtue signaling by having his self-insert be actually doing something for the homeless during this. The idea of giving someone else his money purely to help them out is so far outside of his worldview that he just didn't even think of it. That's something other people need to be doing, or making the government do, not him. His selfishness and stinginess combined with arrogance is such an inherent and deeply-rooted part of his entire worldview that it simply never dawned on him that hey, maybe he looks like a dick in this for not doing anything either.

 

[Laoshi]

I am just surprised it's not a bunch of poor PoCs being chewed out by some white MisogyNerd-KKKmember, the face distorted by rage, who's yelling at the top of his lungs: "I don't have to give you money, I reblog stuff about homeless people every day!" with Dobson standing somewhere at the side, looking distraught and/or annoyed.

The comic is from a few years ago, though.

Nowadays we'd get something like this:

 

[Iä! Iä!]

And I'm sure if the homeless knew of your valiant effort of retweeting articles about homeless they would leave you a big fat LIKE.

 

[Silvana]

The comic is from a few years ago, though.

Nowadays we'd get something like this:

That's brilliant. And the shocking thing is, it took me a moment to realize it was a parody. Which gives you some idea just how far Dobson has fallen. Why, he'd probably consider that a perfectly acceptable strip - a homage, possibly, created in his own unmistakable style.

When satire becomes impossible, you know the situation's seriously bad.

 

[MarineN*423543]

*UGH men, so independent, so mature, their cis heads full of hair, how dare they have hard earned money, how dare they...marry woman*

 

[CowReserach Inc.]

Trump must win. The levels of twitter salt will never be reached again.

October 2016

I wonder if you realized what levels of salt that were going to be unleashed when you wrote this

 

[MarineN*423543]

i guess that was the point lol

 

[Von Clausewitz]

Whomp is proof that Dobson could be a successful cartoonist if he chose to.

It has the same concept as SYAC: a comic about the daily misadventures of a cartoonist who is lazy, fat, ugly, disgusting, has no friends, has social anxiety and weird psychological hang-ups... pretty much Dobson with hair.

Also the art style is absolutely within reach for Dobson's skill level, if he stopped tracing for a couple of days and practiced a little to fix some of his most offensive mistakes.

The difference is Ronnie Filyaw can laugh at himself, and that's what redeems his character from all his shortcomings, and makes him relatable, even likeable.

On the other hand we have Dobson, a guy unable to admit he has ever been wrong (he's still trying to get the last word in arguments he had with random people in internet forums... after literally decades!) He has to always portray himself as a perfect pure being who is the victim of this sinful world, and because of this he can never highlight his faults, even less make fun of them (unless these are faults that he thinks make him look good, like defending women too much).

Take this comic:

Why it has to be some made up strawman who says that? Dobson is well known to be a keyboard activist, so the comic could be him walking by himself past the homeless while tweeting about social justice. He could make fun of himself that way. Instead Dobson cannot resist making the comic about "ugh, other men, amirite?"

But paradoxically his obsession with looking "good" is what makes him look bad. Because if he had made the comic I described, we might laugh at the situation, but then we might be like "yeah, he's a lazy fuck, but I also could talk less and do more sometimes, I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite too", which is what makes a character relatable.

Instead, because of how he presented the idea, what the comic does is immediately beg the question: "And what have you done for the homeless exactly, Dobson? At least that guy is getting 10K reblogs, so his ideas are having some impact in the world. You do the same thing on twitter, but get 3 likes tops."

So at the end Dobson ends up looking more of a hypocrite than if he had made a comic highlighting his hypocrisy. And that's why he's so despicable.

There are actually two levels of hypocrisy to this thing, making it all around horrible.

The first is the inclusion of a character that looks like his old persona. Just photoshop him out of the image and the entire thing would be a lot better. I would even ponder, if it would then count as valid criticism of keyboard activists. But for that you have to ignore all the stuff we know about Dobson and assume that he indeed does some social or humanitarian work. Yeah I know, it's hard to imagine.

But no, Dobson had to add himself to this comic. He could have drawn a girl or another guy, padding his shoulder and saying something like: "Wow, this is awesome." to it, but, no, he had to light up the 'Virtue Signal' and add the message "By the way, I am better than those people." Of course, as we see, he even fails in making himself look good.

The second thing is, that you can argue that his comic is in itself the same thing Dobson criticizes, no matter if he added his persona or not. After all it is a comic posted on social media and can only have an impact if it is shared and liked a lot, so basically he is shitting on couch activists by being one himself, and failing.

 

[Emperor Julian]

lol just realized that chris' patreon is making more than Dobsons.

 

[MarineN*423543]

chris tries harder than dobson

The comic is from a few years ago, though.

Nowadays we'd get something like this:

also lesbianism, specially lesbianism, nothing but lesbianism

 

[Flowers For Sonichu]

I want to slit his throat open, fuck the open wound until he gags to death, bring him back to life and shit down his throat while he bleeds out. He is fat fucking balding furry degenerate filth and I would not have sex with him.

 

[Kabobs]

Crawling in my skin

And he's still defending laziness in art

 

[Flowers For Sonichu]

DOBSON MAKES ME SO FUCKING MAD THAT I PUNCHED A HOLE IN THE WALL AND KNOCKED OVER A PLATE OF TENDIES I HOPE THIS FUCKING SHITLORD HAS A KIDNEY STONE AND WHATEVER TYPE OF CANCER KILLS YOU THE SLOWEST AND MOST PAINFULLY