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Ok fine, lets totally get rid of it and have a randomized system entirely based on population. I'll tell you what, you won't like that outcome for sure.
Why not just do other methods, like independent groups and bipartisan groups draw the maps?

Besides, if Trump is so popular, why is he demanding red states gerrymander in a desperate attempt to keep the house?
 
Ok fine, lets totally get rid of it and have a randomized system entirely based on population. I'll tell you what, you won't like that outcome for sure.
Proportional representation? If 40% of the state votes for democrats, they get 40% of the seats.
 
Proportional representation? If 40% of the state votes for democrats, they get 40% of the seats.
Exactly how it should be done. Gerrymandering is bullshit and this gerrymandering slapfight, which was started by Trump, is retarded and going to end badly
 
Why not just do other methods, like independent groups and bipartisan groups draw the maps?

Besides, if Trump is so popular, why is he demanding red states gerrymander in a desperate attempt to keep the house?
Your side already gerrymaxxed, so you're just shouting how dare they fight back.
Now that the mandatory accusation is done.
The farest system I can think of would be to remove the concept of districts being tied to land and basically do a random selection of population and assign to each representive for each state. So, each rep has to represent all of the state's population. I could understand land based was decided eariler because you couldn't do population based with the tech present when the system was made.
 
Exactly how it should be done. Gerrymandering is bullshit and this gerrymandering slapfight, which was started by Trump, is retarded and going to end badly
However, this brings us another question, what if numbers don't match? Utah voted 40% democrat, yet they only have one democrat seat out of four. Would they get one or two seats, if we used proportional representation?
 
VA gerrymandering struck down by VA Supreme Court, Fagpacks getting packed with fags!

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Interesting, the reasoning is pretty sound imo but both sides would be having a hissy fit if they were on the losing side so whatever. Virgina Dems will just have to wait untill the next general election to get the map passed so it really only effects this midterm election, which i think is going to be a slaughter for Republicans anyway even with the new Southern gerrymandering. Perhaps the margins will be close enough that it will cause dem infighting in the house but Trump is so unpopular I doubt it will.
 
Younger generations are already 50% non-white.

Even if you lock the border down, future of this country is bleak.
Not necessarily. Victory can ALWAYS be snatched from the jaws of defeat.

All the non White youfs fucking HATE yt boomers. Imagine someone running on a platform of FUCK Boomers, Boomers are the root of all your problems, use Boomer wealth to pay off student debt.

Retard libs and niggafluencers would flock to that candidate, along with their brain rotted nigger loving mutt cattle audiences.

Imagine “A Vote for Me is a Vote for Revenge.”

From there it will be ‘cleaning house’.
 
Why not just do other methods, like independent groups and bipartisan groups draw the maps?

Besides, if Trump is so popular, why is he demanding red states gerrymander in a desperate attempt to keep the house?
Cause politics in this country is cutthroat and divided so 'both sides' want to take every advantage possible if they can get away with it. Obviously. I don't believe in 'bipartisan' cause that usually means a bunch of far left democrats and rinos/GOPe united to fuck over the Republicans. There's also no such thing as 'independent' anymore, things are too polarized. And probably always have been.

I'd actually rather do a prompt to Claude and other AIs and see what it spits out and go from there at this point.

And I seem to be agreeing in general with Hogan and others about 'proportional' only and randomized.
 
Younger generations are already 50% non-white.

Even if you lock the border down, future of this country is bleak.
White Plurality with the youngest flipping back to over 50% White. Non White TFR is in free fall currently. Hispanic is also a weird category.
 
The Dems would be doing even better if they were not soul less gremlins trying to burn my nation down so brown retards can rape people it’s glowing corpse.
They also ceded their popular positions to Trump. It’s funny to hear the old recordings of democrats in the 90s and early 00’s. Then juxtaposing that with their current year + 10 social media posts about Trump being racist for having those positions.
 
Restore does..

I swear i dont' get this stupid short sighted hate people have for the british. The government, sure, but the hate for the people there is dumb.

(Not you johnny, just more in general)
I don't hate them but I do think they're dipshits. They voted themselves into their current situation and now they want to cry about it?
 
They also ceded their popular positions to Trump. It’s funny to hear the old recordings of democrats in the 90s and early 00’s. Then juxtaposing that with their current year + 10 social media posts about Trump being racist for having those positions.
Watching Schumer, Hillary, and Pelosi and all going in unison we have to close the border and stop illegals is great. Remember when Hillary was against gay marriage too? 'Don't ask don't tell' all that. The democrats have no principles, they swing with the wind and entirely flip flop constantly and everyone forgets what they said a few years prior.
 
It's hilarious how you guys love gerrymandering so much. If Trump's so popular, why does he have to gerrymander to keep house control?
To maximize the odds and effects of winning & minimize those of losing, of course. Same reason multiple New England states (Connecticut, Massachusetts, Vermont, etc.) have had 30-40% of their populations voting Republican but precisely 0 Republican congressmen for decades. Being confident of victory is not a good reason to take it easy or to not try to squeeze as much as you can out of that victory, as Democratic political strategists clearly understood for the longest time and which their Republican counterparts are only barely beginning to catch up on.

Also racial gerrymandering (which was the sort imposed upon the Southern states by the courts for decades, situations like what led up to Louisiana v. Callais in the first place - it wasn't just a simple bout of political partisanship) is mega gay by default and it's great that it was struck down on principle. Being black (or any other race for that matter) shouldn't entitle you to extra political representation any more than it entitles you to a spot at Harvard or a high-paying do-nothing job you can't be fired from.
 
Your side already gerrymaxxed, so you're just shouting how dare they fight back.
Now that the mandatory accusation is done.
The farest system I can think of would be to remove the concept of districts being tied to land and basically do a random selection of population and assign to each representive for each state. So, each rep has to represent all of the state's population. I could understand land based was decided eariler because you couldn't do population based with the tech present when the system was made.
I know you're an uneducated, low IQ retard so reading is really hard for you, but as already stated to you multiple times, Ohio and North Carolina and Wisconsin gerrymandered before Illinois did. Hell, Ohio's supreme court ruled the maps unconstitutional and Ohio Republicans kept using the illegal maps anyway.

Besides, if your Dear Leader is as popular as you say he is, why does he need to unconstitutionally mid-decade gerrymander? Internal polls for your boomer political party must be really bad...
 
more possible Chicom Argentina drama
The Argentine Port Authority. ANPyN, which is responsible for the critical tender for a 25-year Hidrovia dredging and signalization concession on the Parana River, released its evaluation of the second stage of the bidding process.

After the many complaints that the tender appears to be tailor-made to favor a consortium by Jan De Nul -Servimagnus, the port authority appears to be in a position to potentially compromise Argentine President Javier Milei’s objectives of attracting serious US investments in the real economy.

The US consortium consists of Great Lakes, Clear Street, and KKR, together with Belgium-based dredging company DEME.


US intelligence groups have established that Servimagnus has extensive links to Chinese entities.
 
Exactly how it should be done. Gerrymandering is bullshit and this gerrymandering slapfight, which was started by Trump, is retarded and going to end badly
However, this brings us another question, what if numbers don't match? Utah voted 40% democrat, yet they only have one democrat seat out of four. Would they get one or two seats, if we used proportional representation?
White Plurality with the youngest flipping back to over 50% White. Non White TFR is in free fall currently. Hispanic is also a weird category.
"Whites now make up 50% of newborns, not 48%!"
 
Besides, if your Dear Leader is as popular as you say he is, why does he need to unconstitutionally mid-decade gerrymander? Internal polls for your boomer political party must be really bad...
That's really rich when you say that right after the news broke that VA's Supreme Court found theirs unconstitutional.
 
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