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Should be a wild four years.

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These are just local elections, not for HM Government. And since Britain is ruled absolutely by Parliament, won’t have much impact whatsoever. Still, points to a likely Labour loss in the next general, assuming one ever happens.
Labour knows they'll get curb stomped, they're going to try and delay it as much as possible.

I'm listening to BBC talking about the results right now, the Labour people talking about the results are talking about everything but immigration.
 
This is retarded and directly violates the trade act, it gives the president unilateral control to import temporary tariffs for 150 days up to 15%. There's no way this one holds up, the IEEPA ruling is at least understandable because the language does not say tariffs anywhere inside it, but the language for this one is clear. They were going to end in July due to the 150 day limit anyway.
Of course it's not going to hold up. The Supreme Court itself directly told him what could be used instead when they struck down the initial tarrifs.
 
Reform UK is the Farage fake based party, literally the party that acts like it will deport but if they win they will just go "ooops, sorry, can't do it." The pressure release valve, won't do anything meaningful but they are having to go right more because of Restore UK.
Funny, that is how many would describe the GOP.
 
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Unsurprising the kikespergs had to chime in. They can't read, so I should've known I was wasting my breath explaining that we have a strategic reserve for this and Biden and Obama did their best to fuck that up. But hey, it's not like Iran could've ever done this on their own! Keep sucking muzzie dick, boys.
At best, strategic reserves are a bandaid. Trump didn't have a plan. He's a fucking moron, and this is 100% on him.
 
Looks like Tennessee pulled off the map, removed every D District:
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Even includes a lib meltdown


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Those doofuses in Virginia sure aren't feeling smart now. For a hot second it looked like the local State Republicans were going to be the "better men" and not listen to the orange man about the importance of redistricting their States like Massachusetts, Connecticut and Illinois.

Well, the Virginia democrats sure did do a good job of focusing the minds. And now that the the Supreme Court has declared racial districts unconstitutional, quite a few southern states are now required to redistrict immediately. But this time there isn't the excuse of "lets take the high road", since the Democrats immediately took the low road before any of this had even shaken out. Oh well. Sucks to suck. Its rather ironic. Had the groundswell of native support against the national democratic parties redistricting of Virginia had succeeded, the entire issue of state wide redistricting could rightly have been pointed too as stupid. But the Democrats rammed it through, won with 1% of the vote, gerrymandered Virginia like a new england state, and now every other state in the south is going to do the same.

Just not for the Democrats though. Sorry, I meant, not along racial lines. There will be an equal amount of spics, jeets, heebs and niggers in every district in the south. They will all be equally distributed.
 
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The US only imports about 9% of its oil from the Middle East, of which only about 400k barrels a day passes through the strait (and that was in 2025, probably reduced this year, as it has since 2022). Saudi Arabia has pipelines that bypass the strait.

US imports 6.4 million barrels per day (and produce about 13.6 million domestically), mostly from Canada.
That doesn't matter. Oil is a global commodity. It's priced based on the global supply/demand. Jesus christ you people are dumb as fuck.

I guess you and Tucker Qatarlson
100% kike. No one who's not a kike would actually move forward with the DOA "qatar" meme. Even the "panickan" meme was less forced and kike-coded.

If you can make 1 reasonable point why we're losing I will concede.
The strait has been closed for over a month, with horrible consequences domestically, and Trump can't do shit to stop it.

Guess you concede.
 
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Who cares? 12,000 British people are arrested per year for mean posts online and none of the parties promise to end this.
Restore does..

I swear i dont' get this stupid short sighted hate people have for the british. The government, sure, but the hate for the people there is dumb.

(Not you johnny, just more in general)
 
Get ready for COVID 2: Electric Boogaloo, fellas. They're already trying to start. With the redistricting ruling coming down like a hammer, the media is going to try like hell to scare the rest of us into staying home. The media is trying to push this "Hantavirus" shit like it's more than it is.
 
To change that we either have to start drilling more, or take over some oil rich country ~cough~Venezuela~cough~ and just force them to sell exclusively to us to cut them out of the global market dynamics.

Or we can do my idea of just building an assload of nuclear plants and putting them to work turning seawater into diesel and gasoline. With current tech and enough nuclear plants, we can probably push the price down to $3.50 a gallon.
This reminds me of the end of Dr. Strangelove, where they're talking about building underground bunkers when the nukes are already on the way. Yeah, that'd be a pretty good plan, except now we're all fucked because there's no way the oil can get to where it needs to go in time for everyone not to get severely fucked in the ass, and nuclear plants take half a decade to build at best (after they're approved if ever, which in any case takes somewhere between years and never).

The problem with having an orange retard who owes his freedom and his Presidency to kikes leading your nation is that he just goes out and wrecks the global economy without having any plan for what comes next.
 
Not orbital solar, Lunar solar.

You build a robotic manufacturing hub on the moon to mine regolith material and turn it into glass (and other things), then you just ship up perovskite ink to spray on the glass panels and you now have solar panels.

1kg perovskite for every 400 square meters of solar panels. So almost all of the panel is sourced locally on the moon, saving a fortune in payload launches. And the large mass of the moon means we can dump heat into the lunar soil instead of our panels sitting in space, requiring huge radiators to prevent overheating.

The moon gets 14 days of sunlight and 14 days of darkness. Build the solar farm on the poles and we can lift the panels to get 24/7 constant sunlight, at around 200 watts per square meter.

Human race currently uses roughly 18 Terawatts. Due to inefficiencies, we'd need enough panels to generate around 35-40TW to fully power the Earth. That's an area of solar panels roughly equal to Syria.

450 tons of perovskite is enough to make that many solar panels. That's about 3-5 Starship launches worth of payload, or about 15-20 Artemis SLS rockets.
None of this will even begin to be possible without dismantling and permanently destroying Mexico, India, and Israel. Africa also has to be isolated and destroyed.
 
I can't keep up with UK parties. Reform is the based anti immigrant one right?
Reform are the Teal Tories. Restore are the dissident mass deportations party, led by Rupert Lowe, an MP who got kicked out of Reform for being too based.

Edit: meant "kicked out of Reform" instead of "kicked out of "Restore"
 
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It's a voter education program, really. It's time to stop jumping halfway across the chasm.

It's not, you're assuming these people will learn. There's been lots of little headaches that broke the conditioning for a lot of people. The whole troons thing and their obsession with child mutilation was a big one for a lot of people, especially parents. The COVID/Biden years combo were basically the final litmus test. If someone was still a devoted Democrat after that stuff, nothing will shake them free of their delusions. Enough people have experienced the direct consequences of the Democrats that the only groups remaining are:
  • "true believers" that have been finely distilled from several dozen purity tests
  • actual enemies of our country
  • psychotic retards that hate the US and White people
  • morally absent that exploit the problems caused by the Democrats for their own benefit

Absolutely none of these people are going to change voting patterns. The first group are so deeply deluded that nothing will shake them out of it at this point, a lot of them are hippie boomers that have no intention of admitting they were ever wrong. The second and third group already know what's going on and they like it.

The fourth group are your tech bros firing tons of Americans and then crying to the US Government to let them ship a gorillion more jeets over because they're cheaper. It's the same group that claims they're some honest hardworking American small business that is being hurt by Trump's policies and leaves out its because their illegal alien slaves are being taken away. These are the bright minds that tried to scalp people for toilet paper and hand soap at the start of COVID. Even the people in this group that aren't racially Indian are undeniably spiritually Indian.
 
The thing to me is the Fermi paradox situation is getting awfully hard to explain the better we can see out there. Been pretty certainly no radio signals, that's ok, radio is not a great long range transmitter really. We're just starting to be able to graze exoplanet atmospheres. If we don't find at least some signs of bacterial life within measure in that range in 100 years that's a major issue. It's already a really big issue that we can't detect bio sigs of any kind at all with IR sigs at nearly end of obseerable univerise scale. Some like Sabine are saying RF radio would be so quaint now it would only be some kind of quantum level subspace coms. Well...
Look at Earth itself. Of all the countless species on Earth, only one, the primate, evolved into a form capable of technology more advanced than "bashing two rocks together." There had been plenty of time to get there And among all the tribes of humans, the vast majority never made it past pointy sticks & mud huts. Even among the civilizations, only one invented the radio. If it hadn't been for the white man, we'd most likely still be stuck in the Iron Age. The typical evolutionary pathway is "get better at finding and eating stuff;" man is extraordinary.
 
Not sure if anyone here has talked about this, but what are we thinking about the news that the Saudis have betrayed us?

Last I heard the Prince was BEGGING us not to do a ceasefire and imo this seems like he wants us to keep America in place as long as possible.

Others are thinking that this is the Saudis being angery at us and asking us to wrap this war up so that they could start selling as well.

What do you think?


Trump shelved ‘Project Freedom’ after Saudis refused use of bases and airspace​

Riyadh told White House it would deny access for operation to provide tankers military escort through strait of Hormuz

A refusal by Saudi Arabia to allow the US to use its bases and airspace to provide a military escort for oil tankers passing through the strait of Hormuz lay behind Donald Trump’s decision to shelve the plan days after it had been launched.

Riyadh told the White House it would not allow its Prince Sultan airbase to be used to mount the operation billed as Project Freedom, which the US presented as the successor to the bombing campaign called Operation Epic Fury.


Saudi Arabia refused to drop its objections despite a personal call between the crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, and Trump, NBC reported.

Prince Mohammed meeting Trump in Washington last November. Photograph: Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images
The confrontation – not denied by Riyadh – underlines Saudi Arabia’s desire for a permanent end to the damaging US-Israel war on Iran on almost any terms, in contrast to its more assertive Gulf neighbour, the United Arab Emirates.

In a sign of the Emirates’ frustration with Riyadh’s caution, the UAE has already quit the Saudi-dominated oil producers’ club, Opec, and is now considering leaving the Arab League as well.

The UAE as a signatory to the Abraham accords has long been closer to Israel, but the tensions within the Gulf have widened as the war has dragged on, causing untold damage to their economies and international image.

The Emirates are furious that they have been the biggest target for Iran’s attacks, and felt there was insufficient solidarity across the Gulf.

Saudi Arabia also feared Project Freedom did not have clear terms of engagement and could turn into a risky naval confrontation between Iran and the US, marking the effective end of the ceasefire that had been in partial force since 7 April. Iran had explicitly said it would treat the US military escort of oil tankers or attacks on Iranian shipping as a ceasefire breaches, exposing Gulf states to further attack.

An end to the ceasefire would not only result in a naval conflict in the strait, but also Tehran resuming its damaging drone and missile attacks on US bases in the Gulf and energy installations in the region. Those attacks have probably caused more damage to Gulf infrastructure than previously reported.

The Saudi intervention will also be seen as a late expression of Riyadh’s lack of confidence in how Trump has handled the conflict. Riyadh was often left looking like an aggrieved but powerless victim of a conflict it had never advocated. It was neither impressed by the degree of protection the US provided from Iranian attacks or the coherence of White House strategy.

A satellite image shows planes at Prince Sultan airbase in Saudi Arabia. Photograph: 2026 Planet Labs PBC/Reuters
One Saudi diplomat said it was obvious for a long time the US had landed itself in a conflict which it could neither escalate or exit.

There had been surprise on Tuesday when, after spending two days building up the significance of Project Freedom, Trump posted a message reversing course. He claimed the operation was being halted for a short period of time by mutual agreement because great progress had been made towards a deal with Iran, partly due to the intervention of China. He said the suspension would allow time to see whether an agreement could be reached.

Trump made no reference to Saudi objections, or to the denial of airspace. His surprise decision had also undercut a day of heavy messaging by the US secretary of state, Marco Rubio, the defence secretary, Pete Hegseth, and the chair of the joint chiefs of staff, Gen Dan Caine – all of whom had said the operation would finally guarantee freedom of navigation for the hundreds of ships stranded in the strait. The plan had been for the US blockade of Iranian ports to continue.

Saudi Arabia may have also been concerned that Project Freedom would lead to the Houthis in Yemen getting involved. Riyadh has been working hard behind the scenes to keep the the armed political and religious group out of conflict. Closure of the Red Sea route through Houthi interventions would only make the threat to essential oil supplies worldwide even worse. The Saudis had reached an agreement with Iran that safeguarded their pipeline to Yanbu, ensuring they could export as much as 50% of their output via the Red Sea.

The Emirates by contrast had been much bolder than Riyadh in trying to get their oil tankers past the Iran blockade, often turning off their transponders in the hope of not being tracked.

Riyadh’s intervention, which has reduced Trump’s options to break the blockade, is likely to prompt a further deterioration in Saudi-Emirati relations

Riyadh was already concerned that the deepening UAE-Israel ties could extend to a small number of Israeli troops operating on Emirati soil. Saudi Arabia, with a much larger population, has to tread more carefully over Israel. With France, it had led effort to revive the concept of a two-state solution in which a Palestinian state was recognised internationally.

Saudi Arabia has separate points of dispute with the Emirates in Yemen, Somalia and Sudan. None of those will be made easier if the US has to settle with Iran on terms the Emirates and Israel believe fail the minimal objectives of Tehran’s critics.

 
I swear i dont' get this stupid short sighted hate people have for the british. The government, sure, but the hate for the people there is dumb.
The people in the home islands gave away their patrimony. It was not theirs to give away. It belongs to their children. Including us. Who are their children. In America.

To understand the contempt Americans hold for the modern British is to understand what the modern Americans think of themselves. Modern Americans think of themselves as a part of western civilization and our nation as an extension of Britain. Scottish, Irish, Welsh and English heritage societies are huge in the USA. The US Armies ceremonial regiment, the 1st Infantry Regiment still dresses in the uniform of the first British Empire.

Let me repeat this. The 3rd infantry Regiment of the United States Army dresses in the red coat for formal appearance. Incidentally, the 3rd infantry regiment (other then the band) is not for show. Every single member of that unit is picked for being a hard core mother fucker. The Sentinels of the Tomb are part of the 3rd infantry. The 3rd Infantry is also the QRF for the Pentagon and the White House. Its a tour of duty a senior NCO can do instead of being a recruiter or a drill sergeant. And being given the position is a rare honor.

And they wear red coats.

For example.




The growing rage towards His Majesties Government, King Charles of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and North Ireland is not coming from some 1776 spirit. Its coming from a fundamental sense that the sacred homeland of our people is being defiled. Worse, its being defiled by the infidel Muslims, a heretical religion the American people have been at war with for almost half a century. A religion that is not a facet of our historical past but a facet of our immediate present. A people who have attacked us in our lands, killed our sons and daughters on the field of battle, and proclaims their moral certitude in the destruction of our nation. And our progrenitor nation, Great Britain, welcomes our enemies into the homeland of our sires. And says we are racists and islamophobes for getting upset about it!

The American Peoples anger towards the British is multifaceted and complex. But at its core, our anger towards the British is because we believe the British have dishonored themselves and by extension, dishonored us. They betrayed the first principles during the revolution by denying us seats in Parliament, and not giving patents of nobility to the American Aristocrats. All such things that could be water under the bridge with two centuries of time. But what cannot be forgiven is surrendering the homeland of our people and the graves of our great-great grandfathers and mothers to the muhammedans and their heretical faith. A faith we Americans are at war with.

How fucking DARE you. The bones of our ancestors are not yours to bargain away to the enemies of God.

That is why the Americans are growing increasingly spiteful towards the British. And not in the "haha we won at Yorktown" level of banter.
 
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