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"If I don't get the gender affirming care I need or everyone else doesn't respect my new identity, I will be miserable and kill myself"
Counterpoint to their argument: Other people are not and I emphasize a strong NOT responsible for your mental health. No one else is responsible for any other mental health condition, why just this one?
You are clearly insane and have presented a desire to harm yourself and others. Given the already existing legal framework in some states to involuntarily commit an individual going through such a mental breakdown “5150”, we are going to detain you until it has been determined you are no longer psychotic and/or a threat to yourself and others.
1. If you contend that trans people have always existed, but gender-affirming care is a recent development, it stands to reason that it is not a necessity.
2. No one is required to respect anyone else. That's the way the rest of us live, so maybe ask us how we do it before you demand special gimme.
3. That's on you. Just remember: along the tracks, not across.
I think it would be a good idea to make a general thread on any psychoanalysis, random observations, comments, or thoughts had pertaining to things that make a trans trans, or why trans people choose to do something, or why something is pervasive in the culture, and other topics like that.
Discuss at your leisure. Bring up topics you see discussed often, sometimes, or never. Say the exact same thing someone else said, who cares, it's casual navel gazing Friday every day in this thread.
Here's my thought: why do so many trans people make their online handle their new true chosen...
All memes aside, the recent studies on trannies show that the exact opposite - troons who get mutilated become even more depressed and suicidal than they already were as the years pass by.
Overall, threatening to kill yourself if X does not happen is very silly, if I demanded to be given a billion dollars right now or else I would kill myself, people would rightfully just call me out as mentally ill and not treat these threats seriously. Even if I did actually an hero at that spot, I doubt it would be hailed as a great argument for dumping tons of cash on suicidal people.
Overall, threatening to kill yourself if X does not happen is very silly, if I demanded to be given a billion dollars right now or else I would kill myself, people would rightfully just call me out as mentally ill and not treat these threats seriously.
I do not consider myself as anti-trans in any way, but that is probably the worst thing you could do. It is obvious that you cant force others to call you what you want. This attitude is also inherently socialistic as well. It implies some State action to make this "gender affirming care" accessible.
This is also a effect of Leftist culture, frailty and weakness being worshipped. The simplest thing to do is to say, "Bitch, I dont have to do shit. And if you cant respect that, grow a fucking backbone." That is what I wish that the trans person does.
There is only one counterpoint needed, and you can make plenty of them, but again only one is needed:
No one is responsible for another person's suicide outside of extremely egregious circumstances
No, being a tranny getting dead named is not said "egregious circumstance" I'm talking black mailing someone to kill themselves or else you will kill their children or something (See: What happened to Rommel)
There may be a few other cases like telling someone mentally ill to kill themselves...I guess telling a schizo "why yes that is infact actually a solid floor and not a fifty foot drop" would count.
Also its literally not true. Plenty of trannies that live in complete echo chambers, surrounded by other freaks and leftists, in blue cities, who get their delusion accommodated day after day still kill themselves at much much higher rates than the general population. If deadnaming and bullying was the true cause of the 41% you would see a massive drop in suicide once troons get the chop and their ID sex changed....except you don't.
Also its just fucking stupid. If we as a society start letting people dictate things like laws based on "I will kill myself if you don't" then where will that end? Why not give the incels a government-mandated GF or else they might kill themselves? If your BPD GF threatens to off herself for breaking up with her....well bucko guess you're stuck for life. I mean she's probably lying, but what if shes not?
To be honest, this tranny "argument" doesn't even need counterpoints because its that fucking stupid. If anything the retards coddling troons are more responsible for troon suicides since they're playing into the delusions of the mentally ill.
Point 1) changing the name of a "sex change operation" to "gender affirming care" isn't a magic spell that transforms a conversion therapy into anything other than what it is. You want a sex change? Change means conversion. You want an operation or an hormonal prescription? Those are therapies. (What you call) "Gender affirming care" is (really) gender conversion therapy.
Point 2) related to point one, "affirming you in your authentic gender", doesn't magically transform into "conversion therapy" when you utter magic words. (What you call) "Conversion therapy" is (really) gender affirmation.
Point 3) you are miserable and will kill yourself because you are enslaved to your desires and are ruminating about them. Instead of using your intelligence to discern the difference between right and wrong, you're using it to come up with excuses to be wrong. Just because your particular desires are to be (or at least to be treated as) the opposite sex, is not a magical talisman that makes them any different from anyone else's desires; you need to stop ruminating on things that you want but cannot have. I desire to have a million dollars, but robbing a bank or threatening to kill myself if you don't hand over the cash are still WRONG.
Point 4) let's pretend that I'm incorrect in the points above and you're correct that a sex change is the right thing for you; I can entertain the notion for the moment. Okay, you've changed sex. But now someone isn't "respecting your new identity". Whose fault is that? It's yours. You don't "pass". That means you fail. Respecting a failure would be disrespecting the person who failed. Your teacher gave you an F on your school exams when you deserved an F, so that you could learn to do better; this is the same thing. This is your "real life test". If you want to pass, if you want to be treated as the opposite sex, then you have to succesfully operate as the opposite sex. If you put in A-level work, you'll get A-level results.
Point 5) related to point four, the work required to pass is going to be exhausting. You have to live a lie 24/7. If you say that it's not living a lie but instead is being your authentic self, then see points one and two again. You might be able to keep this up for a day, maybe a year, maybe 18 years, even; but you cannot keep this up forever.
Point 6) Even if you could maintain the charade forever, no amount of hormones or surgeries (or even science fiction fantasy solutions) will ever be enough. See point three: you are addicted to your appetite. See point four: even if you successfully trick everyone else in the world, you'll never successfully trick yourself. "Transition" has no endpoint. You are in a permanant state of restlessness until (and unless) you learn to accept your place in the universe.
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