Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

I predict this war will end in a stalemate with the Islamic Regime severely weakened but retaining control over Iran. I'd like to see them toppled, but the Trump admin is a clownshow that's neither willing nor competent enough to actually pull it off. Iran might be thrashing around like a self-destructive retard, but the developed world nowadays is completely averse to fighting, let alone winning wars. Israel and the gulf states will be forced to sign a few gay deals, and then Trump will declare victory - without denuclearization or any of the other objectives being achieved. The pre-war status quo will return until hostilities resume again years down the line. In the meantime, diaspora Iranians will continue screeching at the high heavens and posting emotional AI slop about the monarchy's inevitable return or something. It's a depressing situation, and I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
As I keep telling people:
Wait until September before crowing about the IRGC's survival. Even if Trump just said "fuck this. we out" right now and just left everything as is and the Jews did the same, Iran is going to have a hot, dry summer to try to keep control of its population through.

That said, I do think you're right - as things stand they still come out of the summer in control. But it'll be a bumpy, fraught summer.

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Hegseth: "No, the ceasefire is not over." Bridge and Power Plant Day is CANCELLED. TACO yet again! I'm so angry at him that I'm voting for a Democrat next election like the gay catboy spic told me to!!!!
Goddammit.

So Trump says its not a violation of the ceasefire unless Iran manages to actually hit us. He is mogging them into peace as they try to swing by him like a petulant child. This is sorta funny but I was hopping we would bomb them more. Perhaps we have moved on to the keep fucking with them while technically not fighting them stage.
Like I said yesterday, its technically correct and Iran did rules lawyer their way through it.

I expect Trump to change his mind about this being a violation and/or the US commitments to defending the UAE on Friday around 5:30pm EST. (market closes 4:30 but you need to factor in extended trading)

Trump says there are plans to arm the Iranian people after the first batch was stolen. Not sure what his timeline is on that, but I guess it's one of those things you want to keep vague.
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I'm 96% sure this is kayfabe designed to keep the IRGC watching their backs.
There is almost no chance the US is going to announce weapon deliveries to a country's civilians if we're actually doing it, as if its true it would justify the regime going full safeties off on the next large protest. My take is that Trump is trying to get the already paranoid and violent regime wound up so the next big protest in Iran turns into a blood bath that not even the Chinese can handwave.

Hell, I am surprised Trump just hasn't starting naming Random (surviving) IRGC officers and saying "Thank you for the productive dialog about peace" and just wait for the IRGC to start self-strategic martyring each other.

But I could be wrong, nothing in the described chain of events is far-fetched, its all complelely believable.

What does Europe actually... do? Is there anything they meaningfully contribute to the world other than outdated platitudes?
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"You actions are unacceptable but other than calling them unacceptable we will take no further action and continue to call for peacetalks that leave you incharge so you can keep doing unhinged shit like this"
Fucking Euroserfs.

Don't forget sitting around thinking how much better they are than everyone else with their free social degree because they've had 60 years of having to pay basically nothing in defense to keep existing after getting bailed out of WW2.
And don't forget letting muslims rape and murder them and their children.

Waving the Islamic Iranian Flag or Palestinian flag? That's just part and parcel of free speech in a modern country.
Flying the St. George/Union Jack? Oi there m8. That's a hate crime making immigrants feel unwelcome there, bruv. You got your flag loisence?

My Iranian friends said they wish the Kurds a million missiles now.
As in they want the Kurds to be on the recieving end?

Trump is saying that because he wants to frame any new bombing, and other action, as an entirely new operation that resets the 60 day War Powers clock. It's why Hegseth says, in Mr. Racewar's" attached video that it's a "separate and distinct project."
That's another thing to consider but I feel like that's Trump getting a benefit from something he's already doing as opposed something he planned.

Or to sharpen focus a bit more:
Trump always intended to reduce strikes during market hours, and to paint Iran as the unhinged aggressor that can't be allowed to persist.
Him trying to use that to break the action into different parts to dodge the WPA is just a spin on somethign he intended to do anyway.

I think Iran is chimping out at the UAE the most because they are the ones breaking away from the pack the most and moving squarely into the pro-US and even moderately cooperative with Israel camp.

Even if they can't do much to the UAE, the US sitting back and letting Iran do it could in theory potentially maybe drive a wedge between the UAE and new partners.

Of course it could also backfire spectacularly.
They are hitting the UAE because they can. Hitting Bahrain and Qatar is counter productive with their Shia populations and the fact they are stuck inside the Gulf.

Hitting Oman not only turns Oman against them, but is outside of Iran's effective capabilites currently. UAE is in range, and able to bypass the Straight of Homoz.

Just you wait! President Pez is gonna give them such a finger-wagging!

Drumpf really thought that killing the leadership would get them to immediately fold like Venezuela, but he forgot that while nobody in power is willing to die for Communism, Iran is ran by a religious death cult that doesn't care if you kill them because they go to heaven either way.
Trump hoped killing the leadership would make them fold. You don't bring the massive ammount of equipment the US did to the region if your plan was "ack one pedophile & his cabal".

I don't know if I'd go that far, I'd wager Trump thought this would end faster than it has, but it's nice to see a strategy beyond constant soldier meat grinder.
Again, Trump HOPED it woudn't, but you don't move that much hardware for what you think is going to be a quickie. The biggest sign things haven't unfolded to plan is that the Boxer and Tripoli weren't already in theater, but they were on station after TWO MORE WEEKS.

again to spell that out a little better:
Trump sits down with his generals and outlines the collaboration with the Jews. He gets military assessments about how much airpower we would need to stomp Iran to certain level in a certain time frame four to six weeks. The inpracticality to infeasibility of ground operations in Iran without a draft or half the planet's militaries being onboard is floated, as is the 'threat posturing' of just taking Iran's gulf islands. Its recommended we don't have the Marines stuck on ships for four to six weeks, especially if they aren't needed, and given there are 3 MEUs that could be brough to theater within weeks, its decided to not bring them to build up and wait till its more likely they are needed - which is what time it is now.

I am assuming Trump is waiting for something, but I have no idea what that could be.

Trump has got to find a new way to phrase his "No Navy, no Air Force" line.
He's not wrong, but it gets monotonous after the fiftieth time lol.
Agreed. It also makes it hard to explain how a country with no navy can close the strait to normies.
Anyone in this thread with an IQ over room temperature understands that its all land-based attacks with the fear of speedboats, but for nomries they just think "water = Navy".

Pretty much. It feels like the UAE is a punching bag because Iran probably could surmise, correctly I might add, that a USS Cole style attack that sinks a destroyer and kills a hundred or so Americans would be suicidal.

If a situation like this were to transpire, Iran would be lucky if only the bridge power plant attack plan was executed. It would give the US the casus belli they would need to escalate the response. Shooting at warships from ineffective speedboats and launching missiles at the UAE is just a minor annoyance.
I genuinely disbelieve they can achieve it.
This is condense to hell but:

The USS Cole's effect on ship design cannot be over stated. The risk was already known and ship designs were being updated to account for the possibility, but the Cole attack put all that into laser focus. Ships got not only better sensors, but also with better weapons stations designed to allow shooting of small craft. It is not just the USN who took this lesson to heart, every navy and ship yard/design firm applied lessons.

Without turning this into offtopic:
You can look at Russian losses in the Black Sea. Ukraine has used USVs, basically remote-operated speed boats, to sink or otherwise put out of commission a good portion of Russia's fleet in the black sea. But when you look at what their USVs are hitting, with two exceptions (an intelligence ship and a a frigate) its all been warships that were laid down when the USSR was still "a thing". All their post-2000 warships have been able to avoid getting USV'd because there are no
There have been strikes on more modern warships, but its been missiles and drones, usually when they are in port.

(point of order: there have been some attacks in Russian harbors by what is suspected to be submersible drones, but those aren't speed boat types)

How was EA this BASED???
EA wasn't. Westwood Studios was, and they were still a quasi-independent entity inside EA at the time of Generals.
 
Houthis are disrupting the Red Sea, farmers are running out of fertilizer, famines are underway,
the us is relatively sheltered from fertilizer shortages but the prices are doubling, almost tripling for most line items. most of the world gets their shit through the strait and are now buying the shit from the US, which fucks our farmers. i would be for an export control but i don't know if that'll have it's own knock on effect that'll make things worse. For example, we keep domestic supplies of fertilizer for our farmers and sell the world the food grown. but that'll lead to a permanent US aid situation.

as for the red sea, that's the purview of Europe and they refuse to do anything because they can't anger their muslims. the most they're willing to do is nearly nothing, a handful of escort missions in a declining shipping lane.
 
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IRGC Navy:
Repeated warning: We warn all vessels intending to pass through the strait; the only safe route for passing through the Strait of Hormuz is the corridor previously announced by Iran, and deviation of vessels to other routes is unsafe and will be met with a decisive response from the IRGC Navy.

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Iran’s IRGC-Navy Commander’s warning to all vessels:
Yesterday, the US terrorist army dangerously disrupted maritime security in the region, endangering navigation safety in the Strait of Hormoz & damaged commercial vessels, oil tankers, and fishing boats in the area.

Therefore, we warn all vessels in the Persian Gulf & the Sea of Oman intending to pass through the Strait of Hormuz: The ONLY safe route for crossing the Strait of Hormoz is the corridor previously announced by I.R. Iran.

Deviation of vessels to other routes is unsafe and will be met with decisive action by the IRGC-Navy.
Why do they keep calling our Navy the army? Are they trolling the squiddies at this point?
 
As I keep telling people:
Wait until September before crowing about the IRGC's survival. Even if Trump just said "fuck this. we out" right now and just left everything as is and the Jews did the same, Iran is going to have a hot, dry summer to try to keep control of its population through.

That said, I do think you're right - as things stand they still come out of the summer in control. But it'll be a bumpy, fraught summer.
I still haven't learned why we would have started the war in the first place if climate change and water scarcity was going to bring the Iranian nation down very soon (this very summer as you predict) anyway, we would have completed all of our objectives concerning the threat Iran poses (nuclear program, backing of proxies, and now the blocking of Hormuz) without having to deal with higher energy prices and disruptions, and the billions of dollars worth of military hardware spent.

You're the only person I know who has this very specific belief, I don't even hear anything like this from the Trump administration (or any other commentators on the situation), whose latest strategy is to strangle Iran's finances into a surrender of all of their geopolitical ambitions.
 
I still haven't learned why we would have started the war in the first place if climate change and water scarcity was going to bring the Iranian nation down very soon (this very summer as you predict) anyway, we would have completed all of our objectives concerning the threat Iran poses (nuclear program, backing of proxies, and now the blocking of Hormuz) without having to deal with higher energy prices and disruptions, and the billions of dollars worth of military hardware spent.
If your advesary is stumbling, it never hurts to give them a push. Especially before the next Obama or Eurocuck gives them a lifeline.

Maybe read up on the actual situation instead of requiring retarded influences, Journoscum, or turdworld telegram jeets to tell you what to think.
 
Deviation of vessels to other routes is unsafe and will be met with decisive action by the IRGC-Navy.
What is this battered wife shit?
"The evil Americans made things unsafe by forcing us to attack you."
Only Europeans would fall for that kind of line.

Meanwhile, DOW published an article on Project Freedom.
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'Project Freedom' Aims to Get Thousands of Commercial Ships Safely Through Strait of Hormuz

Iran has blocked safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf for commercial cargo and tanker vessels, trapping thousands inside the gulf and halting the free flow of commerce in the region.
Project Freedom is meant to reopen the strait to commercial vessels, said Secretary of War Pete Hegseth during a briefing today at the Pentagon. It is also independent of Operation Epic Fury, which for now is in a ceasefire.
"President [Donald J.] Trump has directed U.S. Central Command to restart the free flow of commerce through the Strait of Hormuz under the umbrella of Project Freedom," Hegseth said. "Project Freedom is defensive in nature, focused in scope, temporary in duration [and] with one mission: protecting innocent commercial shipping from Iranian aggression."
The secretary said as part of Project Freedom, American forces won't need to enter Iranian waters or airspace; but also, that Iran can no longer be allowed to stymie international commerce.
"Iran ... cannot be allowed to block innocent countries and their goods from an international waterway," Hegseth said. "Iran is the clear aggressor, harassing civilian vessels, threatening mariners from every nation indiscriminately and weaponizing a critical choke point for its own financial benefit."
Already, Hegseth said, two U.S. commercial ships, along with American destroyers, have traversed the strait, proving that Iranian control of the strait is an illusion.
"We know the Iranians are embarrassed by this fact," he said. "They said they control the strait — they do not. So, American ships led the way, commercial and military, shouldering the initial risk from the front — as Americans always do. Right now, hundreds more ships from nations around the world are lining up to transit."
The secretary said Centcom and partner nations are working with ships, shipping companies and insurers to let them know it's safe to move out of the gulf.
"All of these ships from all around the world want to get out of the Iranian trap that they have been stuck inside," he said.
Air Force Gen. Dan Caine, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said right now, there are more than 1,500 vessels with about 22,500 mariners trapped inside the gulf.
"Over the past seven weeks, Iran has repeatedly threatened and attacked commercial shipping in the strait in order to effectively cut off commercial traffic and damage the global economy," Caine said. "By obstructing one of the world's most critical maritime checkpoints, a vital transit route for approximately one-fifth of the global oil consumption, Iran is weaponizing the global supply chain."
Now, Caine said, Centcom is executing Project Freedom to open the strait up to commercial traffic.
"Project Freedom is designed to protect commercial shipping and help restore the flow of commerce through the strait and sustain freedom of navigation," he said. "Centcom has established an enhanced security area on the southern side of the strait that is now protected by U.S. land, naval and air assets to help defeat further Iranian aggression against commercial shipping."
Caine said Centcom is using guided missile destroyers and other warships to detect and defeat Iranian threats, including fast boats and one-way attack drones. He said right now, the threat from those fast boats includes rifles and small machine-gun fire.
In the air over the gulf, Caine said, are more than 100 fighters, attack aircraft and other manned and unmanned aircraft, all synchronized by the 82nd Airborne Division.
"[They] are in the air 24 hours a day, providing defensive overwatch for the enhanced security area and its approaches," he said.
Making the gulf safe for commercial vessels, Caine said, are more than 15,000 American service members who are providing very visible overwatch that commercial ships should recognize when they see it.
"Commercial vessels that transit through the area will see, hear and frankly, feel U.S. combat power around them, on the sea, in the skies and on the radio," he said. "And as of this morning, as was mentioned prior, two U.S.-flag merchant vessels have transited, and we anticipate more to transit over the coming days."
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Ostatnio edytowane:
Alrighty I'm adding in the C&C Generals music.
Pure fucking sovl.

One thing that has always fascinated me about this game is americans, chinese, and arabs are all depicted in extremely steryotypical and borderline insulting ways, and yet all 3 of the real life counterparts seem to love how they're depicted. (yes the CCP got mad about the dam blowing up but chinese people i know think they look based in this game)

The campaign mode was amazing, if only EA hadn't abandoned the multiplayer in this godawful balance state
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it would be next to brood war in the history books.

Jeremy said it best
 
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No bombing, no action. My day is ruined and my disappointment is immeasurable.
Trump attacks soon, inshallah.
Why do they keep calling our Navy the army? Are they trolling the squiddies at this point?
Semantics. I asked my Iranian buddy about this, he said in Persian culture the word "army" is often used to refer to all branches of the military.
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
"Don't build nukes, don't fund terror proxies, and don't hold the strait hostage"

"THIS IS LLLLLLITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE SAAR"
I found this pretty interesting. Pretty much what we've already talked about in here but summarized pretty well.


Basically they think if they give up the ability to chimp out they won't get their 72 bitches.
 
They acted as the bank to for nearly every terrorist group
To play the devil's advocate, it's an open secret that UAE for the longest time has been a hub of money laundering. They weren't laundering money from JUST islamic terror organizations. They were laundering money from criminal organizations, people wanting to dodge taxes in the west and etc. The UAE wasn't doing this because they wanted a global caliphate. They did this because they wanted to further their own pockets and use said organizations involvement as blackmail. Though to add, there is a limit
as to how much the UAE is willing to look the other way when it comes to money laundering and Iran's proxies+hezbollah were a big nono. Hell there was several instances in which the government caught several business owners who were laundering money for hezbollah and were arrested. Not to mention the wave of deportations of iranians that happened back in 2014-2015.
Also the UAE doesnt' want to build a decent military. If you do that, said military might rise up and overthrow the government.
:optimistic: but given how even people's anuses are surveiled here in UAE. i heavily suspect they likely have snuffed everyone that was a threat to the sheikhs that rule the 7 Emirates+the head honcho that rules over the 7 emirates. Otherwise they wouldn't be spending cash on making their militaries competent. Especially now that iran has proven they must have a contingency plan if iran gets uppity again.
 
Basically they think if they give up the ability to chimp out they won't get their 72 bitches.
Id say its a bit more grounded than that. Irans leadership and generals buy in large, have been isolated and don't understand western culture wars or social media that well. The higher ups were more plugged in, but they are dead so you have B-team generals leading. They still think the NYT, ABC, WaPost, Politico and other mainstream outlets carry weight with the American public. So, when all the doomers from Washington Post or NYT write that the walls are closing in on Drumpf, they believe it not realizing that not even Americans give a shit as to what these rags print. To their defense, not even the democrats understand Trump or realize how much things have changed in the past 6 years since Biden was president.

Iranian leaders see all the media and op-eds hand wringing about the chaos Orange Man is in and how it means its the end of MAGA so they think they have every reason to dig in and wait it out.
 
Id say its a bit more grounded than that. Irans leadership and generals buy in large, have been isolated and don't understand western culture wars or social media that well. The higher ups were more plugged in, but they are dead so you have B-team generals leading. They still think the NYT, ABC, WaPost, Politico and other mainstream outlets carry weight with the American public. So, when all the doomers from Washington Post or NYT write that the walls are closing in on Drumpf, they believe it not realizing that not even Americans give a shit as to what these rags print. To their defense, not even the democrats understand Trump or realize how much things have changed in the past 6 years since Biden was president.

Iranian leaders see all the media and op-eds hand wringing about the chaos Orange Man is in and how it means its the end of MAGA so they think they have every reason to dig in and wait it out.
Reminds me of when all the former Biden apparatchiks got in Zelenskis ear after Trump got reelected and assured him that Trump was king TACO and he just had to stand his ground and be firm and not yield an inch and Trump would give him what he wanted. Then we ended up with the complete shitshow during their meeting and he had to go back to the drawing board to figure out how to deal with Trump because it turns out listening to the people Trump defeated twice giving you reddit-coded advice on how to theoretically beat him is not the best idea.
 
but not touted publicly since its such a high bar.
To also add, a huge no no to tout politically thanks to GWOT and all the failed attempts at regime change because Muslims are inbred goatfucking savages that bring ruin to civilizations. Iran has the potential to have the third time charm and hopefully end up like japan where once things are stable enough, America screws off to deal with latin america and other global nonsense. I'm hopeful about this but unfortunately it's gonna be a PITA to achieve thanks to the apocalyptic death cult oppressing running the country.
 
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