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You need a balance. There are a lot of "Christians" who go to "church" every Sunday yet can't quote anything from the Bible except "Jesus loves you" and fall for the same empathy traps that leftists do.
Given the choice between Slannesh and a pious society with people that don't always take it seriously, I'll take the latter, personally
 
You need a balance. There are a lot of "Christians" who go to "church" every Sunday yet can't quote anything from the Bible except "Jesus loves you" and fall for the same empathy traps that leftists do.
I disagree entirely. That's not really the issue with modern Christianity if you ask me. There's nothing "less Christian" about being a member of a living church and treating your traditions as traditions, so long as you keep space for something more in that process than going through the motions.

The issue with the West, is Thomist scholasticism, and our taking of Greek science, and applying it to the Bible (which is also largely Greek btw), and claiming we could use measurements and conclusions from inside the universe, to measure that which exists outside of it. A stadimeter is fine for measuring the distance to a ship on the horizon, but it's utterly useless for finding God.

This is why Orthodox call the Silent Prayer of "Lord Have Mercy" their Second Triumph. Euclid is so you can build your house, not build a tower to God. The Greeks never made this mistake, and it's shocking that we in the West, thought we were so smart, we had found something the Greeks hadn't realized in their own philosophy and religion. Arrogance is the downfall of Western religiosity.

Funnily enough, it's the same impulse that tells you they need to read the Bible more. They really don't. Most people are confused by the Bible and misled by their own desires. They would be much better off keeping the Christian year, the traditions of the faith, and attending Liturgy. That's what the Nicene Creed tells us to do.

Until the West learns to render unto Caesar, we're doomed to use yardsticks to measure morality, and thermostats to divine the amount of grace in the land.
 
This is why Orthodox call the Silent Prayer of "Lord Have Mercy" their Second Triumph. Euclid is so you can build your house, not build a tower to God. The Greeks never made this mistake
One of the basic spiritual manuals of Orthodoxy is a 7th-century text known as the Ladder of Divine Ascent, laying out how to do exactly what you claim Orthodoxy doesn't do, building a tower to God, albeit through apophatic meditation and ascetic ritual rather than the scholastic "cathedral of the mind." At the end of the day. the East just uses Plotinus like the West uses Aristotle.
 
One of the basic spiritual manuals of Orthodoxy is a 7th-century text known as the Ladder of Divine Ascent, laying out how to do exactly what you claim Orthodoxy doesn't do, building a tower to God, albeit through apophatic meditation and ascetic ritual rather than the scholastic "cathedral of the mind." At the end of the day. the East just uses Plotinus like the West uses Aristotle.
You're actually retarded. You've missed the point entirely, and I'm requesting that you do not talk to me, you illiterate nigger.

A book of virtue for monastics, is totally impertinent to the debate of Thomism vs Palamism. It's not even close to being a related subject, to what I was articulating.
 
You're actually retarded. You've missed the point entirely, and I'm requesting that you do not talk to me, you illiterate nigger.

A book of virtue for monastics, is totally impertinent to the debate of Thomism vs Palamism.
No, I got what you said just fine. "The East doesn't make the mistakes the West does" is a popular, faddish thought these days, espoused by people who haven't spent any real time studying Eastern Orthodox history & theology with a critical eye, like you. Enjoy your magical paintings and enchanted oils, I guess.
 
So I know we in the USA get a bit of shit for our fucking up sometimes, id just like to add for context how truley cooked the Uks sitation is.

so all the way back on MARCH 1ST the british base at cyprus was hit
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in response the government immediatly ordered on of their top ships to go to the area to respond, lets check in on them now shall we?

Ohh dear...
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5 days ago it wasent even HALFWAY there, did the fuckers get lost? Nope they couldn't even LAUNCH for 2 fucking weeks after their sovereign territory was attacked.
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glad to know other than israel these are our number 1 allys, we sure know how to pick em dont we, the geopolitical version of being married to the fat ugly mean girl who beats us and our best friend has down syndrome who married a paki who also beats him lmao

great Mark Felton video on the topic, I love listening to british people talk about how fucked the UK is, its like my version of my 600lb life, makes my country feel better by comparison
 
This is why Orthodox call the Silent Prayer of "Lord Have Mercy"
One of the basic spiritual manuals of Orthodoxy is a 7th-century text known as the Ladder of Divine Ascent, laying out how to do exactly what you claim Orthodoxy doesn't do, building a tower to God, albeit through apophatic meditation and ascetic ritual rather than the scholastic "cathedral of the mind." At the end of the day. the East just uses Plotinus like the West uses Aristotle.


Orthodoxy also has the Hail Mary, but not quite the systematised Catholic rosary. Big difference between the Catholics and the Orthodox is that the Catholics invoke the imagination during prayer (kataphatic prayer, I believe is the proper term; I might be misspelling that), whilst the Orthodox invoke apophatic prayer. Kataphatic prayer is highly discouraged in Orthodoxy because using the imagination during prayer to say, envision one of the remembrances of the Theotokos, makes one highly prone to mistaking delusion for spiritual insight. "Hail Mary, full of grace, blessed art thou among women, blessed be the fruit of thy womb and thy Son Jesus" is stuff that's literally found in the Bible, if I'm not mistaken. The distinction with the Orthodox and their version is such that they do a 'remembrance' in silent contemplation without invoking the imagination.
 
glad to know other than israel these are our number 1 allys, we sure know how to pick em dont we, the geopolitical version of being married to the fat ugly mean girl who beats us and our best friend has down syndrome who married a paki who also beats him lmao
was struck with a scene from that 70s show as I wrote this, if you have seen the show/remember the scene I feel like it makes the meme REALLY work
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thread tax, the ice as TSA isent a meme it would appear
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France's navy is mogging the UK's and honestly that's pathetic.

The UK and France are the embodiment of "slap slap kiss" faggotry in geopolitics. When one is thriving, the other one is dying. Then the thriving one slips and falls, can't get back up for a time, and then the dying one starts thriving again. A tale as old as time.
 
This guy, an "ex-neocon" boomer who co-founded The American Conservative, has had so much multipolarity shoved up his ass he doesn't know what to do when the raping stops:

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Laugh as you will but this is coming. The question is timing. If it happens before next January Vance forfeits a second term - that's if he can win 2028 with the state of things by then

We're not even up to pitbull deaths annually yet (30-50)
Those were avoidable too. If you could've stopped those you would've tried right? Even if people made fun of you on the internet?
 
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Orthodoxy also has the Hail Mary, but not quite the systematised Catholic rosary. Big difference between the Catholics and the Orthodox is that the Catholics invoke the imagination during prayer (kataphatic prayer, I believe is the proper term; I might be misspelling that), whilst the Orthodox invoke apophatic prayer. Kataphatic prayer is highly discouraged in Orthodoxy because using the imagination during prayer to say, envision one of the remembrances of the Theotokos, makes one highly prone to mistaking delusion for spiritual insight. "Hail Mary, full of grace, blessed art thou among women, blessed be the fruit of thy womb and thy Son Jesus" is stuff that's literally found in the Bible, if I'm not mistaken. The distinction with the Orthodox and their version is such that they do a 'remembrance' in silent contemplation without invoking the imagination.
Quietness in prayer is called hesychia. We do not "invoke the imagination", you fast and enter into state called theosis, and you pray "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner". But, no one is going to stop you for praying for things, it's totally acceptable; it's just not hesychastic prayer, which is a specific practice with a specific goal; to "see Taboric Light". And honestly, I can't even tell you what that means exactly, as I'm not a good Christian.

But this is what I mean by Western folly. You do not learn about hesychia by Youtube. You're supposed to fast, go to church, sing the Troparions, smell the insense. It's a sensual, not rational, experience.

Religion is a practice of a real community of real people, not a set of debate points in your head, that you interpreted from a book. As an example: did you know we don't even have a Bible in the Orthodoxy? We keep the Evangelion and that's it. No OT books. They're still canon, we just don't physically keep them in the church. People ask to read the Bible we say "go buy any Bible in the vernacular, it does not matter from where." Typically suggesting King James. (Orthodox Study Bible is very expensive and not officially a thing, so we don't tell people to go spend money on it.) Because what really matters to the church, is that you participate in it. You don't really need a Bible if you keep the Christian calendar.

And in regards to the rosary, we absolutely pray the rosary like the Romans, but there's no strict standard, because it's a practice that entered the Orthodoxy through the Maronites, Melkites, and recent converts. It's seen more popularity recently because of people leaving Novos Ordo for our Liturgy, and bringing the practice with them from Maronite, Melkite, or other Roman churches. There's no issue with praying the rosary how you did in Catholic church.

Please just go to a church if you're curious. Not to be harsh on the Father, but I think I'm free to express how mortifying I find his online presence without it being sinful, but personally, I find the fact that this Father even does this, sort of big online presence to talk about scholastic soft science topics like anxiety and depression, frankly embarrassing. I don't think it's befitting a Palamist and you would never see this from a friar in a small Antiochene church. We're not self-help gurus. We're not evangelicals making apologetics to atheists. We keep the mysteries.

The West has fallen. Fatpacks where are you Xister???????????
 
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glad to know other than israel these are our number 1 allys, we sure know how to pick em dont we, the geopolitical version of being married to the fat ugly mean girl who beats us and our best friend has down syndrome who married a paki who also beats him lmao
Turns out that Israel actually is our Greatest Ally because every other ally is completely incompetent.
 
so just cause I feel the USA hasent done a good job claifying this

WE HAVE DISPATCHED 2 MEUS (Marine Expeditionary Unit) we only have 7 of those total and 2 of them being moved into the OA signals an escalation.

first one we distpatched is the 31st MEU based out of Japan with their "flagship" being the USS Tripoli, this was dispatched about a week or so ago
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the other is the 1tth MEU, this is based out of California with the "flagship" U.S.S Boxer and we only got news they are heading over about a day or 2 ago
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this is the naval compliment of the the 31st MEU, the 11th is more or less identical with the names of the ships being the only difference
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based on my reading this means if you discount support staff and sailors between both groups thats ABOUT 2,500 marines who are riflemen designed to "storm the beach"

and remember the Marines got rid of all their tanks in 2020
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so looking at all this if I was a bettting man id say its VERY likley these are forces to secure one of the islands not a mainland invasion force, but I have been wrong before
 
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