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Usually when "sources" reveal that a politician doesn't plan to run for POTUS, the opposite ends up happening lol.

Vance is either keeping it close to the chest, or he's making way for Rubio and will continue to be VP under that administration.
It's a stupid idea. Whether you agree with the president's decisions or not, the 2028 presidential election will be heavily affected by fatigue over whatever has been going on since then. It's a certainty that Vance will be seen as more of Trump, which means unless Trump suddenly achieves 90% approval rating you don't want to market stale policy to the American people. Vance would ideally run in 2032 especially if the next president is a Democrat and fucks up incredibly.
 
Not to mention this is basically him having a bitchfit and then flipping the table on the way out.

With the final nail being the interview circuit INSTANTLY afterwards.

Dude this thread and the war thread openly talked about the massive China angle to all of this for the first couple of days straight.

Of course now that it's been a a week or two, that's being swept away and openly ignored by certain people.
I think this deserves the sign-tapping treatment at this point.
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Nigga, Vance is going to be in prison if Trump aligned Republican isn’t elected in 2028 lmao
This is like believing he was going to lock up Hillary. Even if you believe politicians are just champagne-sipping freaks who view ordinary people as disposable insects they still won't want to be the one to go through the headache of prosecuting Trump and probably losing for the tenth time.
 
I don't like Levin either, but I will point out how you had to go for a dual citizen and not an Israeli, when the example I gave was Netanyehu. I agree though, all dual citizens should be deported to the country they're a 'secondary citizen' of, because they are all making it clear that their allegiance isn't with America. Trump is wrong on Levin, that NEW Americans have to pledge, which involves renouncing allegiences and other ties to countries and places of living. It should be the same for a natural American. If you want to be 'dual', you are not American. Schumer? Gone. Mark Levin? Retarded, gone. Literally everyone of every single dual nationality, completely and totally gone. But, I'm also the kind of person who thinks flying another nation's flag in any way in our country should be completely illegal. I think the First Amendment needed some work that the founding fathers did not have time for, and probably couldn't have planned ahead with anyway.
Well yea, I think everyone here would agree on at least that, but its not in the cards, the reason America is putting the flying elbow to Iran is pretty obvious.. Israel is in the endgame of their plans which means America is completely and totally saturated and compromised in their favor, I mean they spent well over 50 years of work to pull that level of takeover off, you don't just flip on a dime on that in a year or 5.

I struggle to see some sort of path towards wresting ourselves of these leeches in the near future, it isn't so much "dooming" as I have no fucking idea what can even be done, elected officials have been pretty well vetted to be Isreali positive, even some that say otherwise publicly would never in a million years put their careers on the line to really oppose their big efforts.
All this wouldn't even be an issue if they were symbiotic about it.. but they are not, nothing more obvious than this current conflict which will economically fuck our ass for at least 5 years and hand the the midterms to the Dems if Gas and Food and Goods go up in prices, which is a surefire way to piss off voters.
 
An Oregon high school principal placed on leave for celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk has been sentenced to five years in prison for possession of child abuse material.
My man was on Reddit, getting sent CP he allegedly never asked for, after being put on leave from his job because he was "upset about Charlie Kirk's assassination", which actually means he was a gravedancing sperg at work. While he's technically too employed to be the average redditor, he is at least what you would imagine would appear in a redditor meetup photo, CP on his harddrive and all.
 
All this wouldn't even be an issue if they were symbiotic about it.. but they are not, nothing more obvious than this current conflict which will economically fuck our ass for at least 5 years and hand the the midterms to the Dems if Gas and Food and Goods go up in prices, which is a surefire way to piss off voters.
most of what you say, I agree with, however just like on tariffs, I do not care that a bunch of retards are going to have to pay a dollar or two more for their chinesium garbage. The United States is the largest oil producer in the world, and will not feel the oil squeeze from this because we have our own refineries. If your concern is economic pricing circa 2028, you should be grateful that this is happening so early on, and will without any doubt in my mind (there, Said No One Ever, I am making the hard call this war will be over by 2028 :story: ) reduce the price increase that iranian spergouts, houthi faggotry, and lebanese cuckery allow to run rampant. The saudis are going to keep pumping oil west to bypass the strait, and Iran will lose regional power AND its global ties with a country like China, because of this.

I understand your hatred of the Hebrews, but I just don't agree that the Iranian area of influence will cause US prices to rise in any appreciable way, especially long-term, and ESPECIALLY when you compare an iranless 2028 to an Iran-filled 2028. And, again, this is a long step toward removing regional influence from China, who were Iran's main handlers these days, though the Russians still gave it the ol' Collegeski try. I agree you're not dooming, which is why I think people are willing to be a bit gentler with you than with the actual obvious doomers.
 
If the Dems take back everything come 2028 they won't even touch a hair on Trump or Vances heads, because Trump gave them the Iran curbstomp without having to get them involved at all, they all can act nonchalant and non committal to the entire affair, which all the big Dems wanted, for that alone Trump is at least okay in their books, they will all call him a fascist and all sorts of hot air shit, but Trump did them a huge solid, knowingly or not.
 
It's sad that you can show Liberals pure evidence of something and they still are blind to see it.
They take the nick shirley videos, with 50 empty medical offices in a building.
They spin it as "Look as these somalians here, yep look at them somalians go."
Like it's a late night talk show joke or something.
 
I understand your hatred of the Hebrews, but I just don't agree that the Iranian area of influence will cause US prices to rise in any appreciable way, especially long-term, and ESPECIALLY when you compare an iranless 2028 to an Iran-filled 2028. And, again, this is a long step toward removing regional influence from China, who were Iran's main handlers these days, though the Russians still gave it the ol' Collegeski try. I agree you're not dooming, which is why I think people are willing to be a bit gentler with you than with the actual obvious doomers.
I don't really "hate" them, more that I oppose them, I am simply reacting to their actions, they want to ride America and suck it dry and are bald faced about it.

And you can bet your fucking ass as long as the Hormuz is blockaded the price of fucking everything is going to go up, and has already started, even in my Meatcutting profession this is already true.
 
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This feels fake and wish fulfillment, it would be horrible for Vance to be given the mantle of heir to Trump then give it away, and that places an impossible burden on the kid as being the reason he gave up. And then chances are that kid will turn into a crazy liberal psycho.
Rubio could make a real challenge for the nomination.

The Maga base seems to like him, Rinos like him, the Desantis wing likes him. He's also a "based minority" which is some of retarded catnip for Republican primary voters or at least the people who rig the primaries. He and his family also look and act white enough to not set off alarm bells for the other parts of the base. Also the jews who installed Trump like him more.

The Fraud Czar is going to go nowhere because Vance is going to have a hostile judiciary and a traitorous DoJ. Meanwhile Marco can claim the foreign policy wins if the Iran shit plays out ok.

Strictly speaking Vance is way weaker politically than Marco. This is why he is Trumps heir ironically enough. Vance won his senate seat due to Maga and all of Vances political power and future is tied to Maga. Marco on the other hand would be welcomed back to the Rinos. He wouldnt carry on "Trumps legacy".
 
And you can bet your fucking ass as long as the Hormuz is blockaded the price of fucking everything is going to go up, and has already started, even in my Meatcutting profession this is already true.
I know this is a hard question, because it might be giving away TMI, but what exactly has gone up in your profession, and how does the strait of hormuz affect it? I don't mean that it's not true, I'm actually curious about this.
 
It's sad that you can show Liberals pure evidence of something and they still are blind to see it.
uh its because they do see, its called Doublethink/Newspeak.
they know implicitly what is going on, but also "do not know", at the same time, and when needed, modern leftism requires you to use doublethink either in the very least publically and outwardly, if not also inwardly/privately.

Your ability to swim in the morass of contradictions is critical to remaining in the good graces of other Leftoids, its why they are so high strung and freak out when people point out the obvious.. they are constantly living many many lies at once, that they know are lies, but also do not know, whenver needed.

I know this is a hard question, because it might be giving away TMI, but what exactly has gone up in your profession, and how does the strait of hormuz affect it? I don't mean that it's not true, I'm actually curious about this.
When gas goes up, no matter how much, the cost of meat goes up, because the price of meat is how much it costs to kill, butcher, process, and truck and ship, it around.
The most affected, as always, is Beef, for a variety of reasons, you can get a very very good read on the economy just monitoring average red meat prices, when things were really bad a few years ago, Tenderloins hit 40$ a pound, I cannot stress to you how fucking insane that was.

We are absolutely on track, to exceed that in the very near future, and all the major places that handle cutting have been warned about the incoming price increases, which means its even worse than they are warning, because that's just the nice frontloading they get from the packing plants or w/e.

Its fucked, my guy, every fucking day this conflict goes on without us making the oil flow again, compounds many issues here and abroad.
 
If the Dems take back everything come 2028 they won't even touch a hair on Trump or Vances heads, because Trump gave them the Iran curbstomp without having to get them involved at all, they all can act nonchalant and non committal to the entire affair, which all the big Dems wanted, for that alone Trump is at least okay in their books, they will all call him a fascist and all sorts of hot air shit, but Trump did them a huge solid, knowingly or not.
The new york case is still stayed pending judgement unless i missed something. New York will absolutely try to to lock him up after his term is over.
 
When gas goes up, no matter how much, the cost of meat goes up, because the price of meat is how much it costs to kill, butcher, process, and truck and ship, it around.
The most affected, as always, is Beef, for a variety of reasons, you can get a very very good read on the economy just monitoring average red meat prices, when things were really bad a few years ago, Tenderloins hit 40$ a pound, I cannot stress to you how fucking insane that was.

We are absolutely on track, to exceed that in the very near future, and all the major places that handle cutting have been warned about the incoming price increases, which means its even worse than they are warning, because that's just the nice frontloading they get from the packing plants or w/e.

Its fucked, my guy, every fucking day this conflict goes on without us making the oil flow again, compounds many issues here and abroad.
But that's what I'm kind of confused by. American Gas has no reason to be going up. We do not get a drop of crude from Iran, and we produce more than they do anyway. In 2024, we only imported 6 million USD of crude from Iran. We do not use their crude for almost anything. The price of gas going up is not a REFLECTION of the reality of it the situation in the Strait. It's a panic from oil markets freaking out because they can't just... wait until a conflict is over to adjust things, they have to use AI (I have no evidence of this but traders have been using it for over a decade) to make sure everything is traded immediately. Not to mention that states set their own gas taxes, and lib states will set higher taxes when they want people to feel like gas prices are up.

I have paid close attention to the gas prices in my area and any time I talk with family in other places. My red state family has seen an extremely short term increase in fuel prices that fell a day or two later, back to about the same as they were pre-Iran. I'm not saying you're wrong that fuel went up or anything, just that this is not "Strait closed, American oil gets more expensive." It simply doesn't work that way. The reason it would increase CHINESIUM prices is because they can't import that oil at sweet low prices anymore, which allowed them to, in part of course, undercut US economic power. They have to pay more for oil, the price of petroleum plastics increases by a small amount, they have to pay more to fuel their failing military ideals, and they have to pay more to manufacture chinesium and ship it, too. This is probably the biggest REAL squeeze the US can put on China without moving on Chinese-owned assets.
 
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