Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

[Looseleaf Paper]

Have they considered simply flying the oil out with planes? Maybe Submarine oil tankers?

 

[Leylon Sneed]

Have they considered simply flying the oil out with planes? Maybe Submarine oil tankers?

I know you're being facetious, but Saudi Arabia is just piping it to their West Coast and loading tankers there, adds a couple days but they are otherwise unaffected. Gonna be costly rebuilding infrastructure, but that's not happening till things cool down. Kuwait is kind fucked tho.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

you mean besides the last 45 years of them fucking with us

all the shit iran has visibly done to us?

Can you be specific? I'm well aware of all the shit ISIS and al-Qaeda have done to the US in the region, and here in the US too. But those are Sunni Arab groups that have nothing to do with Iran. When has Iran attacked the US?

Do you honestly think Iran is a bigger threat to the US than Saudi Arabia, or Israel for that matter?

besides the fact that they've pushed for a nuclear bomb?

nuclear weapons pose a threat to the US.

Well yes, pushing for a nuclear bomb is the only logical response to try and prevent exactly what is happening now, is it not?

And, why am I supposed to care that Iran wants nukes, when Israel has them too? And so does North Korea, a country that we're supposed to think will nuke everyone. And Pakistan too, who is a Muslim country and we're supposed to think they're going to blow up everyone too. Maybe the propaganda is actually bullshit, and the reason they want nukes is so we don't attack their country?

there's your reality. the biggest pro-israel lobby isn't even fucking aipac, it's evangelical boomers who want the third temple built

Yes, there are other big pro-Israel lobbies too, but lobby groups like J Street and DMFI aren't focusing on the Zionist neocon shit with as widespread reach as AIPAC does. AIPAC has significant impact on both parties considering 505 out of 538 members of Congress get money from them. When you have 94% of Congress on the payroll, you're a threat. The fact that evangelical boomers are cheering them on is neither surprising, nor does it contradict my point.

And not that it matters to the point, but yes all of this lobbying (not just AIPAC) is a corruption of government.

That all leads us back to the original point which is: Iran is not a threat to the US. I've seen how they've been called this imminent threat for 40 years and have yet to have a single negative impact that they've made on my life. And to recap:

• Iran isn't the reason we have $31 Trillion (and counting) in National Debt
• Iran isn't the reason the cost of living continues to rise uncontrollably in the US
• Iran isn't the reason we have morally bankrupt ideologies being pushed on our kids in the media
• Iran isn't the reason test scores in our schools continue to drop like a fucking rock
• Iran isn't the reason we have a generation of young people glued to screens and lacking critical thinking skills

I think you've been bamboozled into not seeing who our real enemy is. Really ask yourself who is to blame for the above, because that's what we should be fighting against.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Do you honestly think Iran is a bigger threat to the US than Saudi Arabia, or Israel for that matter?

yes, because saudi arabia plays nicely now.

for one, i don't think i need to give specific examples for how hezbollah and the houthis' main goal is to disrupt shipping around the arab world, and they're decently effective at it when left to their own devices. the houthis have also struck at least one US ship and killed a US servicemember with the USS cole bombing.

they also fund the iraqi militias that attack US bases in iraq. if your statement is "well maybe we shouldn't have bases there," you're a fucking moron. the US should have more bases everywhere in the world, and we should be killing these dirty sand niggers EN MASSE, genocidally, if they even dare speak up.

Well yes, pushing for a nuclear bomb is the only logical response to try and prevent exactly what is happening now, is it not?

so it's logical for them to pursue a nuclear weapon, but NOT logical for us, whom they would be using that nuclear weapon to fuck with us? why would they not then use nuclear deterrence to continue with MORE violent terrorism, in a more open and wide way, now that they have a nuclear threat to point at anyone who would dare go against them, especially the sunnis in the region who have, while not completely calmed, decided that international trade and making themselves wealthier is way better than bombing the US.

however, i have made it very clear that i personally would support destroying every single state that doesn't decide to bow and acknowledge the US as supreme hegemon of the world, forever, starting with our greatest enemies, and working our way down to the tiniest villages across the world. Total American Domination.

And, why am I supposed to care that Iran wants nukes, when Israel has them too? And so does North Korea, a country that we're supposed to think will nuke everyone. And Pakistan too, who is a Muslim country and we're supposed to think they're going to blow up everyone too. Maybe the propaganda is actually bullshit, and the reason they want nukes is so we don't attack their country?

north korea is literally the exact reason you s hould care. they claimed they only wanted enrichment for power plants, and then created an alleged nuclear bomb no one has actually seen PROOF of. they have now used this to be a gigantic problem in asia, including using that extra nuclear assurance to fuck with our shit in east-asia, like our anti-china works. north korea became an actual problem for the US to figure out how to solve once they got nuclear weapons, and now they constantly threaten Japan with missiles they launch into the sea, claiming they can do more. who gives a fuck WHY iran wants a nuclear weapon? it's not our job to let other countries nuclearize. what the fuck? this is just muzzie apologetica, dude, holy shit. i don't give a fuck if israel has nukes, we should also force them to be a completely vassalized state that worships america, just like every other country on the globe should be.

pakistan literally started a war with india AND afghanistan in the last year, are they really who you're gonna point to for all those super peaceful dudes in the middle east? pakistan also doesn't literally go on state TV constantly, all over twitter constantly, calling America the Great Satan and threatening to kill us all.

That all leads us back to the original point which is: Iran is not a threat to the US. I've seen how they've been called this imminent threat for 40 years and have yet to have a single negative impact that they've made on my life. And to recap:

so let me get this straight. you believe that iran, a country that has steadily progressed toward a nuclear missile, and is currently shooting conventional ballistics at every single gulf state in a hissy fit rage where the PRESIDENT OF THEIR COUNTRY has literally lost control of their own military... should have a nuclear weapon. and that they would NEVER use it on america.

this is exactly what i mean. you do not care about those things at all unless it is in the context of somehow being the reason we shouldn't go to war with iran.

explain to me how ANY of this is made better by iran getting a nuclear missile and sealing off the middle east from american trade, or trade going through there to get to us? explain to me how allowing a proxy state of china, our greatest enemy, getting more powerful, being able to monopolize a region, and having NUCLEAR FUCKING WEAPONS is acceptable to us. please, explain that.

Explain why you ignored the entire section of my post that talks about how muslims demand that we all be fucking murdered for believing in Christ, or not believing in Allah, or pay the jizya for a time until we either do convert or simply die, and a nuclear weapon is a step toward that?

You won't, because you ARE a muslim, and this is why you're using taqqiya. until you post hands and prove you're not a filthy fucking muslim, we have nothing more to say to each other.

i am one of the single most racist people on this entire website, and everyone who pretends they're racist but argues about how innocent iran is reveals that you suck muzzie dick, or ARE a muzzie. have a nice bombing, brownoid.

 

[Butterschmalz]

Damn this is huge.

Officially admits:

- Iran was not a threat
- We did it just for Israel and followed a disinformation campaign orchestrated by them and the media
- Americans dying for nothing

This is brave and the guy is a true patriot.

Again in better quality:
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Israel shills in the "news thread" shaking. "bUT l00k aT h1s hAiR"
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=Tut6dmaiojs

Title of the movie: : "20 Years a migger". Starring Tom Hanks.

 

[Froggy Fresh Sextape]

I can only imagine some faction forming deals are happening in the background.

Yeah everyone knows AIPAC will just mow down the tallest blade of grass, but if you get like maybe 150 congress critters standing together then they aren't really able to do anything without it blowing up in their faces. Just keep the message focused on how Israel shouldn't be able to control our foreign policy aims.

Like...the far left is about five seconds away from chanting from the river to the sea, far right never liked Jews, it's really only the evangelical boomers left supporting Israel (and American Jews but they're not a big voting bloc) so if anyone wants to find their balls now would be the time.

 

[Prööt :DD]

Like...the far left is about five seconds away from chanting from the river to the sea, far right never liked Jews, it's really only the evangelical boomers left supporting Israel (and American Jews but they're not a big voting bloc) so if anyone wants to find their balls now would be the time.

The American far right, besides God's Gayest Groypers, loves Israel's implementation of Zionism through sheer military force. There's a reason why so many on this forum are cheerleading the current massacre in Iran despite all the pre-election "no more wars" bullshit. At the end of the day, these people are willing to put aside their supposed hatred of Jews and/or Israel to watch and dance from the sidelines while an inferior country is blown to shit, even as they drag down the global economy with them and make the US look like the world's most unreliable ally ever.

 

[Taser Confetti]

The American far right, besides God's Gayest Groypers, loves Israel's implementation of Zionism through sheer military force. There's a reason why so many on this forum are cheerleading the current massacre in Iran despite all the pre-election "no more wars" bullshit. At the end of the day, these people are willing to put aside their supposed hatred of Jews and/or Israel to watch and dance from the sidelines while an inferior country is blown to shit, even as they drag down the global economy with them and make the US look like the world's most unreliable ally ever.

War’s exhilarating when you’re mentally fourteen and completely sheltered from the consequences.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Yeah everyone knows AIPAC will just mow down the tallest blade of grass, but if you get like maybe 150 congress critters standing together then they aren't really able to do anything without it blowing up in their faces. Just keep the message focused on how Israel shouldn't be able to control our foreign policy aims.

Like...the far left is about five seconds away from chanting from the river to the sea, far right never liked Jews, it's really only the evangelical boomers left supporting Israel (and American Jews but they're not a big voting bloc) so if anyone wants to find their balls now would be the time.

Tulsi is getting grilled by congress (or something american governmenty) and said Iran's nuclear production facilities were wiped out in the strike last year and there were no signs that Iran had restarted the facilities.

But the jews needed to bomb iran because they had nukes, or regime change, or something.

 

[MeltyTW]

We now have cnn citing north korea tier 100 percent support polls for trump, a number even north korean dictators avoid. war's fucked and trump knows it.

 

[browserbowser]

The American far right, besides God's Gayest Groypers, loves Israel's implementation of Zionism through sheer military force.

Define what policy positions you consider constitutive of a 'far right' worldview.

Because what you said here doesn't make sense unless you consider anyone who isn't what would normally be considered a centrist or of a center-left worldview 'far right'.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Iran have bombed an oil city in Qatar in retaliation for the israeli strikes. Iran gave qatar warning it was going to happen so that they could evacuate civilians. Both humanitarian and retarded in one fell swoop.

Iran seem to be playing the PR game, thought I don't know how when their leaders are dead, military decapitated and launchers all destroyed...

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Seems there's some truth to that rumor from yesterday.
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Spoiler: Local Archive

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were any of us actually in disagreement? i don't think this dude is lying when he was begging for his life. he was genuinely desperate in what he was saying. if he were being truthful it would be stupidly obvious, the israelis own all the traffic cams in tehran and we've blown up more IRGC than iran can count, but when it comes to these kinds of guys, both we and the heebs have been hesitant to strike more than the ayatollah and his cabinet (which would also be a linked IRGC group). you need some kind of civilian leadership to negotiate with. the shah's boys are gonna have to have SOMEBODY alive to interrogate about all this too.

Trump telling the kikes to slow their roll. Iran has been sufficiently explained what will happen, and now the ball's back in their court to respond. they will, of course, chimp out again, as muzzies do, but this is more evidence that we are not fighting the jew war here, and we aren't doing anything WE don't want to.

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https://x.com/planefag/status/2034376742253764670

you wouldn't be seeing a B2 at its operational height either i'm pretty sure, so it's not a Spirit.

 

[Epic Fail Man]

All of these wars are because of foreign Abrahamic middle eastern religions. If you are Jewish, Muslim, and even Christian you are brown by default.

You are not based if you are pro-israel you are still brown like muslim, you are not based as a Christian because Christianity is a foreign religion from shithole middle east formed by brown people. Fuck Jerusalem. I see many people larping as le white man but still follow a middle eastern shithole religion.

If you are truly of European descent, it's time to go back brothers, to the culture of our people, let's deport these dumb religions from shithole desert cultures and go back to Odinism and Heathenism and celebrate our true heritage.

I don't know what PCP you snorted to post these heretical ramblings, but the debate thread is over there.

If you're black it's ok. There's also voodoo. Now back to war updates.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

lol another faggot crying about stickers

All of these wars are because of foreign Abrahamic middle eastern religions. If you are Jewish, Muslim, and even Christian you are brown by default.

You are not based if you are pro-israel you are still brown like muslim, you are not based as a Christian because Christianity is a foreign religion from shithole middle east formed by brown people. Fuck Jerusalem. I see many people larping as le white man but still follow a middle eastern shithole religion.

If you are truly of European descent, it's time to go back brother, to the culture of our people, let's deport these dumb religions from shithole desert cultures and go back to Odinism and Heathenism and celebrate our true heritage.
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how many times do i have to teach you this lesson, old man? you got thoroughly embarrassed in USPG2, and it's not going to go any better for your ass here, visajeet.

here, a reminder to everyone what he said.

Does it matter if I'm brown or not.

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I don't know what PCP you snorted to post these heretical ramblings, but the debate thread is over there.

don't engage, he's a literal brownoid. it's why he's coming over here to try and fail at using my tactic of revealing his own brownness. he doesn't understand that a true camper can SMELL the BO through their screen. it is very unpleasant, and i do not recommend it.

Its either that new mystery drone or the B-21 program is a bit further along than anybody is admitting? Somebody did get some photos of a B-21 tanking from a KC-135 a few days ago. And the USAF has said the 2 testing prototypes that they have are so close to the final production model that they will simply be put into front line service instead of retiring them after testing.

the b-21's a bit more rounded i think? this is a 2024 shot of one flying and may not even be ACTUAL footage of one but a render to keep the enemy unaware of what it looks like, but i'm not as up on the B-21 as I should be, considering how gorgeous this plane is.


i'm still pissed the F-22 is almost assuredly never going to see actual air-air combat with a hostile nation, because the F-35s seem to be handling things just fine. those beauties are NEVER getting to consume the JY-35.

Taking out Iran's oil infrastructure means a longer harder recovery for them after the war is over. They'll need a lot of aid in the short term no matter what, but the new government having oil revenue will go a long way to keeping the country stable. There's little point in trying to install a friendly government if the country is in shambles and completely destabilized.

this is why i believe trump doesn't want any more strikes on oil infrastructure, and that they're using the strikes on that stuff so gingerly BECAUSE he wants as much as can possibly be salvaged remaining after the war is over.

 

[Epic Fail Man]

ow many times do i have to teach you this lesson, old man? you got thoroughly embarrassed in USPG2, and it's not going to go any better for your ass here, visajeet.

here, a reminder to everyone what he said.

Is this an own? Aren't you the one replying to every post sperging about them being brown?

Oh look a sticker sperg as well. Classic.


Sorry, I usually don't react to posts that lash out and take bait, I'll be sure to change that.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Two weeks to flatten the curve secure the SoH.
Are extra resources boots on the ground? How do they know it will take 2 weeks?

 

[Thomas Talus]

Trump Administration denies the existence of Alien 3, Resurrection, and all the other spinoffs

I'm not saying the administration is about to reveal the existence of aliens...

...but the administration is about to reveal the existence of aliens.

American Right lost the culture war as soon as Trump took the bribe from all the tech companies in his inauguration. There will be no right wing revolution in the USA. Ever. America is fucked and a glorified middle eastern country.

If you are truly of European descent, it's time to go back brothers, to the culture of our people, let's deport these dumb religions from shithole desert cultures and go back to Odinism and Heathenism and celebrate our true heritage.

Username/posts combo

I just can't wrap my head around their backwards moon logic. Qatar is probably their closest ally in the region. It's the only country that condemned Israel for striking their natural gas facilities.
And their thanks is to get rockets hurled at them? Who's even making decisions in that failed state?

There might be some Islamic fatalism at work: "The closest target Allah has presented us with are the Qataris, so it is Allah's will that we aim at the Qataris."

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Is this an own? Aren't you the one replying to every post sperging about them being brown?

Oh look a sticker sperg as well. Classic.
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Sorry, I usually don't react to posts that lash out and take bait, I'll be sure to change that.

CENTCOM Published footage of strikes on Iranian air defense, launchers & a singular drone. Posted by CENTCOM 4 hours ago so hope the search doesn't betray me and that I'm

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at this point we're farming them like a one-point hard cap in battlefield, they are not allowed to do anything but spawn their dudes in and they get immediately misted. truly, we are going to lose this war today. allah's mightiest, piss be upon them, are taking the fight to us in their desert fields... and we sucker punch them across the country.

Another senior White House official said, "We’re over here just grinding away on banger memes, dude. There’s an entertainment factor to what we do. But ultimately, it boils down to the fact that no one has ever attempted to communicate with the American public this way before."

the revulsion this sentence sent through me, at the realization that people who speak this way run our government, still does not equal one one billionth of the hate I feel toward muslims in this microinstant. Hate. Hate.

Hypersonic missiles from the chinese mainland were supposed to guarantee the naval conflict.

the fact that we can apparently just run around all these countries with the most cutting edge technology known to chink, and they can do exactly nothing to stop us but threaten other countries is a pretty good indicator that MAYBE the chinks and ziggers have been lying about their capabilities, hoping we'd NEVER test it.

 

[MeltyTW]

Iran have bombed an oil city in Qatar in retaliation for the israeli strikes. Iran gave qatar warning it was going to happen so that they could evacuate civilians. Both humanitarian and retarded in one fell swoop.

Iran seem to be playing the PR game, thought I don't know how when their leaders are dead, military decapitated and launchers all destroyed...

its almost like iran is a rational actor and isnt a desperate animal with no ability to strike and hasnt depleted decades of build up in a day.

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Two weeks to flatten the curve secure the SoH.
Are extra resources boots on the ground? How do they know it will take 2 weeks?

theyre going to get thousands of us troops killed, say iran had no right to do it, and trump and yidsrael will play victim when regime change happens in america instead of rallying people to fight for a dotard. the kosher thread and their ilk will cry that youre a traitor as they ignore their dumbasses got the troops killed.