Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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Ughubughughughughughghlug powiedział(a):
I have a theory on part of why Russia and Iran managed to function as paper tigers for so long.

It's the Pentagon's fault.

Anybody that knows more about this stuff is welcome to correct me if I'm wrong. Here's my pitch:

If you're the dude that's in charge of wargaming this stuff, all of the institutional incentives line up in the direction of playing up how scary the enemy is and how you need a bigger budget. It is a fact of reality that every institution, of any sort, exists to maximize its discretionary power and budget, even if the ultimate motivations are more complicated discretionary power + budget expands the choice set of how you can achieve that goal. Is. A. Fact.

Now, if you come along and say, "Iran is in fact quite mid" that DOES NOT drive panic and fear and look good on C-SPAN if Congress votes you another six gorillion dollars for procurement. If you say that you also look negligent, potentially, to your immediate superiors, and your superiors may pressure you to phony stuff up too. So you will always, always present things through a catastrophizing lens. This then gets passed on to the civilian administration, the media, and that in turn constrains the ability of your military to act.

Then add on the second layer to this: when we wargame, we are not in fact wargaming against Iranians, we are wargaming against an Iranian OOB commanded by Americans. Even to the extent you're supposed to replicate however that other army works, makes decisions, "don't act retarded, do take this seriously" is Wargaming 101, so you've got this 200 IQ Gigachad American officers playing 70 IQ Middle Eastern/Slavic retards, and that dramatically overestimates how competent they're going to be.

The irony of it all? Taking your job seriously, obeying that central rule that you never underestimate the enemy, paralyzes you like McClellan against the Army of Northern Virginia.

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."
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You’re onto something about analysis paralysis. The overthink and don’t act decisively.

I thought everyone already assumed the war games were just ways to beg for more funding.
Goku 1000000 O powiedział(a):
Same. People don’t realize that we are way too traumatized as a country to start a draft again. Our leaders are just not that politically suicidal.
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Yeah. A draft is political suicide. If we needed one by then the bombs will have dropped. The only scenario I can think of is if there was a major natural disaster that needed tons of bass in a short period of time or perhaps if things spiraled out of control with the cartels.
Kornheiser powiedział(a):
Well it goes back to the Cold War that anytime we saw new equipment the Soviets made we read it at face value to procure the next generation of equipment to outclass them. The reality is that the us finally got Soviet equipment it was generally a generation behind while we had advanced two generations. That’s it
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Meme tax:
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Bummer powiedział(a):
How about you post foreskin? The vast majority of opposition to this is because it does nothing to benefit Americans and puts so much as risk. I'll take the trash cans now, it's not going to make me less right, faggots.
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GAAAY.
Mr. Racewar1488 powiedział(a):
US State Dept. tells Americans to not go to Iraq.
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Fuck. There goes my vacation plans.
 
Mr. Racewar1488 powiedział(a):
Ayatollah Abdollah Javadi Amoli, a prominent Islamic scholar of the Islamic Republic of Iran and a Twelver Shi'a Marja, issued a Fatwa (religious ordain) declaring Jihad (holy war) against the United States & the State of Israel.
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How is this any different than last Wednesday?
 
Sheryl Nome powiedział(a):
this all could have been avoided if Iran wasn't giga retarded but they are
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Supposedly like 60% of world leaders do not understand Trump and he terrifies them for this. He’s an 80’s real estate broker who likes Diet Coke, MacDonald’s, Opera, Rococo interior design, and most competitive sports. He’s also spiteful and vindictive enough to hold grudges for ages (see fat cow Rosie O’Donnell and Obama).

They tried to fucking kill him and they were dumb enough to be in a drought so bad it caused riots with how poorly they managed it. If the nuke shit is correct, then Trump probably played it correctly.
 
Catch The Rainbow powiedział(a):
You went from being a soldier of the greatest and most powerful country in human history to being a filthy whore for the Iranians and blaming your whoredom on the Jews when it came from your own inner flaws. You are a disgusting "human" being to sell your mind to the 7th century Mullahs and their suicidal faith in their Imam Ali. In fact, you are worse than the Shia, they only observe Ashura and mutilate themselves once a year while you mutilate yourself daily.

Ali raised the door of Khaybar to slay the Jews, you raise your glass to bitch about them.
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You just can’t help going mask off when an actual American doesn’t give deference to Israel, can you? Remember guys, this is the truth behind the ‘spear of the West’. Greatest ally until you dare notice anything wrong.
 
Blewberry Nausea powiedział(a):
You just can’t help going mask off when an actual American doesn’t give deference to Israel, can you? Remember guys, this is the truth behind the ‘spear of the West’. Greatest ally until you dare notice anything wrong.
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That seems to be the running theme here; imply Isreal's problem isn't necessarily Americas problem and they just immidiately start screaming "MUZZIE LOVER!" like it has anything to do with anything.
 
Blewberry Nausea powiedział(a):
You just can’t help going mask off when an actual American doesn’t give deference to Israel, can you? Remember guys, this is the truth behind the ‘spear of the West’. Greatest ally until you dare notice anything wrong.
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calling america controlled by "demonic, child-raping rats" and shilling for iran is not "giving deference to Israel", it's selling yourself out to people who hate your existence and want to kill you.

there's a reason why i heavily leaned on shia references

also i was drunk af and got really pissed at seeing pathetic self hating people

Nana Feeder 9k powiedział(a):
That seems to be the running theme here; imply Isreal's problem isn't necessarily Americas problem and they just immidiately start screaming "MUZZIE LOVER!" like it has anything to do with anything.
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except he historically shills for muslims and has hoped that Iran which is run by a Shia death cult actively trying to bring about the Madhi gets a nuclear weapon.
 
Robbyretard powiedział(a):
Some weapons systems are still undefeated and can't be replaced, Iowa-class, F15s, A10s, and b52s.
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Don't forget the most powerful weapon of all:

The friends we made along the way...

Kidding. Craziest weapons system is probably the actual, real-life Hellbomb (yes, it exists you can google the Mark 54 SADM). Or just nukes in general. The Davy Crockett was wild but personally I like the W80, eh's a cute little guy and doesn't afraid of anything. Just imagine being able to fire off nuclear-tipped tomahawks if you were head of USA in a really terrible game of Civilization. Ghandi ain't got shit on that.
 
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