Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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draggs powiedział(a):

85 tankers either in CENTCOM already or in Europe (can be quickly moved to CENTCOM). That's enough to run Iran sorties 24/7 from the Lincoln and Ford and the land-based air

A half-dozen E-3s moving from the US to Europe along with more land-based fighter jets. They'll all be in CENTCOM very soon. Another 3 full squadrons of F-16s (48 planes) moved from Europe to CENTCOM. Almost 20 more F-35s. Another dozen F-22s coming

When the Churro Flotillo arrives in 3-4 days there will be something like ~400 land-based and carrier fighter jets (maybe more, maybe closer to 500) + 2 Growler squadrons + 6 E-3s, a U2, and dozens of tankers in theater

You don't bring this many dancers to the floor if someone ain't getting served
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Ohhh ffuuuukkkk were gonna see the Mullahs get Mulched

Or nothing happening

Oh and the USAF F-16CJ Wild Weasels are flying to the Gulf now...
 
Leylon Sneed powiedział(a):
Is Ford heading for the Gulf(Either Oman or Persian)? Couldn't they run operations from the Mediterranean? Especially with all those tankers currently in route?
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They could, but why would you want too? its needlessly complicated when you can just park the Ford south of Iran in the Gulf of Oman and do operations without tankers. Besides, the Tankers will be needed to bring in the real heavy hitters, which are the B-1, B-2, and B-52's.

There is also the unstated reason for why the USA sends two carriers for these sorts of things. On top of two being better then one, a big reason why you want two is if one gets sunk, the mission isn't an automatic failure. Sure, the odds of any US Carrier getting sunk is low, but its not so low as to be impossible. Iran "could" get lucky, and you don't want to leave the enemy the option of winning on a natural 20 roll of the dice with a Shahed swarm.
 
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Dharma bump powiedział(a):
I dont think they need the Ford to begin. I think it is there to obfuscate the timeline. Israel will be OK without it for a few days.
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/that's where you're wrong kiddo

In addition to bringing another 60-70 F-35Cs and Super Hornets, the most important thing the Ford is bringing is its Growler squadron. Every carrier has one. There's one with the Lincoln, one with the Ford, idk if they have one from one of the other carriers that is in homeport right now at one of the airbases (probably the airbase in Jordan if they do), but having two Growler squadrons is way better than one, having three is way better than two. Those Growlers are the absolutely must-have planes for doing anything, they're what's going to turn Iranian communications and radars into a trying to descramble the Spice Channel in 2001 adventure
mindlessobserver powiedział(a):
They could, but why would you want too? its needlessly complicated when you can just park the Ford south of Iran in the Gulf of Oman and do operations without tankers. Besides, the Tankers will be needed to bring in the real heavy hitters, which are the B-1, B-2, and B-52's.
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The Ford is going to the eastern Med. It would have turned south days ago if it were going around Africa to join up with the Lincoln. Whether a carrier is in the eastern Med or the Arabian Sea/Gulf of Oman, its planes are going to need aerial refueling for the Persian round trip. Maybe a refueling both on the way in and out
 
draggs powiedział(a):
The Ford is going to the eastern Med. It would have turned south days ago if it were going around Africa to join up with the Lincoln. Whether a carrier is in the eastern Med or the Arabian Sea/Gulf of Oman, its planes are going to need aerial refueling for the Persian round trip. Maybe a refueling both on the way in and out
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The Ford Class was specifically designed so it can transit the Suez Canal.

Egypt hates it like Muslims hate dogs though because the Ford takes the entire fucking canal over when it transits, but it can do it.

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mindlessobserver powiedział(a):
The Ford Class was specifically designed so it can transit the Suez Canal.

Egypt hates it like Muslims hate dogs though because the Ford takes the entire fucking canal over when it transits, but it can do it.

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I don't think the Ford is going to transit the canal because it would be much more vulnerable to Iranian and Houthi missiles while doing so. No room for maneuver and couldn't go anywhere near top speed either
 
draggs powiedział(a):
I don't think the Ford is going to transit the canal because it would be much more vulnerable to Iranian and Houthi missiles while doing so. No room for maneuver and couldn't go anywhere near top speed either
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They absolutely will. If Iran and the Houthis decide to shoot at an American Carrier in the face of this build up, all they will do is give Trump an excuse to outright declare war.
 
mindlessobserver powiedział(a):
They could, but why would you want too? its needlessly complicated
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Aren't there F22s there? I mean those girls haven't seen much action, I'm glad they're getting out before they get retired. It's not a long flight from the Eastern Med to Iran, and in Iraq the tankers just hung out, taking any callers. Plus it adds to Jordan to shoot down anything that is shot at Israel.
 
Crex Crex powiedział(a):
Of course, just steal the hamster powering Iran's govt servers.
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Maybe they should ask Josh for tips on maintaining uptime when under sustained attack. He's got plenty of experiencing maintaining uptime despite glow-ops, even ones that are possibly by the glowies themselves (see: Isabella Janke).
Burnt Fish powiedział(a):
In this short of order I wouldn't expect much impact due to Venezuela. Half of the problem with the country was that they were not doing anything with their oil and old American companies equipment was abandoned and not maintained. The oil in the ground in the country is huge, the amount they are equipped to extract at current is not and they can do very little to offset the disruption to global oil supply should Iran decide to start mining the straight (which is less of a question of IF they will and rather a question of WHEN)
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A relative of mine who was in the Navy and did a tour on a minesweeper ship in the Strait of Hormuz said the far bigger threat than mines were the Silkworm batteries all over the coastline. Can't even think about sending in minesweepers until those are taken out, and due to the fact they're so old and crappy the Iranians probably have a few thousand of them all acting as coastal interdiction weapons.
 
Onepumpplumpchump powiedział(a):
We will get strongly worded statements from China and Russia. China is more concerned on its ability to get oil from the region then the actual regime controlling it and I dont see that being an issue.
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China could be more concerned, but they import much of their oil from Saudi. China also knows that in a war over Taiwan, a blockade of China by the USN is inevitable. Russia is very well positioned to be the only petrochemical exporter to China if a war breaks out. That, alongside their food exports, gives the Russians immense weight in negotiations with China.
 
The Big A powiedział(a):
China could be more concerned, but they import much of their oil from Saudi. China also knows that in a war over Taiwan, a blockade of China by the USN is inevitable. Russia is very well positioned to be the only petrochemical exporter to China if a war breaks out. That, alongside their food exports, gives the Russians immense weight in negotiations with China.
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I honestly think if the U.S does strike
that it will be over quick, I am hearing like 90,000 Iranians are showing up to protests now. I think at least some opposition will be in place to take power within the first 48 hours after the strike. I don't think Irans missile launching capability will withstand constant bombardment. but in all honesty I think something gay will happen and we won't strike, hearing talks about concessions being made by Iran.
 
Onepumpplumpchump powiedział(a):
We will get strongly worded statements from China and Russia. China is more concerned on its ability to get oil from the region then the actual regime controlling it and I dont see that being an issue.
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The only thing China will do will be revving up their bots on reddit to spam about american imperialism.
 
According to OSNIT Defender on Twitter, the Pentagon is evacuating its personnel from the Middle East over the next few days to "safer" locations such as Europe. If this is true, it seems like the USA isn't fucking around this time.
 
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