What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

[AnOminous]

TPUSA's board has the co-author of the book MINDWAR - from PSYOP to Mindwar : A Psychology of Victory as a special advisor. Colonel Paul Valley co-wrote it with infamous Michael Aquino. Head of psychological warfare for Vietnam and the founder of the Temple of Set after he split from the Church of Satan and Anton LeVay for not being religiously Luciferian enough for his tastes.

He had a point about Paradise Lost, though.

Genuinely evil motherfucker. Responsible for a lot of the worst shit in modern society.

 

[Do Not Touch Me Pls]

TPUSA's board has the co-author of the book MINDWAR - from PSYOP to Mindwar : A Psychology of Victory as a special advisor. Colonel Paul Valley co-wrote it with infamous Michael Aquino. Head of psychological warfare for Vietnam and the founder of the Temple of Set after he split from the Church of Satan and Anton LeVay for not being religiously Luciferian enough for his tastes. Got embroiled in accusations of satanic ritual abuse of children at Presidio of San Francisco military base. Aquino also wrote awful Lord of the Rings fanfiction btw that glorifies Morgoth and Sauron as a Lucifer analogue lol. He also did a star wars fanfic. Explore Another World Created by Michael Aquino in His Book Morlindalë

If it is of any consolation then this indicates that just like with Epstein or Pol Pot a lot of the people doing the dirty work for the Elite are likely losers.

Not that you have to be very bright if your only objective is to rape and/or kill everything both literally and metaphorically. We're talking about people who cannot even take out Iran but has somehow turned the mass murder and torture of billions into an art form here.

 

[Yugica]

the feds have had voice changers for years. They faked the osama bin laden tapes, the ones without video, and that was almost 30 years ago. Sound manipulation is the realm of 90s computers, the technology has likely existed in laboratories running on mainframe computers going back to the bell labs era. Eve online added a voice changer as a feature in like 2004. Sound is not that much data to manipulate, a 12khz audio recording on a tape even less

I had ideas about how it shouldn't be, in theory, too hard to make a way to design a voice changer that can perfectly swap someone's voice with another. A lot of the voice changers you might find online before the resurgence of neural network stuff just would mess with the pitch from what I remember and I imagine neural networks have their voice changing work by trying to interpolate snippets of audio(which is kind of a fool's errand). The idea I had, that should work in theory, is to have a setup with a number of microphones arranged all of over the body of the speaker(a person, or in the case of conspiratorial aims an actor who can match the cadence and mannerisms of his/her target). You'd then make a function that'd take that recorded sound from the microphones attached to their body(plus positional data) and an external microphone recording them to replicate what the external microphone recorded purely from the attached ones. This is essentially simulating their spoken voice.

If you do that then you can mess around with your simulation and the data you collected to try and make it fit to what your target sounds like(like adjusting the time at which each microphone might hear any sound, shifting the pitch or adding filters to dampen or amplify certain frequencies). A really advanced model would likely have something like a 3D model of the speaker and the target and it would replicate even the motions of their bodies and even organs to better transform the audio, but you could just calibrate these things manually by having the speaker repeat what the target has said, as closely as possible, in a recording and use that as a reference until you get the replication and the original to match close enough.

I may be overexplaining it, but all of the physics at play here have been known for quite a while and understanding how sound is affected as it travels through your body utilizes the same principles that an ultrasound machine needs to function for imaging, although on lower frequencies and effectively in reverse.

And the Sun puts out most energy in green light. Apparently so much plants can't handle it.

Spoiler: Photosynthesis bits

There are actually a lot of photosynthesizers that utilize that green light(and thus look purple as they don't absorb the redder and bluer ends of the visible spectrum, here's one group and I'll refer to them as "purple photosynthesizers") and they're hypothesized to have come about before the green photosynthesizers that are dominant today. It's called the "Purple Earth Hypothesis" and the key points supporting it are:

• The mechanism that purple photosynthesizers use is simpler and thus likelier to have evolved first(they use retinal, which our vision is also based on too)
• It makes sense for photosynthesis to evolve to first take advantage of the most abundant part of the spectrum of light available to them as that'd confer the greatest and most immediate advantage
• Existing purple photosynthesizers are extremophiles that can live anaerobically(which the Earth was far in the past) and the logic is that they were driven to be such by oxygenic, green photosynthesizers who wiped most of them out

Plants and other green photosynthesizers definitely could handle taking in green light though at places further from the equator(like the poles), without even having to adjust their biology much if it's a matter of them not being able to handle the amount of said light. You can also imagine how advantageous it'd be if they could photosynthesize green light when they're in the undergrowth as that becomes the most available light to them. In a way, they kind of can make use of that green light via the usage of pigments that can convert it, although I imagine there's a number of reasons as to why that's seemingly not done so much.

The implication of that hypothesis is very cool to me though and it's that green photosynthesizers later evolved to use what the purple ones didn't and that eventually they completely drove them off later on and thus the reason that we have green plants over purple ones is because of that ancient shift.
It also means that we could make retinal photosynthesis-based plants with just a little bit of genetic engineering

To back up the reasons behind why they would inject kids blood and eat them, have some studies:

I think if they were going to use the blood and such for improving their own health or to slow/reverse aging then they would've had molecular biolabs just cranking out the stuff they're after or keeping the children as blood farms. I do agree that they were likely doing extremely fucked up things to those kids, but the reason that they do it is simpler and more timeless in my mind:

• Power-hungry, psychopathic people are the most desirous of positions of authority/power and they're the most willing to do immoral acts to get there at all costs. Said people are by their very nature sadistic and manipulative.
• The idea of kompromat and that those individuals you have blackmail on are thus leashed and at your beck and call. You broaden your control and power by finding sick fuckers you have this kompromat on and putting them into positions of power and then leveraging them to get more and more of them into other positions to do your bidding.
• When you're filthy fucking rich all of the legal, hedonistic pleasures quickly lose their 'oomph' and like a coomer they're drawn to more and more illegal pleasures to fill the void where their hearts and dignity should be.

Also, I think the files have been teased out and released as much as they have now because the value of that blackmail is going to collapse when AI videos get good enough(arguably they're good enough now to fool maybe half of all people, or more). This is just a way of getting rid of loose ends, those former dogs in positions of power who would otherwise have a greater degree of freedom and could act on their own. I think it's notable that Bill Gates got a good spotlight because of these releases and that some of the files also showed a discontent from Epstein to Bill about him not backing him up -- almost like he was already straying from the control of the group Epstein belonged to or had at least proven himself to not be so reliable a puppet.

 

[Male Idiot]

Public teansport only works if you have 3 qualities:
-No niggers.
-No rapejeets/other assorted rapy browns.
-Money to maintain it from taxes.

Japan is a good example.

In Hungary it is safe, but it is mildly expensive, sometimes 30 minutes late...

 

[Ron Jeremy Stan Account]

I'm very in favor of public transit, myself, however, I am not blind to the fact that if we were to establish functioning subway systems in most of our cities (ESPECIALLY the medium and small cities, and basically any city in the Southwest), it wouldn't just require all the investment of building the system, but also rebuilding the entire city around it. Just imagine trying to plop down a little subway somewhere with intense suburban sprawl. What good would it even do? You get off the line and have to walk another 3 miles to your suburban household?

I think the best place to start is increasing the density of our cities, most every town and city in America actually has pretty good bones due to the simple grid system most of them were founded on, so it shouldn't really be that hard, but it would require a lot of direct investment, and the only way it could really be done is if the government instituted a program to do it, and I'd say there's a snowball's chance in hell that happens in this political climate. But if that's unlikely, then the chances that cities will get large-scale private investment in inner city development is impossible.

So I guess the best place to start is total socio-economic-political reform on a national level? Should be pretty easy, I bet we can get it done before the midterms. At the very least, I want high speed rail lines BETWEEN cities to finally get off the ground, once that happens, we could feasibly make it so you could travel the country in a couple of days. I'd love to see the day.

 

[Overly Serious]

Let's keep in mind with all the Osama bin Laden fake stuff that if you control the media you don't need to pull off the perfect simulacrum. I could do a terrible Saudi accent and if the MSM said I was bin Laden then 90% of people would believe it and call anyone saying "his voice sounds different to existing recordings" a nut without even listening to it. They could do the same with any number of Middle Eastern actors for video too. And few Westerners read foreign news. The entire Middle East could be saying "that's not him" and it would barely reach the West. Hell, the entirety of Afghanistan knew perfectly well that the USA was backing opium producers and child molesters and yet only this past week do we get anything close to Western coverage of what any Afghan man could tell you. And that too will soon be buried.

TBC, I think it is entirely plausible that some of the recordings were faked. I also think it pretty unlikely that he was killed that night and his body dumped at sea. My point is that when you control the media you rarely need perfection. The former head of the OPCW (Office for Prevention of Chemical Weapons) is on video stating that John Bolton directly threatened his children Mafia style to his face if he didn't go along with the US narrative on Assad's "chemical weapons attack" in Syria. Epstein almost certainly didn't kill himself, And covid didn't happen because of a fucking pangolin.

If you control the media, and if people listen to that media, you not only determine what many people believe but you control what almost everybody talks about. I keep seeing news stories about some guy called "Bad Bunny" and endless little things written to imply that if you've never heard of him (like the vast majority of people hadn't) that you're the one who is out of touch. But who gives a fuck? It's just the latest thing to get you looking at and talking about whilst other things are done.

The media isn't necessarily there to inform or even misinform - it's often just there to get you looking in the the preferred direction. And propaganda isn't necessarily an effort to get you to believe something. It also has the purpose of telling you what is acceptable to believe... and what is not.

A comedienne can dress up as Sarah Palin, make a dumb statement and half of America believes Ms. Palin said she could see Russia from her porch word for word. Jimmy Kimmel can say that Trump told people to inject bleach into their veins or praised White Nationalism on national TV and people believe it. All the talk about how you could fake Bin Laden is pretty much accurate - they could. But most people wouldn't even check and they have ways of punishing those who do.

Spoiler: Osama Bin Laden announcing his responsibility for 9/11

 

[Jean ValJean]

In Hungary it is safe, but it is mildly expensive, sometimes 30 minutes late...

I lived in Hungary for two years in the early 90s and their public transport system was great, at least where I lived. I lived outside the city (Budapest), and taking it to work was a matter of walking one block to a bus stop, taking the bus to the metro station (5 min), hopping on the metro for 3 stops, then walking two blocks to my job. Seldom was it ever late, and then not more than a few minutes.

 

[Knee Heel No Womb]

A comedienne can dress up as Sarah Palin, make a dumb statement and half of America believes Ms. Palin said she could see Russia from her porch word for word.

Is that not true? Don't tell me I've been bamboozled again

 

[big pauper]

A lot of the voice changers you might find online before the resurgence of neural network stuff just would mess with the pitch from what I remember and I imagine neural networks have their voice changing work by trying to interpolate snippets of audio

Autotune came out in 1997, as a finished product. Eve online had a real time voice changer in like 2007 that would pretty convincingly change a male voice to a female voice and it didn't require some kind of giant microphone rig. People have been using voice changers in online games for years and this isn't some kind of untapped field it's just occulted because it's not a mass market product. Even the fact that we're calling it a "voice changer" is a tell because the professional software that did this stuff for movies and audio mastering 20, 30 years ago wouldn't call itself a "voice changer." Hell, i wouldn't be surprised if most user accessible software of this type was written as VSTs (virtual instruments) because those plugins are literally software defined signal processors for real time audio manipulation. (i googled it and yes that's how it is)

 

[Overly Serious]

Is that not true? Don't tell me I've been bamboozled again

Sarah Palin had someone attacking her in an interview about international politics, I forget the details but I think something about how being governor of Alaska didn't prepare you for dealing with Russia, etc. To which Palin responded that Alaska was on Russia's doorstep and that you could literally see Russia from parts of Alaska. Again, I don't recall all the details but that last part is what she actually said, and it's true - you can.

Tina Fey, SNL favourite, dressed up as Palin and said "I can see Russia from my porch" to mock her. At the time, I think there was real concern amongst the Left's bigwigs that Palin on a VP ticket might be a winner. The comment was astroturfed to Hell and back and Palin was mocked over and over for something she never even said. I remember all the attacks on her because at the time I could still be shocked by people's adherence to what they wanted to hear over the truth. I got into a conversation on YouTube (that's how foolish I was) where I pointed out it was false and nobody cared. They loved to repeat the line about her almost fanatically. It was the most bizarre thing. I got into a conversation with a friend who was very intelligent and she was insistent that Palin was a moron. I pointed out that she had successfully out-competed other pretty established candidates for the position of governor and whilst I didn't know how smart she actually might be, seemed unlikely she wasn't reasonably smart. Hell, there was also a minor stumble in an interview which was played over and over as well and all I thought was that if there were hundreds of hours of interview footage of me, much of it live, I'd be grateful if the best they could get was one minor verbal stumble. But absolutely unshakeable - this person despite being smart in almost every other way just couldn't shake from this belief that Palin was, not merely not James Watson, but an actual idiot.

It's weird to run into. I had the same with someone about Trump's "praising White Nationalists" and "injecting bleach". This person, a relatively normal functioning human being, outright clung to her false version of what Trump had said even when I played the actual video for her. I mean this exactly as I say it: I played the actual video, she insisted that he still said something he plainly did not.

That's why I say that I could dress up in brownface and speak like John Belushi in The Blues Brothers saying "I waaantt to buy your weemeen" and if the media said I was bin Laden, half the country would believe it.

Could they fake him in this time period? Yes. Did they? Quite possibly. But the idea that there needs to be some flawless version that you can't tell, nope. Not for their purposes, anyway. Hell, Britain's legal case for war was a Phd student's dubious speculation. And the person most able to shoot down the case (Dr. David Kelly) was murdered and framed as a suicide with the State's full sanction.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

It's weird to run into. I had the same with someone about Trump's "praising White Nationalists" and "injecting bleach". This person, a relatively normal functioning human being, outright clung to her false version of what Trump had said even when I played the actual video for her. I mean this exactly as I say it: I played the actual video, she insisted that he still said something he plainly did not.

The life of Jordan Peterson. People hate that guy for reasons that they make up in their head. I've never understood nor had a good answer to, why an anti-peterson person would hate him. They call him a nazi for saying xyz that he never said and the quote they reference is taken out of context and edited to the point where it's literally a sound bite that they extrapolate to make him sound like a tranny-hating, nazi-worshiping, white supremacist.

The only way I can logically explain it is...do you remember the image floating around facebook about 15 years ago, of the dress that was blue/gold and white/green (i think were the colours) and people saw one colour or the other and swore blind it couldn't be anything else?
I wonder if we can tap into the auditory version of that (we can, there's a tedtalk on it) and people are being riled up and divided using this technique?

 

[Knee Heel No Womb]

At the time, I think there was real concern amongst the Left's bigwigs that Palin on a VP ticket might be a winner.

It's crazy to think dems thought there was any chance of a loss at all when they were going up against McCain and 8 years of Bush Jr. I also remember a lot of pearl clutching about Palin's daughter being impregnated out of wedlock. It's very weird, especially in retrospect, to think how many people were participating in anti-Palin moral panic while sweeping for the rainbow coalition.

I wonder if we can tap into the auditory version of that (we can, there's a tedtalk on it) and people are being riled up and divided using this technique?

There is! I'm convinced that 99% of what you're talking about is bandwagoning. Logic and principles don't matter, because what those people are actually trying to do is join the winning side. If you really want to win those people over, all you have to do is display power (of any kind) and communicate that your power is stable.

 

[Jean ValJean]

It's weird to run into. I had the same with someone about Trump's "praising White Nationalists" and "injecting bleach". This person, a relatively normal functioning human being, outright clung to her false version of what Trump had said even when I played the actual video for her. I mean this exactly as I say it: I played the actual video, she insisted that he still said something he plainly did not.

I remember the whole Sarah Palin thing, as well as "Trump wants you to drink bleach" (yes, that's what I heard people repeat). A lot of it is just lazy stupidity and TDS to the point where they just want to believe anything bad they hear, true or not.

The other part is worse: most people are so invested in believing that they are smarter than the average person - that they're "independent thinkers who don't follow the crowd" that they will never admit that they were wrong or ignorant about something.

The life of Jordan Peterson. People hate that guy for reasons that they make up in their head. I've never understood nor had a good answer to, why an anti-peterson person would hate him. They call him a nazi for saying xyz that he never said and the quote they reference is taken out of context and edited to the point where it's literally a sound bite that they extrapolate to make him sound like a tranny-hating, nazi-worshiping, white supremacist.

See also: Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, Charlie Kirk, Matt Walsh, et al.

 

[Overly Serious]

The other part is worse: most people are so invested in believing that they are smarter than the average person - that they're "independent thinkers who don't follow the crowd" that they will never admit that they were wrong or ignorant about something.

The amount of effort on the part of mainstream culture to present itself as the counter-culture and as rebels, is hilarious to me (when I'm inclined to find such things hilarious). I guess it's the consequence of so much media desperately trying to present "rebels" as heroes throughout films and TV shows. Yes you are the rebels/cool kids/free thinkers/anti-Establishment/punks, etc.

It's funny how I can show up to an office in a button up shirt and a tie (if I choose) and have almost an entire building of people dressed in t-shirts consider me a conformist because of it.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

There is! I'm convinced that 99% of what you're talking about is bandwagoning. Logic and principles don't matter, because what those people are actually trying to do is join the winning side. If you really want to win those people over, all you have to do is display power (of any kind) and communicate that your power is stable.

The tedtalk I saw was filmed during the brexit refferendom, and the speaker was talking about how our brain-state affects what we see/hear. Ever been in a rush to work and light seems to be red? Then a day you're not in a rush every light seems green? Brain states.

Anyway, he plays a muffled audio sound, like an auditory Roschard test, and he asks the audience what they thought they heard. 90% say they heard "fuck Brexit". When he unmuffled the audio it actually said "for breakfast" (or something very similar).

In the correct conditions we could have an audience hear one thing, and believe they've heard something completely different. Chuck in the Stamford and Milgram experiments and you could cause some carnage among the plebs.

 

[Do Not Touch Me Pls]

The amount of effort on the part of mainstream culture to present itself as the counter-culture and as rebels, is hilarious to me (when I'm inclined to find such things hilarious). I guess it's the consequence of so much media desperately trying to present "rebels" as heroes throughout films and TV shows. Yes you are the rebels/cool kids/free thinkers/anti-Establishment/punks, etc.

Rebellion is always part of the NWO plan. Remember their entire schitck is to destroy the old and replace it with the new (that they can easily take control of).

Also there's a LOT of predictive programming in Hollywood even a decade ago. The Hunger Games is one such example.

They want people to go out and riot and destroy the status quo so they could rebuild it.

 

[Knee Heel No Womb]

Chuck in the Stamford and Milgram experiments and you could cause some carnage among the plebs.

FYI, Stanford Experiment is propaganda. In fact, basically every example Cialdini used in his book is either made up or intentionally miscommunicated. You might say, he exerted influence upon his readers.

 

[PandaChai]

when I'm inclined to find such things hilarious

It's either laugh or cry!
What's that Voltaire quote? I have only prayed once to God, that He make my enemies fools, and He has granted it.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

FYI, Stanford Experiment is propaganda. In fact, basically every example Cialdini used in his book is either made up or intentionally miscommunicated. You might say, he exerted influence upon his readers.

I've seen people say it was fake or not a real outcome and maybe to some degrees there is, but the underlying concept of "people take the form of roleplay you put them in" is real.

Cialdini is right in what he says and his examples do work in the real world. However, you have to read it and understand it through the lens of americanised techniques and customer base - for the people who are buying products that Cialdini uses as examples.

One of the biggest modern day lies, is that the masters of psychology were liars. Indeed, that all masters of science in their respective fields; archaeology, geology, zoology, anthropology, were all correct and the modern media has vilified them to hide the knowledge from the common man.

Which comes back to Peterson. He must, for the good of control and balance of power, be labelled as a whack-job, nutter, or any nasty -ist and -ism there is because his words are those of the older generations, those whose studies were held up as known knowns up until very recently.

 

[Overly Serious]

FYI, Stanford Experiment is propaganda. In fact, basically every example Cialdini used in his book is either made up or intentionally miscommunicated. You might say, he exerted influence upon his readers.

The story of Kitty Genovese used by Alan Moore as part of the backstory of the character Rorschach, was also apparently false, or at least wildly exaggerated in terms of the number of witnesses. 37 people did not stand by and do nothing. The effect is real, I've seen people turn and look away, but there are a lot of good people out there.

I also dislike Alan Moore using the eating of baked beans directly from the tin as an indication of being disturbed too. But that's for more, um, personal reasons... That indicates nothing.