US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Current members of the House of Representatives
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Members of the Trump Administration
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I don’t know what world anyone else is living in, if I am trying to subdue a belligerent and I hear people yell gun followed by a shot I am shooting that belligerent hands down every time that just seems like a rational goddam reaction in case of 90% of the possibilities of what could be happening. If I am wrong well at least I am alive to be wrong.
 
Kermit Jizz powiedział(a):
Most of them will unironically say stupid shit like "cops knew they were taking a risky job so they should have just accepted the risk it might have been a gun!". Because they just want you to rollover and die.
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I think I am more sympathetic than others to the idea of what they are suggesting than others but they are obviously being disingenuous faggots about it and expecting police to literally just be lemmings to the slaughter instead of practicing good judgment and reacting with appropriate force to the situation. Because yes they think 100 cops dying is better than 1 innocent dying.
 
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He is correct though, as degenerate as he is
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he's not though, as far as i'm concerned it was 100 percent a justified state sanctioned execution. if he cared more about his own people than he did some nameless stranger, he wouldn't have been there. Traitors like him do not get any sort of empathy whatsoever.
 
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It was the only way to get the South to join the Union.
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Are you referring to the Civil War Amendments? The 14th one (Birthright Citizenship through the Citizenship Clause, Due Process Clause, Equal Protection Clause, Privileges or Immunities Clause) which everyone in the thread knows and loves was made mandatory for former Confederate states to ratify by Congress through the Reconstruction Acts in order to properly rejoin the United States. Until that time, the reconstructed governments established under Lincoln and Johnson would function under military oversight without congressional approval.
 
Blewberry Nausea powiedział(a):
I think I am more sympathetic than others to the idea of what they are suggesting than others but they are obviously being disingenuous faggots about it and expecting police to literally just be lemmings to the slaughter instead of practicing good judgment and reacting with appropriate force to the situation. Because yes they think 100 cops dying is better than 1 innocent dying.
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I’m curious. What is your experience with firearms? Have you done any kind of ‘running and gunning’ type exercises?
 
I wish I wasn’t banned from TES because for once I wasn’t going to troll them. I think I can rationalize with them. The reason they get annoyed by the ICE link at the top of the page is because they have to scroll by it every time they come to the site. Even on mobile.

But Null has made his position very clear in the past, and he is explaining it yet again today. His stance hasn’t changed in 10 years, and he likely never will. It’s very simple: he hates browns. And any effort that goes to removing them or harming them in any way, he is almost automatically for.

I would try to tell them “think about what ICE is doing rather than who ICE works for.” That’s what they need to separate in their heads. Because removal of moochers is absolutely good for Americans AND Europeans as well, because it shows them a roadmap they can take if they ever choose to.

Is it a political victory for Trump? Sure. But it works out for everyone, it isn’t some “dunk” on the left unless they have sweat shops or something.
 
Breadbassket powiedział(a):
Are you referring to the Civil War Amendments? The 14th one (Birthright Citizenship through the Citizenship Clause, Due Process Clause, Equal Protection Clause, Privileges or Immunities Clause) which everyone in the thread knows and loves was made mandatory for former Confederate states by Congress through the Reconstruction Acts in order to rejoin the United States. Until that time, the reconstructed governments established under Lincoln and Johnson would continue to function subject to military oversight and without congressional approval.
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No, I'm referring to the apportionment clause:

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.
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All free persons count, including indentured servants, and all nonfree persons get 3/5 count. So the concept of noncitizens (slaves weren't citizens) counting for apportionment goes back to the founding and the South having a mass of noncitizen labor and still thinking they should get more House representatives because of that.
 
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