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How liberals think guns work according to movies:
  • You can shoot sideways and still have accurate shots
  • The gun always has a full magazine, and you don’t have to spend time loading more bullets between gun fights
  • You can just pick up a gun and have perfect accuracy with it, no need to go to a gun range to practice
  • All black rifles = assault rifles (and every rifle is an AR-15)
  • All small pistols, especially if black = glock
  • You can have a 1 v 5 gun fight and come out alive with little to no injuries
  • You don’t have to worry about a bullet ricochet and injuring yourself
  • Recoil after shooting a shotgun won’t give you a bruise
There’s probably more, but these are what I could think of off the top of my head. The infinite magazine is probably the most common inaccuracy I see with gun depictions in movies.
Guns are way louder in real life than they're portrayed in movies. Take someone who has never been near a gun before to a range and even with hearing protection they get jumpscared. (No shame. Just something you have to get used to.)
 
A lot of leftists are caught up in the romance of historical socialist and communist movements, so they seek to copy them. It doesn't matter whether a general strike would be effective or not; it's just what socialists and commies do.
It's always fun to PLAY revolutionary, because these people suffer from main character syndrome and don't realize that they can be fucking air holed at a moment's notice.
They don't think anything through, they can only see one step in front of them instead of their entire future, which is why so many of them carelessly risk their careers and the rest of their lives, literally and figuratively.
It doesn't dawn on them that there are permanent consequences to being a fucking nutter until God is giving them a curtain call or they are sitting in a fucking jail cell.
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The only people I give a shit about irl are my family, myself, and a handful of my closest bros.

The concept of caring deeply about some random foreign rapist is genuinely incomprehensible to me.
I mean don't get me wrong I have a deep empathy and care about every single White European that isn't a race traitor, but I'm not going to be the dummy who brings a pistol to a fucking federal investigation for you mother fuckers lmao.
It probably stems from the fact that when I was little my mom taught me with her palm that being fucking stupid was painful.
 
Guns are way louder in real life than they're portrayed in movies. Take someone who has never been near a gun before to a range and even with hearing protection they get jumpscared. (No shame. Just something you have to get used to.)
Yeah, I’ve legit heard liberals think gun silencers actually make gunshots silent, when it can only muffle the sound at best. I’ve never shot a gun with a silencer, but from what I’ve heard, it makes gun accuracy worse.
 
I know these aren't going to trial, but still a very relevant supreme court ruling way back in 1989, Graham v. Conner


Short summary:

It was involving a black man (Graham) having a diabetic reaction, going into a store to get orange juice for his sugar levels, realizing the line was too long to wait for, then leaving to go back into a car with his friend as the driver. A nearby police officer from his perspective sees Graham go into a store then leaving shortly after with a driver waiting. He thinks a robbery was just committed and pulled them over. Backup is called, Graham starts having a reaction to his sugar levels and appears drunk. The officers detain him and in the process, injure his shoulder, breaks his foot, etc. They realize that there was no crime committed and let them go. Graham sues the police for excessive force and racism. He loses, appeals all the way to supreme court with the question: Must Graham’s claim that the police used excessive force be examined under the Fourth Amendment’s “objective reasonableness” standard? (as opposed to a "good faith of the officer" or the reverse "racist cops beat the shit out of some black guy" )

The court ruled that yes it must be under the fourth amendment. This established the idea of "the reasonable officer" and the Graham Standard: Would a reasonable officer have used this much force in this instance? Graham goes back to the lower court and sues again for excessive force under the idea of a reasonable officer. He then loses the case for excessive force.

This is the "officer gets acquitted for shooting an unarmed black kid" rule. Because as a juror, you are instructed "You cannot base the officers actions on hindsight, racism, etc. You have to look at the exact moment of the shooting, not the moments that led up to the shooting." And juries rule in favor of the officer. because when you ask: Would a reasonable officer have acted the way he acted in this situation? In Graham v Conner, Yes. The officer knew nothing of the orange juice, if he was diabetic, if the driver was lying, etc. So they detained him and "used proper force."

In the case of a black kid with a toy gun or sometimes nothing getting killed? Yes, a reasonable officer would shoot the black kid. He doesn't know he has a gun. He only sees the kid holding what looks like a gun or reaching for his waist thinking it was a gun.

So lets ask the question, would a reasonable officer have done what these officers did? You can't look at "he didn't have the gun" or "these were ICE officers and the killed man is a protestor." you have to look at the exact moment of the shooting. The officer saw this man reaching for what he thinks is a gun, and shoots him fearing for his live or the safety of others. With these videos, you are seeing a billion different angels with slow downs and all the info that works completely fine in hindsight. These officers dont know any of that. They see a man resisting, sees what appears to be a gun and fire away.

You can carbon copy this directly into the Renee Good case. It doesn't matter if she was trying to just get away, if she was trying to run him over, if this was ICE versus protestors, even when people learned the officer was struck by a car previously, and even if she did or did not hit the officer. You have to look at it from the perspective of the officer. He seeing a woman driving her car at him and did what any reasonable officer would do, which is to shoot the person who they think is attempting to run them over or kill them.

The most important thing to remember is that any time a police officer is acquitted for killing someone, just know that its because back in the 80's, a black man was beat to shit by cops, appeals all the way to the supreme court, and wins his supreme court case which gave the police their defense for killing people in these types of shootings. And the black man got nothing but beat to shit.
 
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Okay, now the liberal I know is moving goal posts. She admits there was a weapon, but still calls this a murder:
Women shouldn't be allowed on the internet if they're going to follow distressing content too big for their mommy brains. Like they legitimately lack the theory of mind or capacity for understanding so many things. It's just a constant bombardment to their mommy brain system that they truly can't handle.

They are incapable of going logic/reasoning first, then emotion, because they're terrible at assessing second and third-order thinking. It's only what's right in front of them. An it's often only the end result since it's that negativity that overshadows everything else due to their high neuroticism.

It'll only result in insane emotional recoiling like, "THIS WASN'T FAIR!", "YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO KILL HIM!", "SHOOTING PEOPLE = BAD, SO NOBODY SHOULD HAVE GUNS!" It's basically excellent for a kindergarten class or teaching your toddler, but retarded for worldly events.

Is she hot, at least?
 
I guess you could say he's Pretti alright...
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Pretti gay...

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*guitar riff* "OHHHHHHHH....."
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LOL, man knew how to take a picture when it counted, at least. Or whoever that guy is lol. I don't think the archived IG from the Farmer is the right guy. We should all have a designated "better looking guy with the same name" picked before we die. Leftoidpedia already doing their thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alex_Pretti
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Looks like Alex...

😎

is Pretti fucking dead.

 
Idk I think if you approach law enforcement with a loaded gun, with the intent of harming them, you deserve to find out to the full extent of causality.

Crazy how we don't see ICE unloading on innocent people who aren't actively trying to kill them.
 
Idk I think if you approach law enforcement with a loaded gun, with the intent of harming them, you deserve to find out to the full extent of causality.

Crazy how we don't see ICE unloading on innocent people who aren't actively trying to kill them.
As always, leftoids are living in backwardsville. This is legitimately an example of, "He had no business being there." For all the reasons that didn't apply to The Kenosha Kid, they apply to these faggots.
 
Idk I think if you approach law enforcement with a loaded gun, with the intent of harming them, you deserve to find out to the full extent of causality.

Crazy how we don't see ICE unloading on innocent people who aren't actively trying to kill them.
with a loaded gun in his waistband? He shouldn't have fought the cops trying to arrest him, but just having a gun in your waistband does not equal intent to hurt them.
 
with a loaded gun in his waistband? He shouldn't have fought the cops trying to arrest him, but just having a gun in your waistband does not equal intent to hurt them.
I just want to point out that this is the same thing we make fun of niggers for in the bodycam thread.

Complete low impulse bad decision control and lack of foresight for consequences.
 
Crazy how we don't see ICE unloading on innocent people who aren't actively trying to kill them.
That's the argument I've been making this entire time. It's funny how the one guy who got shot while violently resisting arrest had an unholstered gun on the ground when the smoke cleared.
What a fucking coinkydink, fella. It's almost like the cops, I don't know... knew he had a gun or something.
 
with a loaded gun in his waistband? He shouldn't have fought the cops trying to arrest him, but just having a gun in your waistband does not equal intent to hurt them.
Are you autistic to context? Nigger wasn't just minding his own business while openly carrying and just going about his day like normal.
And not only was he there to cause trouble, this retard fought arrest while carrying a gun.
How tf are you defending this?
 
That's the argument I've been making this entire time. It's funny how the one guy who got shot while violently resisting arrest had an unholstered gun on the ground when the smoke cleared.
What a fucking coinkydink, fella. It's almost like the cops, I don't know... knew he had a gun or something.
It wasn't on the ground. They disarmed him before he was shot. You can literally watch this guy grab it from his waistband and then walk away with it before the first shot:

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