AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

Like should AI be treated as a valid way to train for competative gooning, or should it be treated like steroids and banned from any competition.
The difference between a gooner and a porn addict is that one has stamina. Gooning isn't the porn, gooning is how hard you can wank before your cock starts to chafe. To a gooner the porn is just the clothing for an athlete, surface level and unimpressive compared to the physical feat. '@grok bikini please' is the most gooner shit you can do, much more goonery than civitai futa cock vore.
I never got this. do people genuinely prefer grok over other ai?? Like just curious ig
You can't @chatgpt add israel flag. It's that simple. Grok will add that sort of stuff and is taggable. It's not about people liking grok, they could get the same result in photoshop in seconds. It's about pissing people off who hate jews and ai. Tagging a bot on twitter is the quickest way to achieve that.
 
The difference between a gooner and a porn addict is that one has stamina. Gooning isn't the porn, gooning is how hard you can wank before your cock starts to chafe. To a gooner the porn is just the clothing for an athlete, surface level and unimpressive compared to the physical feat. '@grok bikini please' is the most gooner shit you can do, much more goonery than civitai futa cock vore.

You can't @chatgpt add israel flag. It's that simple. Grok will add that sort of stuff and is taggable. It's not about people liking grok, they could get the same result in photoshop in seconds. It's about pissing people off who hate jews and ai. Tagging a bot on twitter is the quickest way to achieve that.
Ahhhh okie
 
I'm just asking you guys to be productive. Like should AI be treated as a valid way to train for competative gooning, or should it be treated like steroids and banned from any competition.
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I mean. If there's a competition I'm pretty sure all porn is a performance enhancing drug.
I've been noticing how retarded people who dedicate their whole or part of personality to being anti ai. It can be just regular retardation or lack of social skills.There is a xitter account I've been following whose whole point is to bait as many anti-ai and or other types of spergs and I just wanted to share this gem.

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An example of the posts you can expect from this account:
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You'll think no one will fall for obvious bate like this, but A LOT OF THEM ACTUALLY DO.
Here is some of them.
Eventually you have to realize that half of them are bots. Which means half of them are in fact that mentally deranged they still think Twitter is a real place. All of the people should log off and only use Twitter as a source for selling gay furry foot porn or whatever they draw for cash. But they don't.
 
There's a huge difference between using technology to produce artificial nudes of someone (ESPECIALLY if you distribute those images publicly), and simply being perverted and using your imagination (and that is bad enough)
Did you just say that it's bad enough to imagine someone naked?

Holy fuck this discussion is full of the most puritanical retarded beta cucks. Can't even imagine a chick being naked without you dickless retards being offended.

I hope you go extinct.
 
I can imagine the change came from other trannies irate protest over the usage of AI once it became vogue to be ape-ish retards about it.
I distinctly remember this video from the creator where xhe was considering hiring voice actors due to being scared shitless of the potential backlash for using AI voices (something was perfectly acceptable to the troon mob years prior despite the methods for producing such voices not changing), but also being scared shitless of not being able to pay said voice actors a HECKING LIVING WAGE and being racked over the coals for that as well. You could audibly hear the anxiety and paranoia in xer voice as doing anything that contradicts the values of those "wholesome old World Wide Web™" circles would result in immediate ostracization. I wish I could find the video but it appears to be lost, or maybe it was on xer Patreon or something.

The whole "old internet" craze with younger zoomers is extremely fake and gay anyways. It's all playing dress up with the aesthetic but still engaging in the behaviors that make the nu-internet so unbearable. This is all you need to see of LOVEWEB to know this person has no idea what the fuck xhe's talking about.


It's the same shallow, surface level commentary you see every other midwit YouTuber make about how the EVIL big businesses are why the internet is shit now, which does have some truth to it, don't get me wrong, but it steers clear of explaining exactly WHY the big business made the internet unusable. Notice however that the one commonly cited reason as the why the Internet went to shit, that being CENSORSHIP, is conveniently ignored in this video while the pony character starts to yap about the evils of capitalism.
 
The whole "old internet" craze with younger zoomers is extremely fake and gay anyways. It's all playing dress up with the aesthetic but still engaging in the behaviors that make the nu-internet so unbearable.

They want a nostalgia for something they never had with the political correctness of the present
 
The whole "old internet" craze with younger zoomers is extremely fake and gay anyways. It's all playing dress up with the aesthetic but still engaging in the behaviors that make the nu-internet so unbearable
Yea early internet was quirky graphics and zany uis. And totally not an infuriating mess that needed you to navigate from one website to another 50 times before finding what you wanted to see and full of cartel torture videos that you just randomly found. It was just wacky little dolphin images and tamagochis and definitely not 10kbps dialup and full of viruses that would brick your computer if you clicked one thing wrong. Imagine going yea I wish I could have lived through the 60s and all that and you ask why and instead of the golden age for the arts and acid and homeownership they tell you they just want to have a mullet.
 
"No Patrick, hating AI isn't a personality"

Carpenter Brut (he did the Hotline Miami soundtrack if the name isn't familiar) used AI in his new video a few days ago and I would say 99 percent of the comments are just melting down about it. This is getting pretty goofy. AI witchhunts just look like Reddit gold farming to me.
 
Anyone ITT who thinks there isn't some amount of a market bubble with AI also has AIDS. OpenAI's business model obviously isn't sustainable, and I don't know why anyone would think that providing flagship LLMs for free would be.
Someday there is going to be a major market correction and it'll force all these AI companies to focus on profitability rather than harvesting investor funds to subsidize AI models for the masses. Many companies may not survive such a correction, like the ones that failed during the dotcom crash, but many will. Where antis go wrong is assuming a crash will wipe AI from the face of the earth, but people will still be using image models and LLMs.
 
Someday there is going to be a major market correction and it'll force all these AI companies to focus on profitability rather than harvesting investor funds to subsidize AI models for the masses.
What's interesting though is that the valuations of these companies don't match the dotcom bubble. Their PE ratios are like 50|1 while the dot com days had valuations like 200|1. And the giants from that era are still with us 25 years later and used the same 'become the biggest fish' tactics. I also keep hearing about improvements on the software side of things to make the LLMs more efficient so presumably they can halt the extraordinary capex and still get gains in performance through better model design.

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The following has been a little trend on Xitter for a week or so now:

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I decided 'well why not; Grok...'

Long story short, I now tell it to ask me one question about whatever, once in a while, as a form of payback for all the info it synthesizes for me eg. Q: Mr. Asbestos, why were you asking me about Seinfeld episodes? A: old TV chills me out before a big exam. What's interesting is unlike every other interaction I have with the LLM. If I let it ask one direct question of its own generation, it stops engagement-baiting me. It just wishes me luck on my exam, where normally it'd be like 'oh what are you studying? Do you need cliff notes? Is it a moment of truth?' yada yada yada.

idk if it has a quota for familiarity and just letting it ask something point-blank fills it immediately or what, but it's an interesting change considering I didn't explicitly tell it to behave that way.
 
Did you just say that it's bad enough to imagine someone naked?

Holy fuck this discussion is full of the most puritanical retarded beta cucks. Can't even imagine a chick being naked without you dickless retards being offended.

I hope you go extinct.
I said i like pancakes. Go back to Twitter where thinking that means I hate waffles is acceptable.

Porn and lewd thoughts are bad. But that doesn't mean they should be illegal. However child porn and unsolicited porn are bad because real harm can come to the people involved. There's a difference between saying all lewdness is bad but nobody is sinless so there's levels of putting up with things we're willing to do and puritanical burn it at the stake if he thinks about a sausage and giggles.

I don't have to hope you go extinct. The fact I have to explain basic logic to you means you went to school at the quality learing center.

Now to bring this back to AI derangement. I saw a council of geeks episode on ai and I kinda wanna train a LoRA on my pc live just to fuck with him and all the others for promoting that nightshade bs. As well as demonstrate that it is indeed just noise. Unsure if I should train qwen image or ltx2. Which do you think would be better? The best open source image generator VS the best open source video generator? Coke VS Pepsi, ketchup VS mustard, McDonald's VS burger King, KFC VS Popeyes, will our reigning champ Purdue beat challenger Tyson? On a serious note wanting to have some ideas though.
 
The whole porn conversation is weird because if you're AI generating porn or scantily clad images of someone, you really aren't making a true representation of them, the body very likely doesn't match how their body looks. The shape and proportions are very likely different, AI probably gives them moles or freckles where they don't have them. There's something illogical in us that makes us want to assume that "grok put that person in a bikini" is actually showing us them in a bikini.

And it's true that it's damaging if people believe it's real. But also consider that no one needs to believe it's real for it to be incredibly damaging and embarrassing. Like, imagine some student takes a picture of his teacher and does a shit job with the line selection tool outlining her face and just pastes it on top of porn, to where it's incredibly obvious that the photo has been edited and no one would ever believe it's real. But if that was shared far and wide, you really don't think the teacher would find that incredibly embarrassing anyway? They're not gonna say, "oh it's obviously not me so I can just laugh it off." Someone made porn of you. It's practically just as bad.

That's partly why I don't buy the "increased harms" idea that AI makes it so much faster and easier to create this stuff. You can shittily cut out a face and paste it onto porn in 10 seconds. You can upload it to dozens of sites and share it around if you want to be an asshole, and it might take a long time to be removed from some of them, if ever. It takes intention to do that kind of thing, AI doesn't automate the process of sharing it, or of causing targeted harm or reputational damage. Target people for misuse, not tools.
 
I distinctly remember this video from the creator where xhe was considering hiring voice actors due to being scared shitless of the potential backlash for using AI voices (something was perfectly acceptable to the troon mob years prior despite the methods for producing such voices not changing), but also being scared shitless of not being able to pay said voice actors a HECKING LIVING WAGE and being racked over the coals for that as well. You could audibly hear the anxiety and paranoia in xer voice as doing anything that contradicts the values of those "wholesome old World Wide Web™" circles would result in immediate ostracization. I wish I could find the video but it appears to be lost, or maybe it was on xer Patreon or something.

The whole "old internet" craze with younger zoomers is extremely fake and gay anyways. It's all playing dress up with the aesthetic but still engaging in the behaviors that make the nu-internet so unbearable. This is all you need to see of LOVEWEB to know this person has no idea what the fuck xhe's talking about.


It's the same shallow, surface level commentary you see every other midwit YouTuber make about how the EVIL big businesses are why the internet is shit now, which does have some truth to it, don't get me wrong, but it steers clear of explaining exactly WHY the big business made the internet unusable. Notice however that the one commonly cited reason as the why the Internet went to shit, that being CENSORSHIP, is conveniently ignored in this video while the pony character starts to yap about the evils of capitalism.
I think the one thing that will obliterate Zoomer minds is that people who joined Newgrounds in the old days to make things in flash to make transgressive content isn't all that different from how a lot of people using AI makes transgressive content.

People see Newground as this haven for artists, which is partially true, but a massive portion of the website is dedicated to the lowest-brow content like dress-up games, torture simulators, shooting games where you take shots at contemporary politicians, not to mention the copious amount of meet and fuck games that were hosted on the website.

Considering how AI is used to make vapid shock content that hops onto trends, there is a good chance the same people who got into the golden age of Flash would be the kind of people making utterly retarded shit using AI.
 
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