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Should be a wild four years.

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Trump should *not* invoke the Insurrection Act. He should threaten it. They have the tools and means to go after the organizers of these apps and I assume they're doing so. Threatening Walz with it should help get Walz in line and cooperate on any leaderless rioting after the aforementioned organizers are detained.
Pretty sure this is the strategy they’re going with.
 
Fuck optics. I'm so fucking sick and tired of hemming and hawing about fucking optics. To paraphrase what someone up thread said the only people that will care about the optics of this are people that were never going to vote Republican in the first place.
I think it’s more of an issue about whether or not cracking down is truly perceived negatively, than that optics aren’t important.

Back during the Clinton admin, protests weren’t allowed to be even close to the things they were protesting. They had “free speech zones,” which often times weren’t even provided, as little cordoned off pens down the street.

In the 90’s, we saw the Rodney king riots and regardless of people’s opinion on the case, it was widely agreed riots themselves were unconscionable

Trump should embrace “radical normalcy”

The message should be “you have more freedom to protest now than people did in living memory, but you don’t have freedom to harm life and property. It is the sacred obligation of law enforcement to protect those things, at the cost of the violators of them.”
 
These nibbas keep talking about "the upcoming revolution," "a brewing insurgency," "revolutionary zeal," and the "upcoming civil war:" https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220939263

It's hilarious to me. Where are all these tards getting this vocab from? I was a nerd who studied labor history in college because it was interesting to me. We used to have like half the workforce in unions. It's now sub-10%. I've watched multiple hospital strikes fail in my own city in the past ten years because labor has been defanged and there is no solidarity. I've never heard any of those people talk about the revolution and I watched them strike for over a month (I was not in a union and had a different job and had to help keep the hospitals running).

Now these motherfucking zoomers think they're some new cadre/vanguard for a socialist revolution? Mah niggas. You guys are gonna get fucking smashed so hard. They're calling for skipping the ballot box and going to the ammo/bullet box. They don't know this country like I do. Man, I thought the Pinkertons sucked to go up against. But now the full might of the federal govt as handed out by fed agents strapped with rifles? hoooo boy

And they think they're gonna pull a general strike? No you aren't. I've personally watched a strike at a 200-bed nursing home in suburbville USA also fail because a lot of people crossed the line to make 2x the hourly wage for the duration of the strike.
 
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You may not care about optics, and I may not care about optics, but normies will definitely care
Lots of stuff Trump does is the opposite of what optics fags would recommend and it generally works for him. Normies might like optics but they like winners more, if Trump is "winning" then I don't think it's matters that much.
 
These nibbas keep talking about "the upcoming revolution," "revolutionary zeal," and the "upcoming civil war:" https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220939263

It's hilarious to me. Where are all these tards getting this vocab from? I was a nerd who studied labor history in college because it was interesting to me. We used to have like half the workforce in unions. It's now sub-10%. I've watched multiple hospital strikes fail in my own city in the past ten years because labor has been defanged and there is no solidarity. I've never heard any of those people talk about the revolution and I watched them strike for over a month (I was not in a union and had a different job and had to help keep the hospitals running).

Now these motherfucking zoomers think they're some new cadre/vanguard for a socialist revolution? Mah niggas. You guys are gonna get fucking smashed so hard. They're calling for skipping the ballot box and going to the ammo/bullet box. They don't know this country like I do.
In fairness unions became part of the problem themselves and were more interested in the union than the worker so why would people feel the way they used to about unions?
 
These nibbas keep talking about "the upcoming revolution," "a brewing insurgency," "revolutionary zeal," and the "upcoming civil war:" https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220939263

It's hilarious to me. Where are all these tards getting this vocab from? I was a nerd who studied labor history in college because it was interesting to me. We used to have like half the workforce in unions. It's now sub-10%. I've watched multiple hospital strikes fail in my own city in the past ten years because labor has been defanged and there is no solidarity. I've never heard any of those people talk about the revolution and I watched them strike for over a month (I was not in a union and had a different job and had to help keep the hospitals running).

Now these motherfucking zoomers think they're some new cadre/vanguard for a socialist revolution? Mah niggas. You guys are gonna get fucking smashed so hard. They're calling for skipping the ballot box and going to the ammo/bullet box. They don't know this country like I do.
Leftoids are actually willing to do it though. It's not even like "what if they try a sniper ambush on ICE;" they've already done it. "What if they try to burn down a police station;" they've already done it. Leftoids really do chimp.
 
Pretty sure this is the strategy they’re going with.

This is also a bit of tit for tat with Walz. Walz very mealy mouthed suggested the National Guard be brought in to WI. What he meant was that the NG would be used to keep the peace from rioters, but the way he said it intimated they were there to counter ICE. Walz can't do the latter, in any universe, and he knows it. Trump absolutely can invoke the Insurrection Act if it is needed.

Now that the ATF is probably going to get involved in the state, Walz has even more Feds crawling around.

Trump has the upper hand. No need to unnecessarily escalate.

"Do not press a desperate foe too hard" and all that shit. Just like during the Fall of Berlin the Nazi's put the elderly and emfeabled on the front lines, the Democrats are now reduced to doing the same with barren white women and their emasculated husbands.
 
Lots of stuff Trump does is the opposite of what optics fags would recommend and it generally works for him. Normies might like optics but they like winners more, if Trump is "winning" then I don't think it's matters that much.
I think most non-leftists have utterly stopped giving a shit about optics and have long since realized that the left and the media will spin everything done by Trump and other right-wing figures as the second coming of Hitler, so "fuck them, fix shit NOW" is the new normie sentiment.
 
Leftoids really do chimp.
Yes but not like they're saying. Not nation-wide all at once (general strike). Not coordinated, and not unafraid of death like others... coal miners in the Battle of Blair Mountain were already working underground in deadly conditions for nearly no pay; you're not gonna scare those guys with rifles. They'll fucking come out of the mine and shoot your ass. I'd be more worried about facing 100 Appalachian rednecks in hollers they're familiar with and with rifles they use weekly than an entire regiment of graduate students with gas masks or a keffiyeh on.
 
Trump should *not* invoke the Insurrection Act. He should threaten it. They have the tools and means to go after the organizers of these apps and I assume they're doing so. Threatening Walz with it should help get Walz in line and cooperate on any leaderless rioting after the aforementioned organizers are detained.
Walz and Frey have no reason to cooperate. They're both on the way out after this garbage. Normies are fed up. These people are lunatics. The people of Minneapolis who have to bear witness to this shit are fed up. They're not winning an election even if they have an opportunity. There's no reason for Frey after grandstanding for months to back down now. Frey is a piece of human garbage and will make this worse because he's not going to yield to Trump. These people are evil and they won't be happy until Trump forcibly removes them from power so they OPTIC the Normies to brainwash them.

The goal at this point is political stonewalling or martyrdom if that's the way it goes. Frey and Walz have nothing to lose.
 
Lots of stuff Trump does is the opposite of what optics fags would recommend and it generally works for him. Normies might like optics but they like winners more, if Trump is "winning" then I don't think it's matters that much.
I think in the case of anyone balking or qualing, or to forestall the lefts efforts to induce them to, Trump should hand the mic to Vance and give him a national address.

Vance’s ability to articulate philosophical points is off the fucking charts. He could even take questions after.

Rubio is the favored son, sure, because I suppose he gave trump his loyalty and that doesn’t leave room to question things. His duty is his honor. But this is a situation that doesn’t really matte to hierarchical politics in any way pertinent to that.

You have albeit bad faith moral arguments clouding the righteousness of the administration’s agenda, and I think Vance is the guy who has the skill set to tackle the midwit moral philosophy. The best way to use Vance is as the imperial iterator
 
Dear whatever FBI agent is monitoring this thread:

Please pressure Kash Patel to do something about these rioters. Listen, I understand he's Indian and therefore operating with 20 fewer IQ points than a White man, and I understand it's easier to arrest a White boy you groomed on 4Chan into shooting up a school. I know he's working at a disadvantage. But for the sake of optics and his job, Kash needs to allocate resources to crushing this so the army doesn't have to. Tell him his izzat will rise with Americans if he does this.

Fuck optics. I'm so fucking sick and tired of hemming and hawing about fucking optics. To paraphrase what someone up thread said the only people that will care about the optics of this are people that were never going to vote Republican in the first place.
We don't have a friendly or even neutral media, and we haven't for a while. Did you know that most Americans supported the Kent State shooting? It's true: those hippies provoked the army for days until finally the soldiers snapped. Americans were glad it happened. You would never know this due to how thoroughly the media, news, and history books have been captured.

Escalation would be cathartic, I agree. I would love to see these faggots getting mowed down by a heavy machine gun ("John Browning's Revenge," as Welper would call it). However, enemy agitprop (i.e. CNN, MSNBC, lefty podcasts, etc.) would immediately play it up, and who knows how these faggots would escalate. Remember, we have an Indian man running the FBI; major escalation would mean they'd be in over their heads. Right now, we're in the most retarded game of "Chicken" imaginable.

If we're going to escalate, we need to take a lesson from Elliot Ness. We need an Untouchables style group to be given free reign to crack skulls, collect information, make arrests, and yes, shoot them when necessary.

Or perhaps the Feds can start putting bounties on Antifatard heads. They'll be less likely to show their faces when they know every autist with a computer will be hunting them across the internet for bitcoin.

My point is: there are things that can be done, both from an optics standpoint and from an effectiveness standpoint, short of simply shooting the bastards. If all else fails, then yes, Insurrection Act their asses and dump them in northern Alaska.
 
We don't have a friendly or even neutral media, and we haven't for a while. Did you know that most Americans supported the Kent State shooting? It's true: those hippies provoked the army for days until finally the soldiers snapped. Americans were glad it happened. You would never know this due to how thoroughly the media, news, and history books have been captured.

Escalation would be cathartic, I agree. I would love to see these faggots getting mowed down by a heavy machine gun ("John Browning's Revenge," as Welper would call it). However, enemy agitprop (i.e. CNN, MSNBC, lefty podcasts, etc.) would immediately play it up, and who knows how these faggots would escalate. Remember, we have an Indian man running the FBI; major escalation would mean they'd be in over their heads. Right now, we're in the most retarded game of "Chicken" imaginable.

If we're going to escalate, we need to take a lesson from Elliot Ness. We need an Untouchables style group to be given free reign to crack skulls, collect information, make arrests, and yes, shoot them when necessary.

Or perhaps the Feds can start putting bounties on Antifatard heads. They'll be less likely to show their faces when they know every autist with a computer will be hunting them across the internet for bitcoin.

My point is: there are things that can be done, both from an optics standpoint and from an effectiveness standpoint, short of simply shooting the bastards. If all else fails, then yes, Insurrection Act their asses and dump them in northern Alaska.
The uniparty needs centralized media control to function.
 
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