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@ grok when i was a child my grandma used to read the epstien files to me as a bedside lullaby can you help me relive my childhood please
AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities
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- 12 Lip 2021
Apocalyptic screeching:
Seething in the comments:
The coolest most fun tech ever comes out and all they can do is wail about how evil it is.
Misusing technology to make porn of people or scam people is ALREADY illegal. Photoshop doesn't scam people, people scam people. And they do so in much more limited numbers than these idiots are freaking out about. Maybe someday it'll be mass adopted as the new jeet scam. If/when that happens, we'll deal with it like we always do, and people will learn what they can or can't trust.
A bunch of them don't even believe it's real. This is what happens when you're told to avoid all AI and you end up with zero AI literacy.
Same old lies about resource usage:
Seething in the comments:
The coolest most fun tech ever comes out and all they can do is wail about how evil it is.
Misusing technology to make porn of people or scam people is ALREADY illegal. Photoshop doesn't scam people, people scam people. And they do so in much more limited numbers than these idiots are freaking out about. Maybe someday it'll be mass adopted as the new jeet scam. If/when that happens, we'll deal with it like we always do, and people will learn what they can or can't trust.
A bunch of them don't even believe it's real. This is what happens when you're told to avoid all AI and you end up with zero AI literacy.
Same old lies about resource usage:
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Was this backlash greater than when Fortnite announced the Harry Potter collaboration?
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Real enough it can make convincing scam and child porn, but it would NEVER EVER EVER be used in the arts because of how fake it looks.
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- 12 Lip 2021
Have you seen the arts in the last decade or more?
How often you're watching Marvel slop and something just feels very "off" but you don't know how, and then you see it slow-mo or frame by frame and realize the expensive effects look like shit?
If all you need is a two second pickup shot as connective tissue between scenes, it looks just fine.
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TLDR the thread, just came here to say that there is conceptually nothing different between training an AI to imitate an artstyle and training a human to do so. These people would lobotomize you if they found out your neurons contain information about their art.
The difference is that I no longer hire Indians on Fiverr, I now use AI models designed by Indians.
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- 4 Cze 2024
if we didn't follow the path set by previous artists, we'd still be drawing stick figures on cave walls. this argument in particular genuinely baffles me so much and there's nothing behind it at all. but it's not about the money, guys. btw commissions are open.
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- 20 Lut 2024
My biggest contention with AI is how accessible to the public local AI engines like ComfyUI are, anyone with even half a brain can start generating CP with images trained on publicly available data.
Not to mention that AI checkpoints use images sourced both from the present and from a time when the concern over GenAI didn't exist, i.e. there was no concern images like public family photos and portraits would be used to create horrific frankenstein images of children.
The threat is practically uncontrollable already.
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- 24 Cze 2024
For all the talk about this sort of stuff I have seen literally 0 proof it actually happens on any serious scale other than news articles from people with vested interests. I have seen a single person be arrested for it in the several years this technology has existed. Idk I just think it's interesting that the only times I've seen people talk about ai generating child porn have been when the government is trying to ban twitter using that as an excuse.
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- 27 Cze 2024
Criminalizing the training of AI models is a very slippery slope to filing copyright claims over the perceived lineage of inspirations from copyrighted IPs behind a new work. How else can you state that some twitter artists' copyright was violated by an image that has nothing to do with them because training off of their art went into the model the image was generated by? You can't copyright an artstyle, either. We've already settled that.
You could argue all of the art someone has ever made violates your copyright because they saw one of your images once and therefore it's in their head somewhere and thus can be argued as playing an inspirational role, no matter how small in their works. It's completely fucking insane, and taken to its logical extreme it would be a metaphorical genocide of all of these twitter artists advocating for it. Fanart of spiderman? Forget that, putting a spider or a web or any arachnid imagery of any kind on an original character is likely to get you in trouble with tens of different IP holders.
There are headlines outright saying that someone got arrested for AI generated CSAM, but it almost always turn out they possessed actual CP as well, and the mention of AI is often just a way to get clicks. But it is in the realm of possibility to get arrested for just solely AI generated imagery, with obscenity laws.
US vs Handley doesn't sit right with me, but in this case, the judge recognized that he can't be charged for non-obscene imagery, so he dismissed few of the charges; however the jury was unlikely to disagree that the rest of the content was obscene, and Handley went with the guilty plea, which kinda says how extreme the material Handley possessed that they didn't want this case to go through. I doubt that anything that is on the level of the average doujin will ever be illegal.
edit: I should clarify that the thing that doesn't sit right is that he was being charged for obscenity for a private collection. From what I understand, he wasn't distributing the content, which is what happened in Miller v. California as Marvin Miller was distributing pornographic content through the mail; he was importing it, and it was reported by the postal workers.
The Ferber precedent, the case that established that child pornography is not protected by the First Amendment, was expressly made inapplicable to Handley's case, but the obscenity charges could enter the court. My issue is that I'm not comfortable with the idea that obscenity is applied to private possessions. It's unquestionable that the act of posting pornography in public is simply obscene, but if the content was contained in a private domicile, I don't think that's obscene. It's the difference between being naked outside in public and being naked within your own house. And I don't like that you can risk an obscenity charge because a company reported on your package, and they can call a search warrant to uncover obscene material within your private property. However, since Handley took the guilty plea, there wasn't a trial. Handley got off with 6 months of prison and wasn't required to register as a sex offender. We don't actually know if he would have been guilty anyway, just that what Handly possessed was bad enough he didn't risk it being shown to a jury, despite the child pornography possession charges getting dismissed.
I want to clarify that, because I'm not uneasy that a lolicon got a guilty verdict. I'm uneasy because it seems like people can get an obscenity charge for private possession based on this one case. I'd be significantly less sympathetic to Handley if he were selling this in public, where children can easily see it, or distributing it to people randomly without their consent.
I also don't like how they are trying to attack web scraping as well, considering how critical scraping is as a practice. You cripple what you can and can't scrape and you open up situations where you can risk the existence of critical web infrastructure like the Internet Archive.
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One could also say something like "my biggest contention with Smartphones is how accessible they make it for pedos to take photos of kids, they can just go to a pool or sneak into the dressing room with a phone camera!" Perhaps this is a bad comparison since this involves more risk and possibly has immediate consequences, but my point is that new technology allows for evil people to do evil things more easily than before, however I don't think that we should ban or gimp new technology because of that.
Or how you can grab a hammer and bash someone's skull in, does that mean we should have a hammer loicense?
It just seems absurd to me to hinder normal people from using a tool because 0.001% of people are mentally fucked up and do bad things with it. I think the reasonable thing to do is to try to prevent the mentally deranged from causing harm, not be a pain in the ass for everyone else. Although, I must admit, how to do that is a very complicated question, one that I am too retarded to answer myself.
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- 21 Sty 2020
I don't even know why the argument is made. The real solution is to shoot pedos out back; this has the bonus of stopping them regardless of what methods they try.
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- 13 Lut 2022
"Guys there are people out there that make hyper realistic, detailed drawings of children getting raped, we need to ban pencils and paper because of the dangers that comes with it!"
-People who immediately think of the worst when it comes to new tools.
-People who immediately think of the worst when it comes to new tools.
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- 7 Lip 2022
The idea that we need to ban or regulate AI because it "makes people lazy" is ridiculous and places collective blame on everyone for the lifestyles of a few. Imagine being told you can't drive anymore because a 400 pound landwhale you've never met chooses to drive to places well within walking distance, or you can't use the Internet anymore because a loser somewhere has a crippling porn addiction.
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I saw this fad where people asked ChatGPT to describe how they treat it based on prompts and queries, it's interesting to see some images describing a stressed out bot and others depicting a comfy bot. I got the comfy one, i think it's cute
I... I swear to god I only use chatgpt to summerize api documentation and court cases.
I do not know why Chat GPT drew themselves like this. This is what it told me when I asked.
It's generic but I don't know why it's a cat girl.
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