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I somehow doubt that the NG is going to, possibly literally, die on the hill of defending tampon tim. He's a scum fuck suit with negative charisma, he is not the guy to inspire rebellion.
I think you might slightly underestimate how pozzed certain law enforcement agencies may be, but it's true that he can't necessarily just order police and guardsmen into rebellion with the feds and expect that to happen. I just wonder how far things can go when the retard protestors and the retard governor have the exact same brainworms.
 
The number of women today who think they are somehow immune from all rules or police directives is insane. I just watched a video where a cop pulled over a woman who then decided to flee the scene in her car, park somewhere else , then call 911 on the cop for giving her orders that "made her feel uncomfortable".
It's what happens when you put feels over reels. Got family members like it. The husband is great. The wife is driven by emotions
 
The "protests" are *so peaceful* that we have to call in backup for our police. It's been very peaceful though! I promise.
 
Walz is a total bitch, I don't think he'll do shit. But a lot of people in this thread seem to think he'll do more than just talk as though he might do it and bait his crowd.

Can someone who thinks otherwise explain to me why they believe this will be the time that something actually happens?
Under normal circumstances, I would say that there's absolutely no chance that a politician does something as retarded as ordering the NG to 'resist' federal agents. These aren't normal circumstances. Tim is scared, you can hear the trembling in his voice now. The federal government is serious about indicting and prosecuting him. And they seem to be confident in whatever evidence they have that shows he was involved/complicit with the fraud. Add to that, Walz's has been increasingly advocating for his constituents to interfere with ICE and federal law enforcement and with today's "the country is looking at us to set an example." Statement from him, he's looking and acting more and more like a cornered animal. A retarded cornered animal is going to make mistakes. And I think Tim in his current situation moves the needle from "nothing ever happens" to "it's unlikely but something might happen.". So odds are low but this guy might possibly make the single most retarded decision possible when the time comes.
 
Don't the NG ultimately answer to the President, anyway? Isn't that what all the screeching in California's been about?
Yes, thanks to the Civil War the powers of the States were limited as the National Guard became modernized into what we have now, a federal force that is split between the states with limited operational ability from the Governors. Some states do have their own independent militias still, but those all seem to have been relegated to supporting the NG, and a few apparently don't even have weapons training. It doesn't help that they're basically rounding errors in terms of military capacity and have next to no publicity.

Courts trying to rule that the President can't use the NG, or any other federal asset, as he wishes is fucking retarded and directly countermanding the Constitutionally granted authority of everybody involved. It will only hold as such until somebody decides to no longer play nice and loyalty to the Commander and Chief outweighs political posturing by the Judiciary, or the libs are retarded enough to invoke the thus far unproven 3rd Amendment to prevent housing for agents in hotels, or something else inane.
 
1. Leftists are desperate for a W, no matter how Pyrrhic or self-destructive.
2. Jacob Frey and Keith Ellison are Antifa/DSA true believers. Walz is a stooge who will do their bidding.
3. It's transparently clear that Leftists want violence. They would rather a thousand Americans die than one of their precious illegal pets get deported.
Pyrrhic Is all they know.
 
It's what happens when you put feels over reels. Got family members like it. The husband is great. The wife is driven by emotions
Who would have thought that constantly bombarding girls and women with insane girl power propaganda might give them a completely unrealistic view of reality? All part of the plan for engineered social chaos, subversion, and revolution.
 
The number of women today who think they are somehow immune from all rules or police directives is insane. I just watched a video where a cop pulled over a woman who then decided to flee the scene in her car, park somewhere else , then call 911 on the cop for giving her orders that "made her feel uncomfortable".
Many of the leftoids malding over this have swallowed their own propaganda about police shootings. Some of it might be piss poor attempts at trolling but many of them are genuinely confused and outraged about the mere fact that police shot a white woman, don't you know the police are only supposed to kill black and brown bodies of color?
 
1. Leftists are desperate for a W, no matter how Pyrrhic or self-destructive.
2. Jacob Frey and Keith Ellison are Antifa/DSA true believers. Walz is a stooge who will do their bidding.
3. It's transparently clear that Leftists want violence. They would rather a thousand Americans die than one of their precious illegal pets get deported.
I appreciate you laying it out. I still don't think anything will happen, but #2 is probably your strongest point as it is consistent in that Walz is, in fact, a bitch. I don't know much about Frey or Ellison or how beholden either of them are to the powers that be.

Leftists are desperate for a W and want violence but its easy to forget that the leftists are all NPC's who are easily influenced. What they think they want at any given moment doesn't matter to anyone with actual power.
 
Under normal circumstances, I would say that there's absolutely no chance that a politician does something as retarded as ordering the NG to 'resist' federal agents. These aren't normal circumstances. Tim is scared, you can hear the trembling in his voice now. The federal government is serious about indicting and prosecuting him. And they seem to be confident in whatever evidence they have that shows he was involved/complicit with the fraud. Add to that, Walz's has been increasingly advocating for his constituents to interfere with ICE and federal law enforcement and with today's "the country is looking at us to set an example." Statement from him, he's looking and acting more and more like a cornered animal. A retarded cornered animal is going to make mistakes. And I think Tim in his current situation moves the needle from "nothing ever happens" to "it's unlikely but something might happen.". So odds are low but this guy might possibly make the single most retarded decision possible when the time comes.
I mean I'm not wishing for the R Bud Dwyer ending, but if it happens it happens.
Who would have thought that constantly bombarding girls and women with insane girl power propaganda might give them a completely unrealistic view of reality? All part of the plan for engineered social chaos, subversion, and revolution.
I blame the fact that we can't hit women anymore. And I'm with Sean Connery on this one, you don't use a closed fist but sometimes you have to give them a smack in the mouth.
 
Can someone who thinks otherwise explain to me why they believe this will be the time that something actually happens?
This isn't a routine ICE sweep to nab construction workers or dishwashers, they're very clearly there to look into the billion dollar daycare and healthcare fraud (which may very well be the basis for election fraud as well) All depends on if they find something because, if not, then I can see Dems eating a loss, burying underground and waiting for some next chance like usual. Depends if those DoJ murmurings go anywhere.
 
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