💊 Manosphere Clavicular / Braden Eric Peters / ylrven - Moderator on looksmax.org, roid rat, takes out loans for cosmetic surgery, can't talk to women without doping, DIY surgeon

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MTFs and obsessive Looksmaxxers are two sides of the same Male Body Dysmorphic Disorder coin.

I read a few things on the Looksmax website out of curiosity, and it's not ALL terrible advice. A lot of men do just need a better haircut, for example. But the degree some of them take it, like deliberately breaking their bones, is insane.

If you're aware of "low-value" and "high-value" people, then you should aim to be a high-value man with a high-value woman. Whores that have hookups with you are not high-value women. And you also become a low-value man if you're a compulsive sex addict unable to commit.

It legitimately doesn't matter how many women you attract or how optimized your looksmaxxing is if you're not a stable provider. If your goal is to be an eternal bachelor and never have a family, then sure do whatever. But if your goal IS to have a family, then you don't want to date a slut anyway, and you also can't be a stable spouse or parent with all these unresolved mental issues.

They become so obsessed with the dopamine hit of our narcissistic dating app culture that they forget the most important foundations of a real relationship. Like they're not wrong that they are "locked out" of a relationship until they look good and have a good job. But being sane and actually liking your partner for things outside of just sex are important too.

 

[CatharticShitHead]

MTFs and obsessive Looksmaxxers are two sides of the same Male Body Dysmorphic Disorder coin.

I read a few things on the Looksmax website out of curiosity, and it's not ALL terrible advice. A lot of men do just need a better haircut, for example. But the degree some of them take it, like deliberately breaking their bones, is insane.

If you're aware of "low-value" and "high-value" people, then you should aim to be a high-value man with a high-value woman. Whores that have hookups with you are not high-value women. And you also become a low-value man if you're a compulsive sex addict unable to commit.

It legitimately doesn't matter how many women you attract or how optimized your looksmaxxing is if you're not a stable provider. If your goal is to be an eternal bachelor and never have a family, then sure do whatever. But if your goal IS to have a family, then you don't want to date a slut anyway, and you also can't be a stable spouse or parent with all these unresolved mental issues.

They become so obsessed with the dopamine hit of our narcissistic dating app culture that they forget the most important foundations of a real relationship. Like they're not wrong that they are "locked out" of a relationship until they look good and have a good job. But being sane and actually liking your partner for things outside of just sex are important too.

You're forgetting one key factor here:
Most looksmaxxers are either insecure teenagers who obviously have body issues and are just following the advice of who they think is reliable OR they're "washed up" closeted faggoty 20-40 year old men who want to look good for their "future wife" when in reality, they wanna have men's approval.

I would argue that the closeted factor shares a venn diagram with men who enjoy figures like Andrew Tate. At the end of the day, these shallow shits do not care for bettering their lives for an actual good reason like trying to make life worth living and giving back to the world. No. These men care if user293209 on tiktok say they "clear" or that they "mog". They want to end up in a black pill edit because they successfully managed to look like a fucking Ken doll or they successfully have enough money to afford Balenciaga.

 

[Laughing Putin]

One amusing benefit of Clav making the rounds in the redpill community is that he is free to insult Andrew Tate's looks and Myron Gaines' appearance and other such freaks with impunity.

 

[seacaregiver]

One amusing benefit of Clav making the rounds in the redpill community is that he is free to insult Andrew Tate's looks and Myron Gaines' appearance and other such freaks with impunity.

redpill as a whole seems to be taking a ton of hit cause a lot of them are starting to realize that all this sperging was a waste of time. At least clav seems to give like an actual solution

 

[dick brain]

what a retarded take on life in general, "oh he looks good I need to trust him" is something a women would say.

Unironically physical fitness is a reliable heuristic of virtue and vice. You cannot be fat without being lazy and gluttonous, it is a scarlet letter that nature bestows upon you for taking more than your share and pulling less than your weight. You cannot be strong without hard work and discipline. You cannot be weak without a willingness to rely on the strong. Physical fitness and lifting in general are so strongly correlated to conservatism that liberals try to paint it as a dogwhistle, when the reality is that working hard and seeing that hard work produce results makes you more willing to do hard work and rely upon yourself instead of delegating and depending upon others, which is antithetical to bugman ideals. Also putting in work and seeing results makes you less sympathetic to people who are not willing to do the same, which is also antithetical to liberal ideals wherein lazy and stupid pieces of shit are kept afloat by the hard working and capable instead of being forced to sink or swim. Fitness is inherently conservative.

Unfortunately it is also valued by homosexuals, for whom the need for liberal tolerance of their depravity supercedes the conservative values that produce their paraphilic fixation, so it's not 1:1. But it's still a safe bet in the real world, where the proliferation of sentiments isn't censored or amplified at the discretion of corporations.

Personally I do not listen to the opinions of people who cannot deadlift their bodyweight, which basically just rules out the morbidly obese, extreme bugmen and most women. If you can squat your bodyweight I will humor your opinions, if you can bench your bodyweight I will respect them, and if you can OHP your bodyweight I will consider them in good faith. I won't "trust" you per se given the possibility that you're a homosexual who hits yourself in the face with a hammer and owns a cybertruck, but I'll examine your opinions critically in due dilligence instead of ignoring them entirely. Though let's be real, Clav doesn't lift.

 

[Berrakh]

Clips from this are now hitting Twitter.
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Christ, does Clav only exist as another front for these fags to try and sabotage Vance and present Newsom as based? Every bitter fairweather voter from wigger nationalists to the catboys has been giddy at the idea of voting for Newsom.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Unironically physical fitness is a reliable heuristic of virtue and vice.

In short, be Plato.

Spoiler: An aside

Some of you guys have some out there thoughts on things, but I guess I didn't come to Kiwi Farms for normie take. Importantly, I'm glad most people are invested in improving themselves as people rather than as object like Clav. You as a person are a long term investment, you will always travel with yourself, to both train/enrich yourself AND take care of yourself so you don't wear out is the ideal. Please, longevity and friendmax. Don't be the object that goes to clubs and appears powerful and pretty like Clav, then shatters into meth face spectacularly.

What the fuck did his mom and dad pass down and teach to his retarded ass that he acts like this? The bodybuilding mom and business rich dad answer half the question at least.

 

[Berrakh]

Unironically physical fitness is a reliable heuristic of virtue and vice. You cannot be fat without being lazy and gluttonous, it is a scarlet letter that nature

Blah blah blah. This is true but only to a point, and becomes less true if you say it aloud. Because it can be gamed and does see diminishing returns.

If you disagree then live and form beliefs according to jacked lifestyle podcasters. The experiment can be run if you’re willing.

I think you know this because the flowery metaphor is overwrought. I’d also say, in my experience, the coworkers who spent the absolute most time at the gym were awfully high maintenance and not the most reliable. They were in it for back-pats from creatures like you.

 

[United Abominations]

Blah blah blah. This is true but only to a point, and becomes less true if you say it aloud. Because it can be gamed and does see diminishing returns.

If you disagree then live and form beliefs according to jacked lifestyle podcasters. The experiment can be run if you’re willing.

I think you know this because the flowery metaphor is overwrought. I’d also say, in my experience, the coworkers who spent a lot of time at the gym were awfully high maintenance and not the most reliable. They were in it for back-pats from creatures like you.

Mike Mentzer's idea of training as a social need being bad and valuing other parts of life as being good is very underrated as a training philosophy and helped break me out of my retarded gymcel guts larper phase

Mentzer was very flawed but I love him saying that the gym wasn't everything even if he did not ultimately follow his own advice and used meth as a preworkout and looked better as a natty at 19

Every woman I have talked to has begged me to not get on steroids when I had a feeling I needed to from influencers and for me to stay as a natty, and ultimately I listened to them over the retarded Mike Israetel podcaster types

Obese powerlifters like kyriakos grizzly can bench 700lbs+ but not walk up a flight of stairs so what exactly IS fitness and how long will those types live for on all that gear and extreme diets

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

stable provider.

But if your goal IS to have a family,

Lol none of this applies to this vacuous twit. And that's probably best for the human race.

actually liking your partner

things outside of just sex

Do you really think he cares about either one of these concepts? I'm being serious: I don't think he has any interests or goals. He is a poster-child for callow youth, and I don't think it's a grand scheme, just that he is that vapid.

 

[AMHOLIO]

He is a poster-child for callow youth, and I don't think it's a grand scheme, just that he is that vapid.

I hate to say this about people, but the farms has taught me that there really are people who are "that stupid" out there. Braden leans into that hard. I know he probably will want a child to prove his virility or carry on his penis legacy by 25-30 because that's the checkbox successful men are supposed to do in his mind, but the future is so far away from Braden's brain that it might as well not exist. He's likely living in dog years ever since he started doing roids, and likely has 7 or less left.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

I hate to say this about people, but the farms has taught me that there really are people who are "that stupid" out there. Braden leans into that hard. I know he probably will want a child to prove his virility or carry on his penis legacy by 25-30 because that's the checkbox successful men are supposed to do in his mind, but the future is so far away from Braden's brain that it might as well not exist. He's likely living in dog years ever since he started doing roids, and likely has 7 or less left.

I agree with you on the first part, but on the second part....Mmm, the checkbox a kid from his background, however dumb, should have had was college...which didn't go well. Even if he hadn't got thrown out, he didn't even have the "um, something in finance" aspiration that even most idiots in high-worth families tend to have.

And you know, maybe he's actually right: that he has no ability even to nepo his way into a passable job, so publicizing gonad-destroying and face hammering really is his best bet.

 

[Neil]

the black dude

I don't get how anyone thought this dude was black, he's pink as fuck in the video.

He's hispanic. His instagram name is riicanx (probably meaning Puerto Rican because of course he is)

This guy is just one of the many types of methed-out, tatted-up whigger that exists in Florida. Dear Feeder should know this, having grown up in said state.

Very disappointed in this feature, incorrectly advertising one form of vehicular manslaughter to users whilst delivering another. Jokes aside, has anyone even confirmed if this guy is alive or not?

 

[Béziers Curb]

I don't get how anyone thought this dude was black, he's pink as fuck in the video.
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He's hispanic. His instagram name is riicanx (probably meaning Puerto Rican because of course he is)
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This guy is just one of the many types of methed-out, tatted-up whigger that exists in Florida. Dear Feeder should know this, having grown up in said state.

Very disappointed in this feature, incorrectly advertising one form of vehicular manslaughter to users whilst delivering another. Jokes aside, has anyone even confirmed if this guy is alive or not?

he looks black enough to cross the street

 

[Jarolleon]

Christ, does Clav only exist as another front for these fags to try and sabotage Vance and present Newsom as based? Every bitter fairweather voter from wigger nationalists to the catboys has been giddy at the idea of voting for Newsom.

I think this is entirely because Newsom looks like Patrick Bateman so they think it's funny that the guy from the sigma male edits might become president.

 

[Angel by Massive Attack]

I can't help but feel a little bad because Braden truly seems to be an autistic kid that sperged too hard on the wrong thing. Granted, I think he's brought all of this on himself, it's just unfortunate that he's retarded on top of that.

 

[AstaSilva]

MTFs and obsessive Looksmaxxers are two sides of the same Male Body Dysmorphic Disorder coin.

I read a few things on the Looksmax website out of curiosity, and it's not ALL terrible advice. A lot of men do just need a better haircut, for example. But the degree some of them take it, like deliberately breaking their bones, is insane.

If you're aware of "low-value" and "high-value" people, then you should aim to be a high-value man with a high-value woman. Whores that have hookups with you are not high-value women. And you also become a low-value man if you're a compulsive sex addict unable to commit.

It legitimately doesn't matter how many women you attract or how optimized your looksmaxxing is if you're not a stable provider. If your goal is to be an eternal bachelor and never have a family, then sure do whatever. But if your goal IS to have a family, then you don't want to date a slut anyway, and you also can't be a stable spouse or parent with all these unresolved mental issues.

They become so obsessed with the dopamine hit of our narcissistic dating app culture that they forget the most important foundations of a real relationship. Like they're not wrong that they are "locked out" of a relationship until they look good and have a good job. But being sane and actually liking your partner for things outside of just sex are important too.

Newfag is unfathomably based. But getting back on topic - Being good looking might be of value on the outside, but its a liability on the inside. Clavicular better not take this situation as something to embolden him. If he runs over another person he'll almost certainly be charged. Unless the law actually allows repeat occasions without limits but that seems a bit comical.

 

[SilentFuccBoi]

The legacy of PUAHATE (and the incel forums that came after) continues with niggas like Clav on the scene. So many young kids are dumb enough to be influenced by this bullshit they actually believe they need to do all the looksmaxxing bullshit to get women.

How many autists hopped on roids because of Zyzz?

How many will get double jaw surgery and wear makeup because of Clav?

My prediction is Clav dies before 30 due to suicide or he gets a crazy long prison sentence due to roid rage murder.

 

[Berrakh]

I think this is entirely because Newsom looks like Patrick Bateman so they think it's funny that the guy from the sigma male edits might become president.

I know that is the stated reason but really this is deeper: it is often the most (vocally) radical politispergs who are the least likely to make any sacrifices and first to backslide out of spitefulness (and not even at Trump but people they argued with online who support Trump).

 

[Pringles]

MTFs and obsessive Looksmaxxers are two sides of the same Male Body Dysmorphic Disorder coin.

I read a few things on the Looksmax website out of curiosity, and it's not ALL terrible advice. A lot of men do just need a better haircut, for example. But the degree some of them take it, like deliberately breaking their bones, is insane.

If you're aware of "low-value" and "high-value" people, then you should aim to be a high-value man with a high-value woman. Whores that have hookups with you are not high-value women. And you also become a low-value man if you're a compulsive sex addict unable to commit.

It legitimately doesn't matter how many women you attract or how optimized your looksmaxxing is if you're not a stable provider. If your goal is to be an eternal bachelor and never have a family, then sure do whatever. But if your goal IS to have a family, then you don't want to date a slut anyway, and you also can't be a stable spouse or parent with all these unresolved mental issues.

They become so obsessed with the dopamine hit of our narcissistic dating app culture that they forget the most important foundations of a real relationship. Like they're not wrong that they are "locked out" of a relationship until they look good and have a good job. But being sane and actually liking your partner for things outside of just sex are important too.

Absolute retarded babble, Bonesmashing is literally DIY plastic surgery through microfractures and Wolffs law. Youre just to stupid to think deeper than "this seems stupid so it must be", just fucking brace your head and you wont hurt your brain in the proccess.

If you cant attract low value women you definentely wont be able to get "muh muh high value woman" either. If some whore wont fuck yu, why the HELL would a "high value woman"?

"It legitimately doesn't matter how many women you attract or how optimized your looksmaxxing is if you're not a stable provider."

Just fucking laugh at this babble Sorry pal, when youre a fat balding millionare in your 40's, guess what? Your hot wife will just fuck the hot poolboy while youre away. Thats life.

"and you also can't be a stable spouse or parent with all these unresolved mental issues."

Ahh yes, the mental issue of . . . caring about your looks, hmmm yes ive heard of this one.



How fucking stupid can you be? Biohacking and taking pharmacutecals to enhance your apperance for optimalized social interactions is not only SMART but also way fucking wiser than sitting around with "muh stable jawb"

"They become so obsessed with the dopamine hit of our narcissistic dating app culture that they forget the most important foundations of a real relationship. Like they're not wrong that they are "locked out" of a relationship until they look good and have a good job. But being sane and actually liking your partner for things outside of just sex are important too."

Here we go again, another "muh job, muh personality" Do i really need to name him? Jeremy Meeks alone makes this entire tangent look like retard babble. And the dopamine shit is so fkn normiepilled, dopamine is just another chemical, just like oxytocin and serotonin, its not about dopamine its about feeling worthy of someones attention and love. The last sentance is just dehumanizing to say it that way, who says Blackpillers dont have hobbies? Or interests? This is just retarded blue-pilled normie babble from someone who clearly has no idea what theyre talking about and clearly doesnt understand the blackpill at a fundamental level. Great for a cucked college thesis and internett points man.