Yu-Gi-Oh! / Duel Monsters - RIP Dueling Network and YGOPro

[Incecticyder]

To be fair, the differences between manga and anime don't really affect your understanding of the story when you sit down to watch DSOD. The key difference being that Kaiba wasn't around to witness the final duel in the manga but I think most people don't really think about that since Kaibas obsession with defeating Yugi was always a defining part of his character.
Still, too much talking and not enough dueling. Simulation of Pharaoh vs Kaiba was excellent but sadly it was only a few minutes of a larger runtime. Joey didn't get to show off CG Red-Eyes or any upgrades.
I get that its purpose was to wrap up any lingering story threads and talk about moving on but my main take is that anyone can jump down a hole in Egypt and collect 5 powerful gold artifacts at any time now. And Kaiba can apparently manifest Obelisk The Tormentor. It was not satisfying to watch.

Irrelevant. Few people in the west are familiar with the manga. The movie is the finale of a manga they know little about, not the famous anime. That is what I am saying. The movie does not even have to do with the anime.

 

[TheOtherOne]

The key difference being that Kaiba wasn't around to witness the final duel in the manga but I think most people don't really think about that since Kaibas obsession with defeating Yugi was always a defining part of his character.

It's pretty relevant since Kaiba didn't see Yugi as a strong duelist on his own but just some vessel for the Pharaoh, who he saw as his real rival. Part of the movie is him realizing Yugi is strong is his own right, that's why he smiled a bit as he was going to lose to Yugi. In the anime, since he was there to watch Yugi beat the Pharaoh, he's seen proof that Yugi is better than the Pharaoh, so he has no reason to start looking for the Pharaoh again if he can just duel Yugi.

Kaiba at the end of the movie didn't even really move on yet since he went to the afterlife just to duel the Pharaoh lol

 

[Incecticyder]

It's pretty relevant since Kaiba didn't see Yugi as a strong duelist on his own but just some vessel for the Pharaoh, who he saw as his real rival. Part of the movie is him realizing Yugi is strong is his own right, that's why he smiled a bit as he was going to lose to Yugi. In the anime, since he was there to watch Yugi beat the Pharaoh, he's seen proof that Yugi is better than the Pharaoh, so he has no reason to start looking for the Pharaoh again if he can just duel Yugi.

Kaiba at the end of the movie didn't even really move on yet since he went to the afterlife just to duel the Pharaoh lol

Honestly, the character development on Kaiba was better in the anime. He moved on from Atem but also made the occasional jabs. I like to believe that he considers Yugi his new rival in the anime but in a less obsessive way.

 

[KingofSomething]

Honestly, the character development on Kaiba was better in the anime. He moved on from Atem but also made the occasional jabs. I like to believe that he considers Yugi his new rival in the anime but in a less obsessive way.

Kaiba weaponizing his autism to get into the afterlife just to run it back with Atem was pretty amazing though

 

[Incecticyder]

Kaiba weaponizing his autism to get into the afterlife just to run it back with Atem was pretty amazing though

Certainly but so is being a petty bitch with the dorms and trying to find whether there is intelligent life in outer space so that he can teach them to duel.

 

[BadBoyCentury]

Kaiba at the end of the movie didn't even really move on yet since he went to the afterlife just to duel the Pharaoh lol

The difference between manga and anime, whether or not Kaiba saw Yugi send Atem to the afterlife, always felt like a distinction without difference, because the end of the movie established that what Kaiba seeks is not just a strong opponent, but an equal like Atem. So his obsession would still linger and gnaw at him even if he saw Yugi defeat Atem, that He was not able to defeat Atem.

It always seemed to me to be a very autistic distinction to make for the movie with that ending, but whatever Takahashi, you do you.

 

[Incecticyder]

The difference between manga and anime, whether or not Kaiba saw Yugi send Atem to the afterlife, always felt like a distinction without difference, because the end of the movie established that what Kaiba seeks is not just a strong opponent, but an equal like Atem. So his obsession would still linger and gnaw at him even if he saw Yugi defeat Atem, that He was not able to defeat Atem.

It always seemed to me to be a very autistic distinction to make for the movie with that ending, but whatever Takahashi, you do you.

The idea is that he found a replacement equal in the anime and got some closure.

 

[escampar]

< Day #2 of Demonstrating the INSANITY that is the Yu-Gi-Oh! competitive meta, players and culture >

Bored of screwing only each other out of the opportunity to "play" something they mutually feign affection for, the very thought of sinking their fangs into fresh, young blood arouses them. These are "people" that enjoy watching, enjoy re-living the figurative public F-U-C-K-I-N-G of a literal 10 year old child.

Rather than question attitudes, the behaviors, the AUTISM that led them to this tragedy. They absolve themselves of responsibility for its occurrence:

• "I never touched that boy! The terrible format (at the time) was what bent him over!"

They focus on the "meta repercussions" of the debauchery:

• "Oh no! What's gonna get banned cause of this?"

The actual curb-stomping of the child is not just deemed irrelevant but as you can see by these comments:

I'm not going to reply to your insanity anymore, but that video is kino.

The only good thing he posted so far.

It is deemed "kino". It is deemed "good". Most of them find it funny, or hilarious even.

This vicarious R-A-P-E leads to no self-reflection... no self awareness on the part of these WIN-AT-ALL-COST players AUTISTS. Only blatant sacrilegious disregard for of one of humanity's most precious treasures: childhood.

The hypocrisy that these animals indulge in of NEGATING a budding youths blooming passion and love for Yugioh while protecting there own memories, innocence experiences with it is not just pathetic but also mirrors the denial they serve on a silver platter to one another every-time they engage in their twisted ritual of "FUN FOR ME BUT NOT FOR THEE / MY (25 minute solitaire prep) BOARD SAYS YOU CANT PLAY ANYMORE!"

Thread visitor, this atrocity I'm citing occurred over 7 YEARS AGO now. These sick fucks and their autism has only festered and mutated for nearly a decade since. They might as well be pedofiles by now... Truly little wonder that Yugioh that will die with them when this is how they treat unicorns such as that kid.

 

[Incecticyder]

Bored of screwing only each other out of the opportunity to "play" something they mutually feign affection for, the very thought of sinking their fangs into fresh, young blood arouses them. These are "people" that enjoy watching, enjoy re-living the figurative public F-U-C-K-I-N-G of a literal 10 year old child.

Rather than question attitudes, the behaviors, the AUTISM that led them to this tragedy. They absolve themselves of responsibility for its occurrence:

• "I never touched that boy! The terrible format (at the time) was what bent him over!"

They focus on the "meta repercussions" of the debauchery:

• "Oh no! What's gonna get banned cause of this?"

The actual curb-stomping of the child is not just deemed irrelevant but as you can see by these comments:

That curb-stomping lead to a format change that lead in the offending card get banned. You are saying that YGO has had bad formats in the past. What TCG hasn't? YGO has survived bad formats. What are you even on about? Some formats are more fun than others. That happens and it is normal. How about you pulled a more recent format as opposed to a really old and outdated one? Jesus Christ, you brought one from MR4! We are in MR5 now! We survived that shit! Konami listened. Rare that they did but they did. "Oh no! Some formats sucked!" Yes, and other were fun. Everything can look bad if you pick to show only the bad stuff. You complained about the meta but showed an outdated video with outdated rules. That is not the current meta. There are options to counter-play and the offending cards have been banned.

It is deemed "kino". It is deemed "good". Most of them find it funny, or hilarious even.

This vicarious R-A-P-E leads to no self-reflection... no self awareness on the part of these WIN-AT-ALL-COST players AUTISTS. Only blatant sacrilegious disregard for of one of humanity's most precious treasures: childhood.

The hypocrisy that these animals indulge in of NEGATING a budding youths blooming passion and love for Yugioh while protecting there own memories, innocence experiences with it is not just pathetic but also mirrors the denial they serve on a silver platter to one another every-time they engage in their twisted ritual of "FUN FOR ME BUT NOT FOR THEE / MY (25 minute solitaire prep) BOARD SAYS YOU CANT PLAY ANYMORE!"

Thread visitor, this atrocity I'm citing occurred over 7 YEARS AGO now. These sick fucks and their autism has only festered and mutated for nearly a decade since. They might as well be pedofiles by now... Truly little wonder that Yugioh that will die with them when this is how they treat unicorns such as that kid.

I once crushed a massive negate board that prevented me from doing anything with just two very weak cards. Traptrix Atrax and Storming Mirror Force. My opponent had Borreload Savage Dragon that could negate everything as well as other monsters and cards that could also negate stuff. Unfortunately for my opponent, Atrax prevents trap negation and SMF went off without a hitch. My opponents monsters disappeared from the field and he was left baffled. He did the only thing he could and surrendered as by the time he could rebuild his powerful board, my traps would have eaten him alive. I won against a guy that played "solitaire" while I was playing a trap deck during a time when they were considered weak. This is what happens when you know how to defeat a meta deck with a weaker one. I am a casual that plays mostly casual decks and I sent a meta deck packing. I succeeded purely because the guy underestimated me and did not read Atrax but I know what that means and you do not.

The "attrocity" you showed happened during a time when that deck had little counterplay. Now, such play would have been shut down by any competent deck. Effect Veiler is always seeing play, Ghost Ogre would have wrecked FD, so would Imperm and Nibiru. Hell, Spooky Dogwood would have embarrassed this play and it is a weak card. The game evolves. For the better and for the worse. But you do not play the game so you wouldn't know. Stop siting sources you do not understand.

 

[Another Random]

Why is this thread suddenly haunted by the Time Cube guy? Is he going to start claiming that the TCG has four sides and that we are all educated stupid next?

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

I’m torn between thinking he’s rage baiting us or if he’s actually this retarded, and I say that as someone who also bitches about Modern Yugioh.

Granted at this point I’m just skimming his walls of text and rating him autistic, but bringing up my personal lolcow - a man on record as liking one deck formats because “they’re more skill intensive” - isn’t the kind of point he thinks it is.

 

[Incecticyder]

I’m torn between thinking he’s rage baiting us or if he’s actually this retarded, and I say that as someone who also bitches about Modern Yugioh.

Retarded for sure. We get those all the time. And it is always the same talking points. "Synchros are too complicated!" and "I have not played the game but here is how you fix everything: Make it so that even a retard can win a tournament!". They are trying to provide solutions to problems they did not understand. If they were coders, they would be script kiddies.

 

[Spooky Dogwood]

It is deemed "kino". It is deemed "good". Most of them find it funny, or hilarious even.

The cherry on top is that kid had insane luck and would have 100% won game 1 if he were playing any decently constructed deck and probably would have taken the entire match.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

I’m torn between thinking he’s rage baiting us or if he’s actually this retarded, and I say that as someone who also bitches about Modern Yugioh.

He's a 2025 register, as a 2024 register I've seen new users get more and more retarded by the month, let alone the next year, that's how bad the state of the internet is.
The chances of him being a ragebaiter putting this much effort into a shitpost is very low these days, especially with how easy it is to set him to ignore. What's sad is that if he wasn't so much of a sperg and actually understood the game he has problems with, he'd have far more actual discussion, because he's getting people who think modern Yu-Gi-Oh is in a terrible spot like myself to turn away from him.
INB4 "WELL SINCE YOU DISAGREED WITH MY FAGGOTRY YOU ACTUALLY LOVE MODERN YGO!"

 

[UtadaWasabi2]

I still believe in my heart that he is a ragebaiter.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

I still believe in my heart that he is a ragebaiter.

Probably better for your faith in humanity that he's purposefully being retarded rather than actually retarded.

 

[penava]

That curb-stomping lead to a format change that lead in the offending card get banned.

Not just banned, the card got its text completely changed, which is even rarer. Pre-errata Firewall is one of the most degenerate cards in the game's history, it wouldn't be surprising for it to warp the format if it came back even with no obvious place for it.

The "attrocity" you showed happened during a time when that deck had little counterplay. Now, such play would have been shut down by any competent deck. Effect Veiler is always seeing play, Ghost Ogre would have wrecked FD, so would Imperm and Nibiru

To this point though, danger dark world has always been a deck where you can highroll and/or reach a critical mass where it's not stopped by anything short of droll or a hard read with multiple handtraps. Pre-errata firewall wasn't a hard once per turn on either effect, so you could simply make another. Even if it were limited, it could bounce itself in response to veiler, ogre, or imperm. Nibiru might sound good but even setting aside tri-gate or apollousa, the deck can absolutely keep going with enough dangers in hand.

 

[Incecticyder]

He's a 2025 register, as a 2024 register I've seen new users get more and more retarded by the month, let alone the next year, that's how bad the state of the internet is.
The chances of him being a ragebaiter putting this much effort into a shitpost is very low these days, especially with how easy it is to set him to ignore. What's sad is that if he wasn't so much of a sperg and actually understood the game he has problems with, he'd have far more actual discussion, because he's getting people who think modern Yu-Gi-Oh is in a terrible spot like myself to turn away from him.
INB4 "WELL SINCE YOU DISAGREED WITH MY FAGGOTRY YOU ACTUALLY LOVE MODERN YGO!"

There are problems with Modern YGO but a whole lot of them are stemming from players that are unwilling to learn how to counter the stronger decks. It is always "ban this!", not "how do I counter this?".

To this point though, danger dark world has always been a deck where you can highroll and/or reach a critical mass where it's not stopped by anything short of droll or a hard read with multiple handtraps. Pre-errata firewall wasn't a hard once per turn on either effect, so you could simply make another. Even if it were limited, it could bounce itself in response to veiler, ogre, or imperm. Nibiru might sound good but even setting aside tri-gate or apollousa, the deck can absolutely keep going with enough dangers in hand.

It depends what you hit. Also, the point stands. The kid did not have a well constructed deck and there were a lot of counters to FD. Now, there is even more. In the end, you are supposed to shut down the deck before it can get going. Anyone who plays the game would know that.

 

[Senwosret III]

*deranged retardation*

Nigger, please stop, I have only so many trashcans to negrate you with.

Probably better for your faith in humanity that he's purposefully being retarded rather than actually retarded.

At this point, I'm honestly betting on him being a genuine retard. I've tried not to engage, but his condescending writing makes it seem authentic. I've played this game since 2005 and this brand of dumbassery is so recurrent, every so often you get a new guy trying to make the game braindead to "fix it".

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

At this point, I'm honestly betting on him being a genuine retard. I've tried not to engage, but his condescending writing makes it seem authentic.

Definitely recommend setting him to ignore then, cleans up the thread and helps not waste both your time and energy.

I've played this game since 2005 and this brand of dumbassery is so recurrent, every so often you get a new guy trying to make the game braindead to "fix it".

2003-2004 for me, first got interested when I played Stairway to a Destined Duel. Been here ever since so it makes what this retard writes even more funny.