Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

One on hand, I don't like that NATO members are having this sort of friction.

One the other hand, Germany has been suspected in being the leaky link in nearly even Russian intelligence counter-move, so fuck the krauts in particular.
The German Taurus leak was pretty damning for Germany's intelligence capabilities, then again, the leaks from the Trump administration simply shows boomers (and retarded millennials like Vance) can't get into cybersecurity. That being said, the Pentagon could still inform Germany on less serious stuff (ex: "heads up, we're gonna stop weapons to Ukraine for a while") and in turn the Pentagon should appreciate knowing what Germany is up to.
Also the politician they interviewed was a West German college commie.
Now he wants TZD; people can change.
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Given that Germany is toying with conscription to even have an 'army', and has had numerous scandals about supplying its armed forces with very basic shit like boots and rifles, I wonder if that was Trump's usual special-ed antics or the Pentagon doing the math and deciding that the former wolf of Europe is such a toothless neutered puppy that they aren't worth talking to.
What you're saying describes Germany pre-2022; the wolf is coming back with rearmament.
 
Sentry guns improving
Is there any info going over how the sentries identify targets? As a bleeding heart I can’t stand when the birds and the animals get caught ip in our human conflicts. It would be interesting if it could be tracked to see how many animals are injured by mines/ guns/ explosions just to further highlight how terrible it is to wage war on your neighbor.

Outside of smaller critters and their predators
I dont see many land animals sticking around in an active war zone, but birds are a little different due to flight allowing them to travel across it quicker and for the most part safer. These sentries would put that thought to rest.

That or in 4 months we’ll be seeing drones in little bird costumes to fool the computers.
 
Russia doing Russian things:
My money is on them trying to make the roaches pissed at Ukraine.
 
Now he wants TZD; people can change.
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I said it before, and I'll say it again: German generals discussing a lightning strike into Kursk was not on my bingo card for the 21st century.

Outside of smaller critters and their predators
I dont see many land animals sticking around in an active war zone,
I'm mostly worried about the Pallas's cats. The war seems to have sent them completely batshit.

That or in 4 months we’ll be seeing drones in little bird costumes to fool the computers.
Always have been.



BBC engaging in a little light kremlinology: What latest Ukraine talks reveal about Putin's state of mind. Their conclusion is, he's in denial about the economic realities of his position and won't make a single concession.

Belgium is concerned about the legalities of using frozen Russian assets to aid Ukraine: Belgium urges Europe to drop plan for frozen Russian assets to aid Ukraine. They do have a point. Almost all the frozen assets are held in Belgium, so they will bear the brunt of any post-war legal attacks while the rest of the EU gets to fanny around and pretend to be moral about it. Typical EU realpolitik in action.
 
I dont see many land animals sticking around in an active war zone, but birds are a little different due to flight allowing them to travel across it quicker and for the most part safer.
We also have information on the devastating effect of the war on marine animals. Thousands of dolphins have washed up onto Black Sea beaches. Major causes include the Russian use of sonar and chemical pollution from the destruction of objects near the coast. The situation was worse in the earlier part of the war when there was more fighting there, but sonar is still actively used..

BBC article from Jan 2023:
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When they put all the numbers together, 2,500 dead dolphins had been reported to have washed up on shore by May 2022. But because most dead dolphins simply sink to the bottom of the sea and are never counted, Rusev believes the actual number is much higher.
That's just the first months.

See also this from September of this year:

What’s Killing the Black Sea Dolphins? Marine Scientists Speak

A few excerpts:
Numbers of scientists said that the Russia-Ukraine war is the primary factor responsible for rising dolphin deaths in the Black Sea. Russia’s armed invasion of Ukraine involves, among other things, unprecedented destruction of the environment.
There were also strong sea bombardments at the time of de-occupation, the shocks of which were even felt by individuals on shore. Ivan Rusev added that when a bomb drops into the ocean, dolphins, being extremely sensitive animals, would immediately rise to the top of the water and develop bends like scuba divers.
Infectious diseases are one of them. Infectious disease that is caused by microorganisms that penetrate the ocean in consequence of the destruction of agricultural buildings, for example, livestock farms. Severe poisoning from chemical substances in munitions that have found their way into the ocean can also be a cause of dolphins’ death.

Acoustic trauma is also one of the key reason because of which dolphins are dying rapidly. According to scientists, here it is quite simply the result of the Russia-Ukraine war actions and submarines. A hydro-biologist said that Russia’s radars work on the same frequencies on which dolphins hear their ultrasonic echolocation signals.

Due to this, dolphins can suffer hemorrhages, just as a human does in a stroke. And it can be the key reason for their death. But, naturally, the dolphins’ deaths in large scale does not preclude the simultaneous action of a number of factors. In the event, for instance, that simultaneously there is running some infection, intoxications and acoustic traumas take place.

So yes, many innocent cetaceans are suffering and dying because of our human wars.
 
Belgium is concerned about the legalities of using frozen Russian assets to aid Ukraine: Belgium urges Europe to drop plan for frozen Russian assets to aid Ukraine. They do have a point. Almost all the frozen assets are held in Belgium, so they will bear the brunt of any post-war legal attacks while the rest of the EU gets to fanny around and pretend to be moral about it. Typical EU realpolitik in action.
You really can't blame them. They looked at the laws and concluded that if they touch the principal they will get fucked later once a million different actors with Russia at the helm sues them. The EU can't and won't provide any guarantees that this won't happen.

There's something else they have been doing for a few months now, successfully and legally; and to Belgium's credit they didn't really moralize much. They used the dividends and interest from these frozen assets, which still amounts to a nice couple billion euros, to aid Ukraine. Completely legal due to the sanctions.
 
You really can't blame them. They looked at the laws and concluded that if they touch the principal they will get fucked later once a million different actors with Russia at the helm sues them. The EU can't and won't provide any guarantees that this won't happen.

There's something else they have been doing for a few months now, successfully and legally; and to Belgium's credit they didn't really moralize much. They used the dividends and interest from these frozen assets, which still amounts to a nice couple billion euros, to aid Ukraine. Completely legal due to the sanctions.
I suppose Belgium are making a fair point. There's no real evidence that the war is working realistically towards a heavy defeat of the Kremlin such that these assets could be surrendered by a defeated kremlin as reparations. Ukraine can only hold the line and its partners seem to be doing not much more than that, aside from opportunistically snatching for pennies goodies like Lukoil and other overseas Russian business unit sold in fire sales. Somehow they might dissuade Putin from waging war on Ukraine, but that's much good for Belgium. If Europe and the US were to set a clear and enforced standard other states might accept it with grumbles. This is not happening. The US under Trump is not clearly supporting any of this. Would the US after Trump back this seizing of assets? Unknowable. Unfortunately and realistically, Belgium sees a shredding of their business reputation for very limited return barring some Euro pols feeling really swell about how good they are.

Zelensky meeting with Witkoff and Kushner cancelled after Putin rejects deal - Independent archive / original link - Independent

Will that result in Trump supporting Ukraine until Putin is willing to make a reasonable deal? Unfortunately that's not clear.

CAATSA makes it hard for Trump to give sanctions relief to Putin - Kyiv Post archive / Kyiv Post original link

Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act – CAATSA makes it well nigh impossible for Trump to grant sweeping sanctions relief to Putin without Congressional approval. Trump is said to hate this law he signed with grumbles in 2017.

Poland calls for clear funding for Ukraine - Ukrainska Pravda archive / Ukrainska Pravda original link
Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski has said that the European Union's decision on stable sources of funding for Ukraine over the coming years can decide the future of Russia's war against Ukraine.
 
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A few choice articles for today....

Russian Soldier Shoots Seven Comrades After Signing New Military Contract

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Ta treść jest prywatna.

Please God make this happen.....

Bell AH-1Z Viper (and UH-1Y Venom) for Ukraine
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Ta treść jest prywatna.

And finally....

British Army Veteran Reportedly Exposed as Russian Spy Inside Ukraine’s Military
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Ta treść jest prywatna.

Edit- Russian "Molniya" drone fail:
 
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Just the fact that they're still making helicopters based on the H-1 platform makes me giggle a little bit. It's in a race with the BUFF to see which one gets warp nacelles first.
UH-1s will last long enough for them to get warp nacelles since their production never ended. BUFFs with their production shut down roughly a half a century ago and most of them scrapped for nuclear arms reduction treaties, realistically at best would see the 22th Century in some flyable state. Although it greatly depends on the B-21 production not being fucked with and other bomber projects being worked on being successful or not.
 
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Putin is visiting India to foster the natural alliance of two shitholes, and they made some welcome paintings for him:

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You really can't blame them. They looked at the laws and concluded that if they touch the principal they will get fucked later once a million different actors with Russia at the helm sues them. The EU can't and won't provide any guarantees that this won't happen.
Yeah, the EU should guarantee they'll collectively repay the value of the frozen assets as soon as Russia fully reimburses Ukraine for the damage they've caused. It shouldn't be solely on Belgium.

However, I can blame their dipshit prime minister for straight up saying that Russia losing would be undesirable because of inStAbiLity or whatever. Also, I guess Putin told him that he would personally face consequences forever, which is a long time.
 
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Babe wake up, new set of absolute banger Hungarian war psychosis propaganda billboards just dropped featuring 6 fingered Zelenskyyy. No, really, they flooded the entire country- you can't walk five steps and piss in a random direction without hitting any of these megabillboards.

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(LEFT SIDE BILLBOARD) Brussels would finance the war with YOUR TAXES. Protest against tax raises!
(RIGHT SIDE BILLBOARD) Together for war! (Pictured: Ursula von der Leyen, Zelenskyy, Magyar Péter [the opposition candidate for PM] Ruszin-Szendi Romulusz[retired general and ex-chief of staff, likely the opposition's candidate for minister of Defense. Sympathetic to Ukraine, apparently got dethroned for ending a meeting with Slava Ukraini])
The signs the characters are holding up say from left to right: More weapons, tax raises, conscription.
They didn't even put much effort into it, it's just AI slop (Zelenskyy is hugging Ursula with six fingers, lmao).
Also my favorite part is when THEY, and by they I mean the state party governing with absolute authority and the mandate of heaven for the past 16 years (and still is) is protesting against the tax increases of a party who hasn't been elected yet and haven't even announced any plans to raise taxes. You really couldn't make satire better than this.
Reminder: Hungary has the highest VAT in the world, thanks to Fidesz raising it in 2012. Like, actually, at 27%. AFAIK no other country in the world has a flat VAT this high to my knowledge.

The populace's reaction:
(Graffiti says: FIDESZ is lying! Lies!)
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The White House has published its new National Security Strategy, and various hot takes are being posted about it, for example:

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It doesn't actually contain anything as shocking as "destruction of the EU" as an official policy goal. To avoid such sensationalism, I'd encourage people to just scroll through it and draw their own conclusions (the whole strategy is only 29 pages). I'll paste here the part that's relevant to this thread:

American officials have become used to thinking about European problems in
terms of insufficient military spending and economic stagnation. There is truth to
this, but Europe’s real problems are even deeper.

Continental Europe has been losing share of global GDP—down from 25 percent
in 1990 to 14 percent today—partly owing to national and transnational regulations
that undermine creativity and industriousness.

But this economic decline is eclipsed by the real and more stark prospect of
civilizational erasure. The larger issues facing Europe include activities of the
European Union and other transnational bodies that undermine political liberty and
sovereignty, migration policies that are transforming the continent and creating
strife, censorship of free speech and suppression of political opposition, cratering
birthrates, and loss of national identities and self-confidence.

Should present trends continue, the continent will be unrecognizable in 20 years or
less. As such, it is far from obvious whether certain European countries will have
economies and militaries strong enough to remain reliable allies. Many of these
nations are currently doubling down on their present path. We want Europe to
remain European, to regain its civilizational self-confidence, and to abandon its
failed focus on regulatory suffocation.

This lack of self-confidence is most evident in Europe’s relationship with Russia.
European allies enjoy a significant hard power advantage over Russia by almost
every measure, save nuclear weapons. As a result of Russia’s war in Ukraine,
European relations with Russia are now deeply attenuated, and many Europeans
regard Russia as an existential threat. Managing European relations with Russia
will require significant U.S. diplomatic engagement, both to reestablish conditions
of strategic stability across the Eurasian landmass, and to mitigate the risk of
conflict between Russia and European states.

It is a core interest of the United States to negotiate an expeditious cessation of
hostilities in Ukraine, in order to stabilize European economies, prevent
unintended escalation or expansion of the war, and reestablish strategic stability
with Russia, as well as to enable the post-hostilities reconstruction of Ukraine to
enable its survival as a viable state.

The Ukraine War has had the perverse effect of increasing Europe’s, especially
Germany’s, external dependencies. Today, German chemical companies are
building some of the world’s largest processing plants in China, using Russian gas
that they cannot obtain at home. The Trump Administration finds itself at odds with
European officials who hold unrealistic expectations for the war perched in
unstable minority governments, many of which trample on basic principles of
democracy to suppress opposition. A large European majority wants peace, yet that
desire is not translated into policy, in large measure because of those governments’
subversion of democratic processes. This is strategically important to the
United States precisely because European states cannot reform themselves if they
are trapped in political crisis.

Yet Europe remains strategically and culturally vital to the United States.
Transatlantic trade remains one of the pillars of the global economy and of
American prosperity. European sectors from manufacturing to technology to
energy remain among the world’s most robust. Europe is home to cutting-edge
scientific research and world-leading cultural institutions. Not only can we not
afford to write Europe off—doing so would be self-defeating for what this strategy
aims to achieve.

American diplomacy should continue to stand up for genuine democracy, freedom
of expression, and unapologetic celebrations of European nations’ individual
character and history. America encourages its political allies in Europe to promote
this revival of spirit, and the growing influence of patriotic European parties indeed
gives cause for great optimism.

Our goal should be to help Europe correct its current trajectory. We will need a
strong Europe to help us successfully compete, and to work in concert with us to
prevent any adversary from dominating Europe.

America is, understandably, sentimentally attached to the European continent—
and, of course, to Britain and Ireland. The character of these countries is also
strategically important because we count upon creative, capable, confident,
democratic allies to establish conditions of stability and security. We want to work
with aligned countries that want to restore their former greatness.

Over the long term, it is more than plausible that within a few decades at the latest,
certain NATO members will become majority non-European. As such, it is an open
question whether they will view their place in the world, or their alliance with the
United States, in the same way as those who signed the NATO charter.
Our broad policy for Europe should prioritize:

• Reestablishing conditions of stability within Europe and strategic stability
with Russia;
• Enabling Europe to stand on its own feet and operate as a group of aligned
sovereign nations, including by taking primary responsibility for its own
defense, without being dominated by any adversarial power;
• Cultivating resistance to Europe’s current trajectory within European
nations;
• Opening European markets to U.S. goods and services and ensuring fair
treatment of U.S. workers and businesses;
• Building up the healthy nations of Central, Eastern, and Southern Europe
through commercial ties, weapons sales, political collaboration, and cultural
and educational exchanges;
• Ending the perception, and preventing the reality, of NATO as a perpetually
expanding alliance; and
• Encouraging Europe to take action to combat mercantilist overcapacity,
technological theft, cyber espionage, and other hostile economic practices.
 
Sweden will cut development aid to Zimbabwe, Tanzania, Mozambique, Liberia, and Bolivia and divert the money to Ukraine instead.

Sweden to cut development aid to five countries, divert money to Ukraine​

STOCKHOLM, Dec 5 (Reuters) - Sweden will phase out development aid to five countries in coming years and use the money to increase support for Ukraine, the government said on Friday.

The Nordic country plans to phase out aid to Zimbabwe, Tanzania, Mozambique, Liberia and Bolivia, Minister for International Development Cooperation and Foreign Trade Benjamin Dousa said.

"Ukraine is Sweden's most important foreign policy and aid policy priority a-5nd therefore the government is going to increase aid to Ukraine to at least 10 billion crowns ($1.06 billion) in 2026," Dousa said.

"There isn't a secret printing press for banknotes for aid purposes and the money has to come from somewhere."

The government said the measures would free up more than 2 billion crowns over the next two years that could be diverted to Ukraine, to be used in such projects as rebuilding the country's energy infrastructure.

Sweden has already cut aid to more than 10 countries since the current government took power in 2022, including Burkina Faso and Mali.
Sweden is a major donor of development and humanitarian aid, with a budget of 56 billion crowns a year over the last three years.

The government has said it will cut that to 53 billion crowns a year for the period 2026-2028 and has reprioritised spending, including using some of the money to pay for the costs of immigration and repatriation of migrants.
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They can ask Russia to send them development aid instead of leeching off of the money of the Swedish (and other Western) taxpayers year after year with little to no results to show for it.
 
It's deeply frustrating that journoscum abandoned pretenses of objectivity and credulity especially when it comes Orange Man because it makes parsing news so fucking difficult to gauge with regard to whether the outlet/journo(s) writing it are bothering to think critically about the story as far as legitimacy and validity goes versus STOP THE PRESSES, HEARD FROM UNNAMED SOURCES SOMETHIN BAD ABOUT DRUMPF.

Yes this could have been written on almost any thread on this site but for me it feels especially aggravating in the context of the Russian invasion because every time I read something I have to fucking triple check where it's coming from thanks to people grinding axes. The amount of so-called OSINT accounts out there that just crash out whenever 47 or his goons are invoked is wild.

The aforementioned comments are not counter-endorsements either: it drives me nuts that Trump is not swinging a huge dick around and just bitch-slapping the Russian slavniggers back to their aids-ridden hellholes in a lovely display of actually projecting Daddy's Home power, but alas, here we are. Every day that goes by is another day Ukrainians (and yes, degenerate russians, jeets, nogs, norks etc.) die because a botox'ed Russian midget gangster is nostalgic for days that never were and decided that revanchism sounds nice.

Oh and Russia shelled another maternity/neonatal hospital but don't worry, it was a secret NATO base.
 
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