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TMI but idc, I had something similar to this as a very young child. Like, my brain would force the absolute worst violent and sexual thoughts and images into my mind. It wasn’t something I wanted to act on and it made me sick to my stomach to have those intrusive thoughts. I also had those stupid “wash your hands xyz times or your family will die” thoughts but those were pretty tame in comparison. It was immensely distressing and I never told a soul for obvious reasons.
And then one day, it just vanished, and I’d completely forgotten about those years until I read someone describe the condition a few years ago, then I had that Charlie Brown moment:
I’m sure actually terrible people lie and use it as cover, but I never, ever would’ve believed in the condition myself if I hadn’t experienced it as a kid. Tldr brains are weird and I’m incredibly lucky that whatever brand of OCD I had didn’t follow me into adulthood.
And then one day, it just vanished, and I’d completely forgotten about those years until I read someone describe the condition a few years ago, then I had that Charlie Brown moment:
I’m sure actually terrible people lie and use it as cover, but I never, ever would’ve believed in the condition myself if I hadn’t experienced it as a kid. Tldr brains are weird and I’m incredibly lucky that whatever brand of OCD I had didn’t follow me into adulthood.
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Nothing pisses off the transgender community quite like restricted access to children, which is probably one of its freakier qualities. Take this post as an example of how many of them attempt to flip the script on who the real creeper is - not only bizarrely cultish in language, but also comically immature. I thought we all grew out of the idea of "I know you are, but what am I?" as a comeback by our teen years?
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A HSTS (i.e., a homosexual man) is right bothered when a bloke points out the hypocrisy of his dating preferences. While it's always fair to find tattoos and piercings unappealing, you do have to admit it's a bit comical coming from a crossdresser.
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And finally: why do some of the pronoun persuasion prefer those outside of the club to those inside of it? Well, let's see what the truscum/transmedicalists have to say about the matter.
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A TiF seeks out advice on how to mimic being kicked in the balls she doesn't have should the time ever come. This whole post is hilarious for anyone with pets because animal care as a field is absolutely teeming with TiFs! Honestly, I would assume any relatively short man working with animals sporting a patchy beard is secretly AFAB, that's how commonplace they are. (No offense to any hobbits who may be reading this post.)
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Barely old enough to vote, this little dood has already contracted genital herpes and now wonders if this will get in the way of her dream of scissoring other pooners. Jarringly, most of the commenters treat it as if it's no more serious than catching a cold, with one user literally writing "Eh, herpes is herpes." I'd love a Venn diagram between how many of them think "herpes is herpes" while being adamantly pro-masking.kicked in the “nuts”?
tagging NSFW just in case lol
anyone else with a physical job ever get worried that they get kicked/hit/etc in the groin area and not notice, and someone else notice? i don’t pack so ig it would be obvious if someone was paying attention. and even with a packer, what if it moves?
context; i work in vet med so yk im dealing with animals that dont want to be there and dont want me handling them. im short, there have been several times where a great dane decides to stand up and i am gracefully flung across the room. this is the first time im cis passing in a work environment and only now im thinking about this
i’m also accidentally stealth, and dont prefer to fully hide my identity so i do see some people finding out eventually in other ways. this is mainly out of curiosity, anyone else have this experience before? how did it go for you? i couldn’t imagine trying to pretend to be in pain like that, i am not a good actor under pressure
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Putting the "tard" in Cotard's: a TiF with bipolar disorder, excoriation disorder, ADHD and supposedly walking corpse syndrome is curious to know if her brain being fucked six ways from Sunday might get in the way of her transition. I'm actually completely on board with her poonin' out if just because she'll probably get the mental health equivalent of Three Stooges Syndrome.
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After a few months on his bimbo pills, a TiM believes his new inability to keep a secure grip on anything is due to his hands softening like the tender hide of a freshly-brushed kitten rather than making the logical conclusion that estrogen is fucking up his sense of dexterity like crazy. Presuming that this is real, of course - it sounds like he can certainly maintain a tight enough grip to jerk off.
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A tale of two euphorias: please enjoy 2 separate posts in which men and women who pretend to be the opposite discuss the things that make them quelle euphorique! Take a shot for every post that makes you cringe so hard, you develop a second sphincter.
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[–]acidalia-planitia
i’m a labor and delivery nurse, and i get SO euphoric when patients request not to have me as their nurse because they want female providers only
[–]AhoyOllie
Hand veins I still can't get over how euphoria inducing having them is.
[–]despereaux1312
anybody else with handwriting dysphoria lol?
[–]weltenweiter_wandrer
Not sure if this counts as weirdly specific but watching my guy friends greet other men with these bro type handshakes while not greeting me that way literally ruins my whole day
[–]ThreeDucksInAPark
I like scouring pinterest for memes, but it gives me lowkey dysphoria since it's women-dominated.
Wearing a buttoned shirt and rolling up my sleeves though, now that's euphoria to me.
[–]Reigicula
Skin care makes me dysphoric. I know a lot of men actually do it and I have a lot of acne so I'm trying to take care of myself, and I know it will get worse once I start T. But at the same time acne gives me a bit of euphoria (but not when there is too much, then I feel gross)
Also just trying to take care of myself generally gives me dysphoria I feel like that is too girly. By taking care of myself I mean showering regularly, taking care of my hair (I have long hair), skin care, dressing appropriately, etc. Tho having long hair weirdly makes me more euphoric than having short hair. I strive to be the kind of man I personally find attractive and I love long hair on guys. (I'm also a metal head).
[–]aJ_13th
Are we sure about unhinged? Cause...
(Euphoria) Having a preferred self offing method. i get the impulse to bullet my own head when well...the ideations flare up. We don't have guns here and I'm actually passive. But the image of it lmaoo because the reason most suicides succeed for men is because they use a gun.
[–]Ok_Art6867
My 14 year old brothers T-shirts, cause wdym they're three sizes larger then mine, a 19 year old, give me so much dysphoria when im putting them away for him, but so much euphoria when im wearing them
[–]Asper_Maybe
Putting your shirt on before your pants = female
Putting your pants on before your shirt = male
I think about this everytime I get changed in public and it's so annoying
[–]Green-Information952
Trans male: I feel incredibly euphoric when I act like a "feminine" and when I'm drunk, I act zesty. Mainly feel euphoria because my friends jokingly call me a faggot for this behavior lolThe freedom to experiment with my gender expression gives me joy, but sometimes I feel like I look like an over-acting white chick and that makes things a bit sad
[–]MenheraFriends
Wearing wigs makes me dysphoric, but wearing a babydoll tee or crop top and makeup causes euphoria.
[–]gummytiddy
The few times I have enjoyed sex (I’m on the asexual spectrum), it was because I sat on my partner’s hips facing them, with their dick between my legs. I like pretending it’s my penis. Luckily my girlfriend laughed when I told her I did this to her
A Jewish lady who would come in to check our Kosher bakery and turn on the ovens (this is called a mashgiach) would bring in her little rescue chihuahua. The first day, our mashgiach said “she’s afraid of men”, then the dog immediately barked viciously at me. I was a bit sad she never let me pet her but it made my day every time
[–]TastyLeeches
I used to go into transphobic discord servers and tell them I was a trans woman so they’d ‘misgender’ me and tell me that I’d never be a real woman
[–]idwtdy
Older cis men chatting me up and dropping random bits of misogyny and sexism in the convo. Confirms that I'm cis-passing.
[–]the-elder-scroll
Im a pet stylist so the dogs who are scared of men are usually scared of me and that makes me feel euphoric but also sad lol
[–]Substantial-Wave8840
Having diagnosed PTSD gives me euphoria. Yet having panic attacks, a common symptom of ptsd, makes me dysphoric. I think it’s toxic masculinity
Also my feelings about my hands. It’s basically “I wanna be visibly gay so I decked out my hands with nail polish and pride jewelry and that makes me euphoric, but don’t look at my tiny weird misshapen hands that look too feminine with jewelry, you perceiving them gives me dysphoria.”
[–]just_a_space_cadet-
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Once my boss had to specify that I shouldn't touch the dead raccoon in the dumpster. The euphoria from assuming I'm that boy dumb is amazing
[–]Atsuki_Grayson
(Euphoric) When i clip my nails with a nail clipper
(Dysphoric) Scrolling through stuff on pinterest and using :3
[–]Responsible-Skill253
Having a dirty bathroom makes me euphoric. I still had left over undercut trimmings on my counter and I had the thought of "ewe. It looks like a dirty man's bathroom" and then I realized IM the dirty man!!!
The fucking voice pitch raise whenever you pick up the phone from a stranger used to make me so dysphoric until I realized my male coworkers do the exact same thing.
[–]ToxicaMaginfica
toxic masculinity makes me euphoric.
i’m a labor and delivery nurse, and i get SO euphoric when patients request not to have me as their nurse because they want female providers only
I’m a medical student on OBGYN right now and it finally happened to me!
[–]AhoyOllie
Hand veins I still can't get over how euphoria inducing having them is.
I haven't developed them yet and it's driving me nuts!
[–]despereaux1312
anybody else with handwriting dysphoria lol?
Yes 
i generally prefer cursive over print for day to day writing, but I hate how loopy and even mine is. Everyone assumes it’s like a grandma’s handwriting or something 
i generally prefer cursive over print for day to day writing, but I hate how loopy and even mine is. Everyone assumes it’s like a grandma’s handwriting or something
my handwriting was slow and inefficient so i asked for writing reference of my partner’s handwriting and then deliberately stole it
honestly i used to lol. when i was a kid, my parents forced me to do a lot of handwriting practice, like they'd make me copy books and stuff, and taught me to keep my letter widths/hieghts consistent. then i started working construction, and like 9 out of every 10 guys have disgusting hand writing, but 1 out of every 10 guys had like the most beautiful, neat, "girly" handwriting i'd ever seen, and i stopped feeling weird about it lol. especially the material handlers. that, and reading historical documents where men were writing in the most beautiful cursive.
Luckily I have my dad's handwriting, so ig I have handwriting euphoria
[–]weltenweiter_wandrer
Not sure if this counts as weirdly specific but watching my guy friends greet other men with these bro type handshakes while not greeting me that way literally ruins my whole day
[–]ThreeDucksInAPark
I like scouring pinterest for memes, but it gives me lowkey dysphoria since it's women-dominated.
Wearing a buttoned shirt and rolling up my sleeves though, now that's euphoria to me.
[–]Reigicula
Skin care makes me dysphoric. I know a lot of men actually do it and I have a lot of acne so I'm trying to take care of myself, and I know it will get worse once I start T. But at the same time acne gives me a bit of euphoria (but not when there is too much, then I feel gross)
Also just trying to take care of myself generally gives me dysphoria I feel like that is too girly. By taking care of myself I mean showering regularly, taking care of my hair (I have long hair), skin care, dressing appropriately, etc. Tho having long hair weirdly makes me more euphoric than having short hair. I strive to be the kind of man I personally find attractive and I love long hair on guys. (I'm also a metal head).
[–]aJ_13th
Are we sure about unhinged? Cause...
(Euphoria) Having a preferred self offing method. i get the impulse to bullet my own head when well...the ideations flare up. We don't have guns here and I'm actually passive. But the image of it lmaoo because the reason most suicides succeed for men is because they use a gun.
That is definitely the most unhinged one lol
Kinda relatable too tho
People asked unhinged and now I'm getting downvoted for delivering unhinged. They should be careful what they ask
On the opposite side of this: even before I knew I was trans I hated that I leaned towards pills because it's a "stereotypically feminine" method. Extremely funny and def unhinged
You know what this is the most unhinged ones I’ve seen so far but now I’m genuinely curious. Is it male or female brained that I romanticized drowning myself? 
same. i super romantasized killing myself with a gun when i was suicidal. i think it's not just the stats, but all the media re-inforcing the idea too. kept on getting beat over the head with the refrain that i was just a confused/hysterical girl and not trans, so i took a lot of comfort in projecting my pain on the archytype of a tortured man instead.
i'm a hunter and i switched to bows because my friend begged me to get rid of my guns. extremely lucky they saw it coming because after 8 yrs of passively thinking about it, the year after i sold them i became actively suicidal. tried to kill myself by hypothermia, and if it was a gun, i wouldn't have come out of it with just some black blisters when they noticed i was missing.
[–]Ok_Art6867
My 14 year old brothers T-shirts, cause wdym they're three sizes larger then mine, a 19 year old, give me so much dysphoria when im putting them away for him, but so much euphoria when im wearing them
[–]Asper_Maybe
Putting your shirt on before your pants = female
Putting your pants on before your shirt = male
I think about this everytime I get changed in public and it's so annoying
[–]Green-Information952
Trans male: I feel incredibly euphoric when I act like a "feminine" and when I'm drunk, I act zesty. Mainly feel euphoria because my friends jokingly call me a faggot for this behavior lolThe freedom to experiment with my gender expression gives me joy, but sometimes I feel like I look like an over-acting white chick and that makes things a bit sad
[–]MenheraFriends
Wearing wigs makes me dysphoric, but wearing a babydoll tee or crop top and makeup causes euphoria.
[–]gummytiddy
The few times I have enjoyed sex (I’m on the asexual spectrum), it was because I sat on my partner’s hips facing them, with their dick between my legs. I like pretending it’s my penis. Luckily my girlfriend laughed when I told her I did this to her
A Jewish lady who would come in to check our Kosher bakery and turn on the ovens (this is called a mashgiach) would bring in her little rescue chihuahua. The first day, our mashgiach said “she’s afraid of men”, then the dog immediately barked viciously at me. I was a bit sad she never let me pet her but it made my day every time
[–]TastyLeeches
I used to go into transphobic discord servers and tell them I was a trans woman so they’d ‘misgender’ me and tell me that I’d never be a real woman
[–]idwtdy
Older cis men chatting me up and dropping random bits of misogyny and sexism in the convo. Confirms that I'm cis-passing.
[–]the-elder-scroll
Im a pet stylist so the dogs who are scared of men are usually scared of me and that makes me feel euphoric but also sad lol
[–]Substantial-Wave8840
Having diagnosed PTSD gives me euphoria. Yet having panic attacks, a common symptom of ptsd, makes me dysphoric. I think it’s toxic masculinity
Also my feelings about my hands. It’s basically “I wanna be visibly gay so I decked out my hands with nail polish and pride jewelry and that makes me euphoric, but don’t look at my tiny weird misshapen hands that look too feminine with jewelry, you perceiving them gives me dysphoria.”
[–]just_a_space_cadet-
1-10-23 10-3-25 [score hidden] 2 hours ago Once my boss had to specify that I shouldn't touch the dead raccoon in the dumpster. The euphoria from assuming I'm that boy dumb is amazing
[–]Atsuki_Grayson
(Euphoric) When i clip my nails with a nail clipper
(Dysphoric) Scrolling through stuff on pinterest and using :3
[–]Responsible-Skill253
Having a dirty bathroom makes me euphoric. I still had left over undercut trimmings on my counter and I had the thought of "ewe. It looks like a dirty man's bathroom" and then I realized IM the dirty man!!!
The fucking voice pitch raise whenever you pick up the phone from a stranger used to make me so dysphoric until I realized my male coworkers do the exact same thing.
[–]ToxicaMaginfica
toxic masculinity makes me euphoric.
[–]FlimsyWillow84
I broke myself of the headnod habit. Instead I smile and wave in a feminine way.
[–]2bEm9
Oooh, I like this question. Screw society and it's gaslighting.
So, at some point early on I saw a transphobic meme. It was a bunch of heads of state for something somewhere with a bunch of women politicians (one was trans). In the pic, every cis looking woman had her feet parallel, the trans woman did not, and the meme was like "spot the difference?"
It even seemed like bs at the time, but I still trained myself to always keep my feet parallel (and still to this day
). Here's the thing, I've fact checked this irl soooo many times, it's definitely complete and utter bs. Mayyybe it's more natural for peeps with a lower center of gravity, but there's definitely no consistency across or within gender for your average person or group.
[–]Darkeldar1959
Reading romance novels. It started while I was recovering from my GRS in the hospital, I had run out of reading material, so I requested books from the volunteer desk. One was a special ops novel, the other was a trapped in cabin romance. I thought I'd give the romance a try.
Now, I'm reading constantly from books on my phone. And they are almost always a romance novel. I found a author that I really like.
[–]translunainjection
I taught myself to speak the way that I think ALL WOMEN do, with complete sentences, being unsure of yourself, and deferential language. "I'd like to __" "Could you __?" Please and thank you! "___, right?" And the ultimate in femme girlboss authority: "I need you to ____".
Then... noticed how women actually speak. Back to "Gimme that!" now.
[–]eviekimmy
Growing up I internalized this idea that men had messy hand writing and women had neat handwriting so I literally spent years changing my handwriting until it looked more aesthetic and neat.
[–]CuteWillow13
Playing with my hair and curling them with my fingers
[–]Jiiwan
I'm working on two but not necesarily for that reason: I tend to swear like a trooper and my posture is far from optimal, especially when sitting down. If I get better on these I'll feel better about myself, and it happens to also feel more feminine to speak politely and having a straight back.
[–]VeronikaGriffin
For some ungodly reason I put the tought in my head that while drinking from a cup, it is feminine to extend your pinky out… And now I can’t stop myself. I just do it naturally…
I broke myself of the headnod habit. Instead I smile and wave in a feminine way.
I'm still working on that...
That's definitely a thing!
Took me a while to get out of that habit and it still creeps back occasionally.
The low elbow wave is very femme, and I really like it.
What are good ways to wave femininely (I just end up waving like weird Al in the white and nerdy video )
)
I like a dainty finger wave.
[–]2bEm9
Oooh, I like this question. Screw society and it's gaslighting.
So, at some point early on I saw a transphobic meme. It was a bunch of heads of state for something somewhere with a bunch of women politicians (one was trans). In the pic, every cis looking woman had her feet parallel, the trans woman did not, and the meme was like "spot the difference?"
It even seemed like bs at the time, but I still trained myself to always keep my feet parallel (and still to this day
). Here's the thing, I've fact checked this irl soooo many times, it's definitely complete and utter bs. Mayyybe it's more natural for peeps with a lower center of gravity, but there's definitely no consistency across or within gender for your average person or group.[–]Darkeldar1959
Reading romance novels. It started while I was recovering from my GRS in the hospital, I had run out of reading material, so I requested books from the volunteer desk. One was a special ops novel, the other was a trapped in cabin romance. I thought I'd give the romance a try.
Now, I'm reading constantly from books on my phone. And they are almost always a romance novel. I found a author that I really like.
Number1: congrats on your GRS, sis! Number2: you have to share your author with us♡
Amy Daws, I found her because I was looking for a pregnancy story, since, alas, I can't get pregnant myself. I started in the middle of the 'Wait With Me' series, and went back to read the first of five novels. And I just finished 'Honeymoon Phase' the recently released third novel of 'The Mountain Man Matchmaker' series.
They're funny, sexy and had me yelling at the main characters.
[–]translunainjection
I taught myself to speak the way that I think ALL WOMEN do, with complete sentences, being unsure of yourself, and deferential language. "I'd like to __" "Could you __?" Please and thank you! "___, right?" And the ultimate in femme girlboss authority: "I need you to ____".
Then... noticed how women actually speak. Back to "Gimme that!" now.
[–]eviekimmy
Growing up I internalized this idea that men had messy hand writing and women had neat handwriting so I literally spent years changing my handwriting until it looked more aesthetic and neat.
[–]CuteWillow13
Playing with my hair and curling them with my fingers
[–]Jiiwan
I'm working on two but not necesarily for that reason: I tend to swear like a trooper and my posture is far from optimal, especially when sitting down. If I get better on these I'll feel better about myself, and it happens to also feel more feminine to speak politely and having a straight back.
[–]VeronikaGriffin
For some ungodly reason I put the tought in my head that while drinking from a cup, it is feminine to extend your pinky out… And now I can’t stop myself. I just do it naturally…
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And finally: why do some of the pronoun persuasion prefer those outside of the club to those inside of it? Well, let's see what the truscum/transmedicalists have to say about the matter.
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[–]Diplopoda08
Being too relatable due to dysphoria and accidentally ending up with a tucute are reasons why I don’t date trans women. Most trans women i’ve met irl, even if they pass, have always been hypersexual PIV likers who want trans men to use what they’re born with and always break up when their boyfriends suggest otherwise. Not wanting to be too relatable comes from not wanting my transsexualism brought up a lot.
My cis girlfriend doesn’t talk about it unless i bring it up first and it feels respectful
[–]Possible-Worker-2819
I have dysphoria and I hate to be trans so I don’t have the energy to support another person dysphoria. Also it feels validating (idk how to say that) to succeed in seducing a cis woman
I'm a post-op lesbian and I banked before I started (it wasn't enjoyable, it was just business, and the whole process was very, very weird). I'd still like to be able to produce a genetic child.
I did date one other trans woman, and it was a terribly toxic relationship. I'm someone that is normally very stable and secure, but we have the exact same insecurities. She would spiral and when I'd try to support her, she would often spiral even harder, sometimes causing me to spiral too.
I also have an aversion to penises, so anyone that has one isn't my cup of tea, and it's not transphobic to say you're not attracted to someone's parts, no matter how much people on the main subs feel entitled to guilt, shame, and manipulate people.
Further, I'm not part of the socio-political movement. I have a medical condition. I want nothing to do with the people that have colonized, appropriated, diminished, and erased people with a medical condition to justify their funsies. If I was willing to date someone, it would be another medical minority, not anyone that was a gender performer out to exploit medical minorities.
[–]Downtown_Dare_4991
The main thing is that I’m a strictly gay guy. I like big dicks and masculinity. Another aspect is that I was in a T4T relationship when we’d both just come out and it became the dysphoria olympics. They were always trying to one up me on how bad we had it and made both of us feel even shittier. I worry another T4T relationship would be similar
[–]i-need-helppppp
I wouldn’t be able to have sex with a trans guy, it would make me too dysphoric. Maybe him having phallo would be good enough but idk much about that surgery
There’s also the factor that I don’t want to date someone shorter than me and at 5’8” I feel it would be low probability of finding a trans guy taller
[–]uuuuuggghhhhhhh
I’ve been fetishized more by other trans people than I have cis people and oftentimes trans people are not subtle about their fetishization. I’m only really attracted to cis men as a trans woman because I’m “phallosexual”. I love dicks, and trans men don’t have them/surgery isn’t there enough yet to pass. Also the trans guys I have met are too femme and or have more emotional hangups/are constantly seeking external validation
[–]InveterateShitposter
I'm not entirely opposed to the concept. But they'd have to pass, and be normal.
Which is a bar that seems almost impossible for the current trans community to meet so it seems unlikely I'd run into one of the rare ones out there, especially since I'm not looking.
[–]SadShoeBox
Personally I’m not necessarily opposed to other trans people, the only issue with them is that the majority of trans people are tucutes. Them not being a transmed would be a solid dealbreaker for me. I’m also stealth and wouldn’t be interested in anyone who also isn’t stealth. Blending in and assimilating is important to me and I would need someone who felt the same. I also would need someone who I don’t amplify nor they amplify my dysphoria.
[–]M5F2
I have a genital preference so most likely cis men would have the parts I want. If someone had phallo and was a trans man I wouldn’t be against dating them but I do not find vaginas attractive at all so they’d have to be post-op. I am a trans man who is also medically transitioned fully
[–]KeyNo7990
TBH I don't really have a strong preference. I would say my concerns with dating trans women are first and foremost the dating pool size. There's not a ton of trans people around me, and when you filter out the tucute/otherwise annoying trans people, I'd be hunting around for a needle in a haystack. But assuming I could find a trans woman to date (a good transsexual woman, you know, someone I could take home to meet my mom) then my only beef would be just how queer our relationship would look if people knew we were T4T. I think as a trans man with a cis woman, I could pull off a *just a normal guy* vibe. But if I'm a trans man dating a trans woman then it starts to feel more like a sitcom gag. Which I realize is shitty and entirely just me worrying about society judging us. But you know, society does do that. All that said I think I'd still rather a trans woman over a cis woman because of shared experiences, with all the caveats of *not as cis women are like that* and *not all trans women either*.
[–]TransparentDelight
Honestly as a trans lesbian, Id be open to dating another trans woman if I found the right one. But therein lies my personal problem. I want a pretty lipstick lesbian girl. As bad as it sounds… and even as hypocritical, because I am unattractive… that’s what turns me on. So, someone just starting a transition, is masculine, or a tucute who doesn’t actually know who they are is a turn off. And as someone else mentioned above, I have zero interest in being someone’s fetish… which it seems is common even amongst other trans people. So I tend to naturally, meaning just without thought, be attracted to cis women.
lol, but that’s also a big portion of why I’ll probably be single for the rest of my life.
[–]queerluminati
I have enough baggage and trauma from my own dysphoria. I don’t want to have to deal with another person’s. Also the likelihood of them being a tucute (esp coming from a socially liberal city) is just higher when dating other trans people.
[–]Williamishere69
I just hate female genitalia, and I like masculine people.
Trans women arent masculine even though I know some have penises. Trans men can be masculine, but most wont have penises.
Ive dated both a trans man and a non-trans man before and I was fine with the trans man in everything except sex, and I was fine with the sex with the non-trans man but I didnt like his femininity.
In my case, its not a preference. It might be some aspect of me being self conscious (in terms of not wanting to see or touch a vagina, or be around someone with a 'gay voice') or it might be some form of protection to not be bullied/assaulted/harrassed, idk. But I genuinely cannot stand dating or being hit on by any of those groups of people except non-trans men.
I dont know how I'd feel about a man who has had a phalloplasty, I feel like I'd be perfectly fine with it. But its not at all easy to distinguish between trans men who have had or, or trans men who haven't had it - and I dont particularly care to upset someone by making them dysphoric or uncomfortable by that question so I avoid it altogether.
[–]laura_lumi
Well, I'm gonna get downvoted to oblivion here, but most trans folks just don't seem to act like adults... most are chronically online, don't have a job, don't have a degree, don't have a life beyond being trans, and have no responsibility. Of course, i'm generalizing, but we're already rare, most trans folks act like that, the ones who don't are even rarer, and I have never personally met one.
I was open to it at the start, it was easier for me because i'm bi, my libido was always low, so although I had a preference for the male genitalia, the female one didn't bothered me that much, so I dated a few trans people at the start, both men and women acted like children, couldn't hold a job, didn't even study consistently, they had to tell everyone they were trans, and make issue with everyone who didn't make a big deal about them being trans.
Then the straw who broke the camel's back... started dating a trans woman, no job, made fun of me for going to college because "it was stupid, and you can become rich without it", sat on her fancy pc all day until 3 a:m while making noise while I exhausted myself in classes and making deliveries in my bike to pay for bills.
Her family was rich rich, and her aunt offered her a 40k a year work taking pictures of cars "My aunt is such a b... offering me a job at a car company instead of a tech one, I wanna work with graphic design, but I don't have support from my family". Ok, here's 400 bucks every month to pay for art school even though I can't afford it. Skipped most classes, ended up completely giving up on it.
"Oh, I want to make deliveries like you" Not sure why you would want that, but sure, I'll stretch and get you 2 thousand bucks so you can get your driver's license for cars and bikes(yeah, that expensive in my country). Skipped classes, time limit went up, lost my money.
Couldn't go anywhere or solve anything alone, I had to stop working and go with her anywhere she had to go, got her documents changed, her health insurance, literally everything had to be me.
After 2 years bleeding me of my money, i got fed up with it, gave her 3 months to get a job and move out, helped her make amends with her family, she actually got a job, only to quit 2 months in to "work with cosplaying", not my problem anymore.
Being spoiled wasn't the problem, I have met struggling trans folks who were exactly the same, one was 10 years into her transition, had no job, and didn't even changed her name despite passing perfectly because "going out is scary". Yeah it's scary, I hate leaving my house too, but I do it because I have to...
"How is it compared to dating a cis person?" My Boyfriend is Independent, graduated, got a job, bought his own place at 30 years old, is actually a partner rather than a parasite, yeah, he's a nerd and hates leaving his place, too(I have a type lol), solves his own problems, only needing help occasionally, and helps me too when I need it, helps me cooking, helps me cleaning, has a life. Other than all the qualities that made me fall in love with him like actually listening to me, hearing me talk about cars for hours even though he has no interest in cars, going out with me in my 1995 daihatsu mira shitbox on our first date, doing everything for me, and I do my best to reciprocate.
And yeah, most cis people my age and even millennials are somewhat similar to my ex, but as I said, cis people are 99% of the population, so it's much easier to find decent ones.
"Oh, and how about that "college is for idiots" thing?" Idk, maybe making 70k a year at 24 while everyone who said that that college isn't worth it is unemployed or making minimum wage, job hopping because they can't hold a job right now?
So yeah, 90% of trans folks live in lalaland and refuse to grow up, and I mostly don't even interact with them due to that...
[–]Creepy_Dimension638
[–]Visual-Marketing-849
I only date cis and straight women ngl.
Straight was always a requirement but regarding cis, I’ve dated a TS woman before and while she fit all my criteria, double dysphoria doomed that relationship.
It’s horrible stuff that you can never tell your partner and just have to bury, feeling jealous about traits your GF cries about everyday for example. We were both passing and late in transition so I cannot even imagine how bad it is “early on”.
The unsaid “envy” started to put arguments everywhere, everyday things became grating, each other’s dysphoria we could (in theory) but couldn’t understand (in practice) because it’s opposite.
Also she saw every cis girl as a threat due to her dysphoria. Because of my job I’m around attractive women all day and I get a lot of attention. I didn’t want any of them nor even reply to any DM yet I got my phone searched weekly…and I can understand. But it was not healthy.
We’d probably be married today if we were both cis, and we still loved each other when we broke up but this was unfixable. We both have cis gf/bf now and the glow up is real on both ends.
“Straight T4T” does NOT work imo
So since this was a best case scenario and still failed I just date cis women now.
[–]Illustrious-Love-897
I've been fetishised, but only by trans people. I'm gay, so I don't like men. And I don't like dicks, so I'm not attracted to most trans women. Most trans people you meet are also way into trans culture and all that entails, which I'm actively turned off by. I'm also not into what testosterone does to a person, which also rules out most trans women.
I also value maturity in a partner, and I've met way more immature trans women than I have cis women.
[–]Medicalhuman
Semen.
Being too relatable due to dysphoria and accidentally ending up with a tucute are reasons why I don’t date trans women. Most trans women i’ve met irl, even if they pass, have always been hypersexual PIV likers who want trans men to use what they’re born with and always break up when their boyfriends suggest otherwise. Not wanting to be too relatable comes from not wanting my transsexualism brought up a lot.
My cis girlfriend doesn’t talk about it unless i bring it up first and it feels respectful
[–]Possible-Worker-2819
I have dysphoria and I hate to be trans so I don’t have the energy to support another person dysphoria. Also it feels validating (idk how to say that) to succeed in seducing a cis woman
I agree. On one side, I guess it would be nice if your partner understood your struggles, but it would also cause more stress for the both of us rather if one person was cis. It really depends on the person too, maybe you really like a partner who’s going through it like you, idk
[–]Sad-Glass8053I'm a post-op lesbian and I banked before I started (it wasn't enjoyable, it was just business, and the whole process was very, very weird). I'd still like to be able to produce a genetic child.
I did date one other trans woman, and it was a terribly toxic relationship. I'm someone that is normally very stable and secure, but we have the exact same insecurities. She would spiral and when I'd try to support her, she would often spiral even harder, sometimes causing me to spiral too.
I also have an aversion to penises, so anyone that has one isn't my cup of tea, and it's not transphobic to say you're not attracted to someone's parts, no matter how much people on the main subs feel entitled to guilt, shame, and manipulate people.
Further, I'm not part of the socio-political movement. I have a medical condition. I want nothing to do with the people that have colonized, appropriated, diminished, and erased people with a medical condition to justify their funsies. If I was willing to date someone, it would be another medical minority, not anyone that was a gender performer out to exploit medical minorities.
yep i absolutely get you. i dont believe it’s transphobic to have a genital preference/requirement, but it’s probably iffier when people have an aversion to dating trans people because theyre trans. i think a lot of times those people have warped views of us, especially because of tucutes.
however, im also not going to tell anyone they have to feel any certain way about me or anyone else, because that’s weird and rapey lol. i also get the shit about dysphoria olympics some trans people do with their partner etc
[–]Downtown_Dare_4991
The main thing is that I’m a strictly gay guy. I like big dicks and masculinity. Another aspect is that I was in a T4T relationship when we’d both just come out and it became the dysphoria olympics. They were always trying to one up me on how bad we had it and made both of us feel even shittier. I worry another T4T relationship would be similar
[–]i-need-helppppp
I wouldn’t be able to have sex with a trans guy, it would make me too dysphoric. Maybe him having phallo would be good enough but idk much about that surgery
There’s also the factor that I don’t want to date someone shorter than me and at 5’8” I feel it would be low probability of finding a trans guy taller
[–]uuuuuggghhhhhhh
I’ve been fetishized more by other trans people than I have cis people and oftentimes trans people are not subtle about their fetishization. I’m only really attracted to cis men as a trans woman because I’m “phallosexual”. I love dicks, and trans men don’t have them/surgery isn’t there enough yet to pass. Also the trans guys I have met are too femme and or have more emotional hangups/are constantly seeking external validation
this is understandable. ive seen some realistic phallo/meta dicks, but ill agree that those ones are sadly few and far between
I’m sure there are some out there but yeah they’re just not as common. Having to inflate a penis or kick stand it would just take me out of the moment.
Sometimes a trans person will fetishize me and it makes me wonder if they merely transitioned to get closer to other trans people. So I just keep all those interactions strictly platonic.
oh yea the whole reason im going for meta (metoidioplasty) is because it uses the existing phallic anatomy and enhances it. (preserving natural erectile function) unfortunately, 95% of metas are comparable to micropenises, so if that’s not something you’re into, it probably wont be your thing. i know of one guy who was 4-5 inches hard, but that is an exceptional outlier lol
but yea idk why so many trans people are very fetishistic of other trans people. dont get me started on 4chan fetishization of transsexual women :/
It’s not necessarily the size for me. My cis husband is very average in size so it’s more of the penis itself.
I started transitioning in 2014 and can remember a distinct shift from being fetishized by cis men to being fetishized by trans people in 2019
[–]InveterateShitposter
I'm not entirely opposed to the concept. But they'd have to pass, and be normal.
Which is a bar that seems almost impossible for the current trans community to meet so it seems unlikely I'd run into one of the rare ones out there, especially since I'm not looking.
[–]SadShoeBox
Personally I’m not necessarily opposed to other trans people, the only issue with them is that the majority of trans people are tucutes. Them not being a transmed would be a solid dealbreaker for me. I’m also stealth and wouldn’t be interested in anyone who also isn’t stealth. Blending in and assimilating is important to me and I would need someone who felt the same. I also would need someone who I don’t amplify nor they amplify my dysphoria.
[–]M5F2
I have a genital preference so most likely cis men would have the parts I want. If someone had phallo and was a trans man I wouldn’t be against dating them but I do not find vaginas attractive at all so they’d have to be post-op. I am a trans man who is also medically transitioned fully
[–]KeyNo7990
TBH I don't really have a strong preference. I would say my concerns with dating trans women are first and foremost the dating pool size. There's not a ton of trans people around me, and when you filter out the tucute/otherwise annoying trans people, I'd be hunting around for a needle in a haystack. But assuming I could find a trans woman to date (a good transsexual woman, you know, someone I could take home to meet my mom) then my only beef would be just how queer our relationship would look if people knew we were T4T. I think as a trans man with a cis woman, I could pull off a *just a normal guy* vibe. But if I'm a trans man dating a trans woman then it starts to feel more like a sitcom gag. Which I realize is shitty and entirely just me worrying about society judging us. But you know, society does do that. All that said I think I'd still rather a trans woman over a cis woman because of shared experiences, with all the caveats of *not as cis women are like that* and *not all trans women either*.
[–]TransparentDelight
Honestly as a trans lesbian, Id be open to dating another trans woman if I found the right one. But therein lies my personal problem. I want a pretty lipstick lesbian girl. As bad as it sounds… and even as hypocritical, because I am unattractive… that’s what turns me on. So, someone just starting a transition, is masculine, or a tucute who doesn’t actually know who they are is a turn off. And as someone else mentioned above, I have zero interest in being someone’s fetish… which it seems is common even amongst other trans people. So I tend to naturally, meaning just without thought, be attracted to cis women.
lol, but that’s also a big portion of why I’ll probably be single for the rest of my life.
[–]queerluminati
I have enough baggage and trauma from my own dysphoria. I don’t want to have to deal with another person’s. Also the likelihood of them being a tucute (esp coming from a socially liberal city) is just higher when dating other trans people.
[–]Williamishere69
I just hate female genitalia, and I like masculine people.
Trans women arent masculine even though I know some have penises. Trans men can be masculine, but most wont have penises.
Ive dated both a trans man and a non-trans man before and I was fine with the trans man in everything except sex, and I was fine with the sex with the non-trans man but I didnt like his femininity.
In my case, its not a preference. It might be some aspect of me being self conscious (in terms of not wanting to see or touch a vagina, or be around someone with a 'gay voice') or it might be some form of protection to not be bullied/assaulted/harrassed, idk. But I genuinely cannot stand dating or being hit on by any of those groups of people except non-trans men.
I dont know how I'd feel about a man who has had a phalloplasty, I feel like I'd be perfectly fine with it. But its not at all easy to distinguish between trans men who have had or, or trans men who haven't had it - and I dont particularly care to upset someone by making them dysphoric or uncomfortable by that question so I avoid it altogether.
[–]laura_lumi
Well, I'm gonna get downvoted to oblivion here, but most trans folks just don't seem to act like adults... most are chronically online, don't have a job, don't have a degree, don't have a life beyond being trans, and have no responsibility. Of course, i'm generalizing, but we're already rare, most trans folks act like that, the ones who don't are even rarer, and I have never personally met one.
I was open to it at the start, it was easier for me because i'm bi, my libido was always low, so although I had a preference for the male genitalia, the female one didn't bothered me that much, so I dated a few trans people at the start, both men and women acted like children, couldn't hold a job, didn't even study consistently, they had to tell everyone they were trans, and make issue with everyone who didn't make a big deal about them being trans.
Then the straw who broke the camel's back... started dating a trans woman, no job, made fun of me for going to college because "it was stupid, and you can become rich without it", sat on her fancy pc all day until 3 a:m while making noise while I exhausted myself in classes and making deliveries in my bike to pay for bills.
Her family was rich rich, and her aunt offered her a 40k a year work taking pictures of cars "My aunt is such a b... offering me a job at a car company instead of a tech one, I wanna work with graphic design, but I don't have support from my family". Ok, here's 400 bucks every month to pay for art school even though I can't afford it. Skipped most classes, ended up completely giving up on it.
"Oh, I want to make deliveries like you" Not sure why you would want that, but sure, I'll stretch and get you 2 thousand bucks so you can get your driver's license for cars and bikes(yeah, that expensive in my country). Skipped classes, time limit went up, lost my money.
Couldn't go anywhere or solve anything alone, I had to stop working and go with her anywhere she had to go, got her documents changed, her health insurance, literally everything had to be me.
After 2 years bleeding me of my money, i got fed up with it, gave her 3 months to get a job and move out, helped her make amends with her family, she actually got a job, only to quit 2 months in to "work with cosplaying", not my problem anymore.
Being spoiled wasn't the problem, I have met struggling trans folks who were exactly the same, one was 10 years into her transition, had no job, and didn't even changed her name despite passing perfectly because "going out is scary". Yeah it's scary, I hate leaving my house too, but I do it because I have to...
"How is it compared to dating a cis person?" My Boyfriend is Independent, graduated, got a job, bought his own place at 30 years old, is actually a partner rather than a parasite, yeah, he's a nerd and hates leaving his place, too(I have a type lol), solves his own problems, only needing help occasionally, and helps me too when I need it, helps me cooking, helps me cleaning, has a life. Other than all the qualities that made me fall in love with him like actually listening to me, hearing me talk about cars for hours even though he has no interest in cars, going out with me in my 1995 daihatsu mira shitbox on our first date, doing everything for me, and I do my best to reciprocate.
And yeah, most cis people my age and even millennials are somewhat similar to my ex, but as I said, cis people are 99% of the population, so it's much easier to find decent ones.
"Oh, and how about that "college is for idiots" thing?" Idk, maybe making 70k a year at 24 while everyone who said that that college isn't worth it is unemployed or making minimum wage, job hopping because they can't hold a job right now?
So yeah, 90% of trans folks live in lalaland and refuse to grow up, and I mostly don't even interact with them due to that...
[–]Creepy_Dimension638
- I'm not into micropenises or erectile dysfunction. And I'm REALLY not into vag or a plastic penis.
- Talking about trans shit is a turn-off.
- It's like uncanny valley or whatever it's called. I can see female features because I'm used to looking for them and it's off-putting.
- Too many trans people want to be open or be a part of the community or wear pride flags. I'm not into that.
- I don't want to date someone who might end up supporting sandgender and drumstick pronouns or some shit.
- There are so few trans men. I don't like having to add "binary" to what should just be "trans men" but so many trans men are identifying as transmasc nonbinary trans men and I am not interested in nonbinary people. I think nonbinary is a real gender, but I also think woman is a real gender. I don't have to be attracted to them to think they are real.
[–]Visual-Marketing-849
I only date cis and straight women ngl.
Straight was always a requirement but regarding cis, I’ve dated a TS woman before and while she fit all my criteria, double dysphoria doomed that relationship.
It’s horrible stuff that you can never tell your partner and just have to bury, feeling jealous about traits your GF cries about everyday for example. We were both passing and late in transition so I cannot even imagine how bad it is “early on”.
The unsaid “envy” started to put arguments everywhere, everyday things became grating, each other’s dysphoria we could (in theory) but couldn’t understand (in practice) because it’s opposite.
Also she saw every cis girl as a threat due to her dysphoria. Because of my job I’m around attractive women all day and I get a lot of attention. I didn’t want any of them nor even reply to any DM yet I got my phone searched weekly…and I can understand. But it was not healthy.
We’d probably be married today if we were both cis, and we still loved each other when we broke up but this was unfixable. We both have cis gf/bf now and the glow up is real on both ends.
“Straight T4T” does NOT work imo
So since this was a best case scenario and still failed I just date cis women now.
[–]Illustrious-Love-897
I've been fetishised, but only by trans people. I'm gay, so I don't like men. And I don't like dicks, so I'm not attracted to most trans women. Most trans people you meet are also way into trans culture and all that entails, which I'm actively turned off by. I'm also not into what testosterone does to a person, which also rules out most trans women.
I also value maturity in a partner, and I've met way more immature trans women than I have cis women.
[–]Medicalhuman
Semen.
- Dołączono
- 15 Sty 2014
This troon gives the most bizarre rant. Firstly, I thought “it” didn’t refer to transgender people, but all the trans bullshit. Fetish stuff, euphoria boners, grooming, all the stuff that no one wants around their kids. Admittedly, troons get really upset when you ask them to behave like normal human beings, so maybe the two are synonymous.
Secondly, what does he mean by refusing to submit? “You WILL let me be around your child!” Like, how’s that going to work? He’s going to yell at parents in front of their kids? He’s going to demand that parents go home and fetch their kids?
The whole thing feels totally off, like he has no kids in his life but really wants to be around them. Which is the total opposite of most adults. I don’t believe that all trannies are child molesters, but this tranny is definitely a child molester.
I really want to go undercover among pooners and just give them terrible advice. “Well, what you have to do is roll around on the floor, clutching your balls, vomiting in pain. Next day, the other guys will want to see the bruising - you don’t have to volunteer to show them, but if you don’t, you’ll look like a pussy.“
- Dołączono
- 24 Sie 2014
Yes it is. Stick by the rules your side imposed on the world.
Rapist.
But why? Animals will misgender them to no end. Do they have crying rooms in vet clinics?
- Dołączono
- 4 Kwi 2021
Yeah, you won't need to fake it because it really hurts for women too. It just doesn't happen as much to us for multiple reasons.
What a retarded thing to worry about.
- Dołączono
- 20 Kwi 2024
- Dołączono
- 23 Wrz 2024
I'm late as all hell but jeez, being an older Gen Z you really hit the nail on the head.
When I look at my mom's old photos of what she wore in the 80s/90s it was either classy (jewelry, minimal makeup, modest dresses or business casual) or relaxed (very poofy jackets, baggy jeans and hoodies and no makeup), meanwhile in my youth by the time I got to preschool all the girls were wearing skirts and tight shirts that revealed their shoulders and all the boys were wearing grungy ripped jeans and graphic tees with cars.
At junior prom, girls were already wearing heavy makeup, high heels they weren't prepared for and dresses that emphasized their cleavage. I also wore those god awful kid bikinis at 7 years old and was so ashamed and distressed when I had to walk back home topless once that I tearfully begged my mother to give me a towel to cover me up. In hindsight, I don't think it's normal for a child that young to be conditioned to be ashamed of body parts they don't even have yet.
Growing up was even worse because all my shirts when I was going through puberty were incredibly tight fitting and the selection of boys clothes sucked if you were a tomboy (my mom worked at a kids boutique at one point and I saw the selection for both sexes and wanted to kill myself, it's basically this meme).
They were made of that annoying stretchy material that felt uncomfortable and always ripped at the elbows because of how tight they were and I had no choice but to wear them before I could even get a proper bra with how sudden the changes were. As expected, I got a lot of unwanted negative attention from boys and had to constantly cross my arms over my chest until I could find a jacket or tracksuit to cover up...THAT'S how bad they were, and these were clothes designed for girls ages 10-14, the tag even says so. How most adults saw no issue with it boggles my mind. I wouldn't wear that garbage as an ADULT let alone a child.
It doesn't help boys were introduced to porn as early as 4th grade elementary so they would harass girls around them at a time they're most vulnerable.
Combine the two and you get a situation like my sister's where she was violently sexually assaulted at school by her group of male friends because the shirt she wore was made of a shitty transparent material during summer. Prior to this she had voiced to our parents how uncomfortable she was wearing it. This was a Disney shirt btw, she was 12.
Now that we're both adults; the moment I got a job I immediately went to buy myself clothes I felt comfortable wearing as I lived my teenhood terribly depressed and insecure from the treatment I got to the point I became a selective mute and avoided boys like the plague. Have never been more comfortable and a lot of the stuff I got was gender neutral or baggy. Apart from a couple of oversized metal shirts I got for the cool dark fantasy art (and the introduction to some pretty good music) — I still mostly dress femininely and do my makeup, only now I don't have to feel like a fucking exhibitionist ashamed of living in my own skin.
My sister however hadn't been able to get over her trauma of the way she was treated. It had left her feeling as though she's less of a woman because she doesn't like makeup and dressing femininely (which is sad because she thinks dressing femininely = dressing like a prostitute). She's convinced she's non-binary because of the discomfort and abuse she experienced growing up and it breaks my heart as her sister who went through the same shit but grew past it. I try to support her and tell things to her straight but this horrid belief is implanted way too deep for her to listen, and I'm entirely convinced some dipshit on the internet groomed her into thinking that way as most of her friends were online ones in her teens.
At junior prom, girls were already wearing heavy makeup, high heels they weren't prepared for and dresses that emphasized their cleavage. I also wore those god awful kid bikinis at 7 years old and was so ashamed and distressed when I had to walk back home topless once that I tearfully begged my mother to give me a towel to cover me up. In hindsight, I don't think it's normal for a child that young to be conditioned to be ashamed of body parts they don't even have yet.
Growing up was even worse because all my shirts when I was going through puberty were incredibly tight fitting and the selection of boys clothes sucked if you were a tomboy (my mom worked at a kids boutique at one point and I saw the selection for both sexes and wanted to kill myself, it's basically this meme).
They were made of that annoying stretchy material that felt uncomfortable and always ripped at the elbows because of how tight they were and I had no choice but to wear them before I could even get a proper bra with how sudden the changes were. As expected, I got a lot of unwanted negative attention from boys and had to constantly cross my arms over my chest until I could find a jacket or tracksuit to cover up...THAT'S how bad they were, and these were clothes designed for girls ages 10-14, the tag even says so. How most adults saw no issue with it boggles my mind. I wouldn't wear that garbage as an ADULT let alone a child.
It doesn't help boys were introduced to porn as early as 4th grade elementary so they would harass girls around them at a time they're most vulnerable.
Combine the two and you get a situation like my sister's where she was violently sexually assaulted at school by her group of male friends because the shirt she wore was made of a shitty transparent material during summer. Prior to this she had voiced to our parents how uncomfortable she was wearing it. This was a Disney shirt btw, she was 12.
Now that we're both adults; the moment I got a job I immediately went to buy myself clothes I felt comfortable wearing as I lived my teenhood terribly depressed and insecure from the treatment I got to the point I became a selective mute and avoided boys like the plague. Have never been more comfortable and a lot of the stuff I got was gender neutral or baggy. Apart from a couple of oversized metal shirts I got for the cool dark fantasy art (and the introduction to some pretty good music) — I still mostly dress femininely and do my makeup, only now I don't have to feel like a fucking exhibitionist ashamed of living in my own skin.
My sister however hadn't been able to get over her trauma of the way she was treated. It had left her feeling as though she's less of a woman because she doesn't like makeup and dressing femininely (which is sad because she thinks dressing femininely = dressing like a prostitute). She's convinced she's non-binary because of the discomfort and abuse she experienced growing up and it breaks my heart as her sister who went through the same shit but grew past it. I try to support her and tell things to her straight but this horrid belief is implanted way too deep for her to listen, and I'm entirely convinced some dipshit on the internet groomed her into thinking that way as most of her friends were online ones in her teens.
This generation is really fucked man, it's depressing to think about. I can only hope for a cultural reset of some kind at this point because the thought of how sexualized everything had become when I was a child disgusts me immensely...and it's only getting worse.
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- Dołączono
- 22 Sie 2024
I'm also older Gen Z and female and can attest.
Though I do consider myself somewhat lucky in that most of my clothing were hand-me-downs from my two older sisters who were 6-9 years older than me, so even the more "fitting" stuff hung pretty loose on me most of the time.
But seeing how other girls my age dressed as early as 4th grade was jarring. Lot of 'em were dressing and doing their makeup like adult women typically would.
I always felt othered because I wasn't really into that kind of style at the time.
And yeah the boys were weirdly porn brained at such a young age too and I found it concerning even back then. While I was constantly harassed, it was less sexual and more because I was the weird kid.
I got so fed up with my mom constantly wanting me to look super feminine (and for other boundary violations that were a bit more extreme) for the longest time that I went full butch during high school.
Now it's more of a variety for me and I dress depending on mood. I buy most of my shit from Hot Topic (unisex galore!) but I will hit up Ross to get Juicy Couture, Roxy, etc. at a low price. xD
Unfortunately did fall into the non-binary shit in early adulthood as a result of several factors but once I got a handle on my mental health, I've fully left that shit behind.
I do hope your sister is able to break through her trauma before it leads her into doing more damage to herself.
But seeing how other girls my age dressed as early as 4th grade was jarring. Lot of 'em were dressing and doing their makeup like adult women typically would.
I always felt othered because I wasn't really into that kind of style at the time.
And yeah the boys were weirdly porn brained at such a young age too and I found it concerning even back then. While I was constantly harassed, it was less sexual and more because I was the weird kid.
I got so fed up with my mom constantly wanting me to look super feminine (and for other boundary violations that were a bit more extreme) for the longest time that I went full butch during high school.
Now it's more of a variety for me and I dress depending on mood. I buy most of my shit from Hot Topic (unisex galore!) but I will hit up Ross to get Juicy Couture, Roxy, etc. at a low price. xD
Unfortunately did fall into the non-binary shit in early adulthood as a result of several factors but once I got a handle on my mental health, I've fully left that shit behind.
I do hope your sister is able to break through her trauma before it leads her into doing more damage to herself.
I feel bad for fellow members of my generation and even more so for the younger ones, cuz it's just been getting fucking worse in every aspect.
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This is a really autistic question, but do you also go to thrift stores or anything similar?
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- 22 Sie 2024
Yeah, I hit up secondhand stores sometimes too. LOL
I've found some good shit at some of those places.
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- 22 Sie 2024
Apologies for the double reply and double post but I feel it's necessary to address this from the point of view of someone who actually did experience this.
In Highschool, I joined an app called Amino--this was back when it was halfway decent and actually functional.
Mostly kept to myself as I usually do with social media.
However a year or two after being on, I ended up in a friend group from a music community.
Started with a group chat on Amino and then moved to Discord (which was relatively new at the time), at first to easily host little community events, though later became a group chat for friends.
Ages in this chat ranged from 26 to 13.
Now the oldest member of the group identified as non-binary, a concept I found laughably retarded at the time.
However when I stated my opinions on it, I would get browbeat by her and the other adults in the group for being 'bigoted'.
Lots of emotional manipulation used there.
The group later merged with another that the oldest member found and these people were leagues fucking worse LMFAO
Me stating that rapists deserve to be raped in prison and making big bubba jokes at the expense of rapists was what got me kicked out of the entire group; because a woman there that was a victim of said crime got offended and took the side of the rapists in that one, which still perplexes me to this day.
Long sperg to say that due to the browbeating and emotional manipulation from these people that went on for about 3-4 years (they would literally gang up on me in front of everyone else), I caved and started believing that shit and even identified with it myself for a while.
Lot of details are fuzzy or completely missing since this was about a decade ago but man do I regret getting entangled with that group.
Mostly kept to myself as I usually do with social media.
However a year or two after being on, I ended up in a friend group from a music community.
Started with a group chat on Amino and then moved to Discord (which was relatively new at the time), at first to easily host little community events, though later became a group chat for friends.
Ages in this chat ranged from 26 to 13.
Now the oldest member of the group identified as non-binary, a concept I found laughably retarded at the time.
However when I stated my opinions on it, I would get browbeat by her and the other adults in the group for being 'bigoted'.
Lots of emotional manipulation used there.
The group later merged with another that the oldest member found and these people were leagues fucking worse LMFAO
Me stating that rapists deserve to be raped in prison and making big bubba jokes at the expense of rapists was what got me kicked out of the entire group; because a woman there that was a victim of said crime got offended and took the side of the rapists in that one, which still perplexes me to this day.
Long sperg to say that due to the browbeating and emotional manipulation from these people that went on for about 3-4 years (they would literally gang up on me in front of everyone else), I caved and started believing that shit and even identified with it myself for a while.
Lot of details are fuzzy or completely missing since this was about a decade ago but man do I regret getting entangled with that group.
I can only imagine how much worse this shit has gotten as time has gone on and I yearn for the death of all of it.
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- 11 Lut 2021
I love it when trannies talk Science. Or should I say deny science? What even is science, but a nebulous, ever changing concept invented by some mere mortal, temporarily sentient, bunch of cells, floating through infinity? Anyways, to quote Jesse Pinkman: "Yeah, Science!"
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- 2 Lut 2021
You make a good point about the shit quality of the material too. Everything is gonna be thinner just because of the trash quality fabric, using less of it to make it even cheaper, and then if you found something you liked, no way is it gonna last long enough to be hand me downs because it's junk and then you've got to replace it with more shit in the shops. Adults aren't going to want to spend loads on growing kids and the base quality for clothes plummeted.
The bikinis always horrified me. As kids we were just naked at the beach until a certain point. You never see that now, it kinda died out with a few high profile child abductions and the fact that everyone has phones now means noone is gonna allow it.
The bikinis feel way more indecent than naked kids ever did. It feels so gross and unfair to see a boy and a girl who look the same bar for one has to wear an unnessecary tight bit of frilly shit tied round their non existent chest.
It signals something very clearly.
I'm totally unsuprised it bugged people who grew up during it. Way I see it is you were most unlucky if your mother happened to be one of the girls who got really into the playboy aesthetic and enforced it.
You see pooners childhood bedrooms sometimes on here and it's always way, way more pink shit then I or any girls I knew would have entertained. In part that's because there simply wasn't so much spending on ~expressing yourself(the appropriate mass market gender signal assigned to you) ~
You would have whatever 80s wall paper was up already.
When everything got cheap people just started buying shit like, decor of the same class as on the girl teeshirts. Bleak live laugh love esque stuff.
It's hard to overstate the level of overcomsumption that is just normal now, and the amount of shit that flows through even poor households, compared to much richer people in generations past.
And its all JUNK.
Everyone lower class in the English speaking world seems to live in this same shitty aesthetic.
They all wear the same gross crap mismatched mass produced fabric, cookie monster sweatpants type shit over their fat pasty bodies. They've got all these labour saving devices and spend no time doing other than buying as much cheap shit as possible.
I am in genuine terror of how the planet is going to deal with the plastic age, and the constant ramping up of it.
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- 2 Lip 2025
God, I remember that dogshit app. It’s basically the online dating platform for minors, where you e-date someone on it and then you’re boyfriend and girlfriend, for real, 100%. I was in a few because young, idiot, hormonal. I, of course, joined for the community aspect, but every single one had some form of e-dating in it, very fucking bizarre, because this was still before the Discord ages. This would actually be my revelation that “no, people are not their profile picture and that’s not Jennette McCurdy”, very revealing for someone at my age.
Everyone was, of course, some retarded form of transgender, non-binary, lesbian, gay, whatever the fuck, for anonymous, online teens. Barely any of the discussions were about the groups’ topics, by the by, mostly just e-dating.
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- 9 Wrz 2021
Down low nigger wishes for anti trans gays to burn in hell.
"Like why are we enemies a drag queen gave us our rights
SLAAAAY"
Same guy:
The same nigger OP doesn't get why the homies are against the DL queer homies.
You think he sucks troon dick, or fucks pooner pussy?
"Like why are we enemies a drag queen gave us our rights
SLAAAAY"Same guy:
The same nigger OP doesn't get why the homies are against the DL queer homies.
You think he sucks troon dick, or fucks pooner pussy?
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- 8 Sie 2019
As a bi-fag, I would like to say I like when my men are men and my women are women. Seeing massive scars on obviously female bodies and giant bolt on titties on male bodies is incredibly offputting.Down low nigger wishes for anti trans gays to burn in hell.
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"Like why are we enemies a drag queen gave us our rights
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Same guy:
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The same nigger OP doesn't get why the homies are against the DL queer homies.
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You think he sucks troon dick, or fucks pooner pussy?
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- 17 Kwi 2025
On the topic of being a female Zillennial and how overly sexualized being a little girl in that era was:
I stopped dressing up for Halloween very early as a child because my mother never let me wear "boy's costumes" that I wanted, and all the girl's Halloween costumes were short dresses/skirts. Like every single girl's Halloween costume was just essentially themed dresses. And I wanted a normal costume like boys got to wear.
I also relate to the person who said they hated how tight-fitting girl's shirts were. I always hated that and preferred unisex-styled shirts. I genuinely thought I hated fashion and clothes shopping until early-adulthood (turns out I do actually like it now), because my mom never allowed me to wear anything "too masculine" and I hated how sexualized women's clothing sections were. As long as my mom didn't know something came from a men's section or if something was got second-hand, she was fine with me wearing it. But she freaked the fuck out over me wanting to wear anything technically branded as men's clothing, even if it were very unisex otherwise. I exclusively wore jeans a lot of the time in my childhood because I hated that women's shorts in stores were almost always tight-fitting short booty shorts.
Unsurprisingly, I also had a brief FTM phase in my teen years (but thankfully did nothing to my body, so it was purely ideological). For a movement claiming to be all about "free expression", the trans movement seems to be accomplishing the exact opposite by enforcing strict gender roles. You're a woman who wants to wear pants? Well, you must actually be a man in a woman's body.
I also relate to the person who said they hated how tight-fitting girl's shirts were. I always hated that and preferred unisex-styled shirts. I genuinely thought I hated fashion and clothes shopping until early-adulthood (turns out I do actually like it now), because my mom never allowed me to wear anything "too masculine" and I hated how sexualized women's clothing sections were. As long as my mom didn't know something came from a men's section or if something was got second-hand, she was fine with me wearing it. But she freaked the fuck out over me wanting to wear anything technically branded as men's clothing, even if it were very unisex otherwise. I exclusively wore jeans a lot of the time in my childhood because I hated that women's shorts in stores were almost always tight-fitting short booty shorts.
Unsurprisingly, I also had a brief FTM phase in my teen years (but thankfully did nothing to my body, so it was purely ideological). For a movement claiming to be all about "free expression", the trans movement seems to be accomplishing the exact opposite by enforcing strict gender roles. You're a woman who wants to wear pants? Well, you must actually be a man in a woman's body.
This is one of the many reasons I'm anti-porn. I always had tomboyish interests and in my earliest years, I was only friends with boys. But around like 5th grade or so is when I started to exclusively befriend girls (despite staying a tomboy), because all of a sudden, my former male best friend started being really sexual and creepy toward me.
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- 12 Lis 2022
I would like to introduce you to mr Chaos. Chaos is a plural system from the UK who is running a single-person Fediverse instance at https://gts.schizofucked.monster/@chaos/. The URL is a good start but it keeps getting worse. (archive)
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Chaos identifies himself as "vessel age 22; schizofucked beepy slimegoddesses", and "not a person, do not refer to it as such or include it in 'people'"
They have a contact page on contact.owo.monster (archive)
Apart from the usual grifting, Chaos likes to post "13:12" at 12 past 1 pm. Chaos also likes to post about his rape and abuse fantasies online for everyone to read. In principle this is the only reason I am posting this here, I simply havent seen such a fucked up person before. The first time i saw these photos my stomach started to hurt.
This is the post thread pinned to his profile. (archive)
Chaos often posts about his sick fantasies (archive)
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Here "cnc" means "consensual non-consent" which basically means you subject yourself to being raped.
This one from June is, I think, the cherry on top (archive)
This person seems to genuinely believe they are an electronic device, and they want to be destroyed.
Of course there is some trace of ageplay and ABDL in the mix.
(archive)
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The alt text of the second photo mentions that these marks are cigarette burns.
In an unrelated note that first abuser "phos" seems to hit pretty well for someone with a lazy eye
His other abuser, "freya" @freya@chaosfem.tw is very brave and stunning (photo from ko-fi profile)
I have not seen a person disturbed to such extent before. I can understand the psychology and traumas behind 40 year old men deciding to wear dresses, people treading depression with HRT and so and so. But thus guy, he just wants to have the shit beaten out of him, be burned with cigarettes, possibly electrocuted, repeatedly. What leads to such fantasies?
And does anyone know what is the reason people on the fediverse put fucking content warnings on food pics?
(archive)
Chaos identifies himself as "vessel age 22; schizofucked beepy slimegoddesses", and "not a person, do not refer to it as such or include it in 'people'"
They have a contact page on contact.owo.monster (archive)
Apart from the usual grifting, Chaos likes to post "13:12" at 12 past 1 pm. Chaos also likes to post about his rape and abuse fantasies online for everyone to read. In principle this is the only reason I am posting this here, I simply havent seen such a fucked up person before. The first time i saw these photos my stomach started to hurt.
This is the post thread pinned to his profile. (archive)
Chaos often posts about his sick fantasies (archive)
(archive)
(archive)
Here "cnc" means "consensual non-consent" which basically means you subject yourself to being raped.
This one from June is, I think, the cherry on top (archive)
This person seems to genuinely believe they are an electronic device, and they want to be destroyed.
Of course there is some trace of ageplay and ABDL in the mix.
(archive)
(archive)
(archive)
The alt text of the second photo mentions that these marks are cigarette burns.
In an unrelated note that first abuser "phos" seems to hit pretty well for someone with a lazy eye
His other abuser, "freya" @freya@chaosfem.tw is very brave and stunning (photo from ko-fi profile)
I have not seen a person disturbed to such extent before. I can understand the psychology and traumas behind 40 year old men deciding to wear dresses, people treading depression with HRT and so and so. But thus guy, he just wants to have the shit beaten out of him, be burned with cigarettes, possibly electrocuted, repeatedly. What leads to such fantasies?
And does anyone know what is the reason people on the fediverse put fucking content warnings on food pics?