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Should be a wild four years.

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Do you know how the Reagan Amnesty (Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986) turned out?
Dude isn’t it awesome how the US government literally had a piece of paper in front of them that said “IMPORT MILLIONS OF MINORITIES YES/NO” and they saw that and said YES PLEASE!!!
 
Why is Chyaina suddenly having manlet rage against the world? they have been uncharacteristically chimping out more than usual.
They have about a 30% unemployment rate, various sectors of their economy are completely collapsing, and to make matters worse very few of their youth that go abroad to foreign universities are opting to return.

The Communist leaders of China are rightfully concerned about an uprising/revolution because the conditions are correct and their country has a very long and rich history of such a thing.

Also a revolutionary or interim government would very likely be pro Western or at least less hostile to the West and the thought of this scares the Chinese Boomer.
 
The Communist leaders of China are rightfully concerned about an uprising/peasant revolt because the conditions are correct and there country has a very long and rich history of such a thing.
If Covid didn’t do it when the chink overlords were beating dogs to death with hammers and welding apartment doors shut, nothing will do it.

The chinks, unironically, are buck broken.
 
If Covid didn’t do it when the chink overlords were beating dogs to death with hammers and welding apartment doors shut, nothing will do it.

The chinks, unironically, are buck broken.
the only thing the chink common man cares about is the face of china being strong on the world stage, and the assurance of their leaders that the economy is good. if either of those things falters, the chinks will turn on the ccp in a flash. the ccp maintains its iron grip with a lot of permission from the chinese populace, whether protestors like to admit it or not.
 
They have about a 30% unemployment rate, various sectors of their economy are completely collapsing, and to make matters worse very few of their youth that go abroad to foreign universities are opting to return.

The Communist leaders of China are rightfully concerned about an uprising/revolution because the conditions are correct and their country has a very long and rich history of such a thing.
I would love to see it. I really don't care about the China's influence on the rest of the world or anything.

I would just love to see the weird china right wing shills, and the tankies cope about it.

I have a hard time believing their would be an uprising like the past, with the current government of china though. Seems like the cards are stacked way to high in their favor for the old ways to work. I imagine if there was a serious revolution there now. If it succeeded at all, it would be a long bloody conflict ( if it isn't crushed right away )
 
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If Covid didn’t do it when the chink overlords were beating dogs to death with hammers and welding apartment doors shut, nothing will do it.

The chinks, unironically, are buck broken.
Chineesers will put up with some real bad shit if the promise of a better life is sitting on the other side of it. For a long time that promise was being kept. Now the government wants to import Jeets and the slopes know that there is no better life waiting on the other side of that.
 
I don't know how the amnesty process would work in regards to getting people documented because I don't work in a field that requires that knowledge. There's probably some type of process for that which I don't know about and it's probably reallllllllllllllyyyyyy long and in some hard to find document on a government archive somewhere no?

Alright, this part warrants a separate post altogether. Without being facetious, let alone incendiary toward this statement, all I'm gonna say is that you've got a rude awakening coming if you think that amnesty at the scale you're talking about is even remotely feasible. Unlike the rest of the world, the USA does not have a singular form of documentation that incontrovertibly proves that you're a US citizen. There's a reason why "two forms of ID" are always required when doing basically anything like cashing a cheque or signing up for a driver's license. You would think that RealID, let alone Enhanced ID, would've fixed this problem. Sadly, the RealID programme doesn't count as an all-in-one proof of citizenship despite being pushed back year after year until Trump started playing hardball and siad "enough's enough."

Think back to the DOGE firings from earlier this year. Remember what Scott Bessent said about most of the federal systems being ancient and written in COBOL? Just because we have some things that are computerised on the federal level, that doesn't mean that everything is computerised. In essence, we went from social security numbers being kept on hard copy and forcing a government stooge to sift through dusty file cabinets to having that same government stooge keying stuff into a command line that's probably the same age as his great-grandfather. Let's be perfectly blunt here: this sordid state of affairs is not unique to the federal government alone. It also applies to basically all levels of state and municipal government in the USA, albeit in varying and haphazard stages.

Amnesty, at the scale you're talking about where tens of millions of illegal aliens theoretically either get green cards or citizenship, is a logistical nightmare to the point where the more pragmatic solution is to deport them altogether. It's a running joke about how immigration courts are backed up for decades since Reagan... but that's legitimately the goddamn truth, even today. My parents naturalised, I'm a born and bred American, but I can tell you this: they damn sure didn't get naturalised overnight. The process took literal decades because they had to prove their residency for X amount of years, renounce citizenship of their countries of birth, study the basics of civics that build up the US citizenship exam, and then receive their certificates of naturalisation.

You could argue that if the logistics are a nightmware with the current systems we have in place, we could try sidestepping that with a fastrack path... but therein lies the problem. The Biden administration tried doing that with the CBP One app, and it was an unmitigated, runaway disaster. Instead of sheltering in Mexico while waiting for their cases to be heard, migrants were allowed entry into the USA against current federal law, which the Biden administration sidestepped with "temporary protected status" while giving migrants their court dates to appear on. This does not work in America because we, as Americans, live in a high trust society... and most of these migrants come from low-trust countries where the judiciary amounts to kangaroo court systems.

If I, as a Venezuelan migrant coming into the USA from Mexico under Biden's tenure, have my court case adjudicated and it turns out that I'm not allowed in the country because of a felony I committed... what incentive do I even have to get the fuck out of the USA when the enforcement of immigration law in the USA became so laughably pathetic that I could walk around in broad daylight in front of a neutered ICE, work off the books, and send remittances back to my family trapped in Venezuela? This is just one example, a highly cherry-picked and arbitrary example to be sure, but multiply that by the magnitude of immigration we saw during the Biden administration.

These fastrack paths that sidestep current immigration law also facilitate some of the worst human trafficking while emboldening cartels that facilitate such trafficking in the first place. That's another angle that you fail to take into account, JFYI. Let's say that I paid a smuggler network to get me into the USA, I'm given my court date and TPS by the federal government, and I'm able to work however I can. There are still legal barriers to me working a proper, tax-paying job. Since I paid a smuggler to get me into the USA, I now have to work on the black market to earn my scratch, and then use Western Union, MoneyGram, or anything else along those lines to pay off the cartel that got me here in the first place. Even then, who's to say they won't keep extorting me after I paid off my debts? Bear in mind that I'm speaking as an able-bodied man; the picture becomes infinitely more grim if I was a girl or a woman in this example, since the option for sex trafficking immediately means that I'd get funnelled into prostitution under pain of getting beheaded and my death footage being sent to my family back home via WhatsApp.

You wanna know why I keep saying you drank the bourgeois, neoliberal Kool-Aid, homie? It's because you're thinking in idealistic, abstract terms that ignore the material reality of shit happening on the ground right now, and the material reality of our past. I might not be a bleeding heart leftist anymore, but I'll be damned if I let someone say "amnesty is pragmatic" and get away with it.
 
My grandfather was a 33rd degree Freemason, and through him me and my brothers learned some about what some of these "elites" know. I don't know if Trump personally does, but others for sure do. For thousands of years shamans have gone through a death and resurrection ritual as the final phase of their initiation, it's found all over the world. Ancient Indo-Europeans considered this the personal recreation of the Sky Deers journey, you know when you see shamans wearing the deer antler crown? That's what it's for. After that they can assume the sky deer form to travel between realms on the world tree AKA the Kabbalah tree, Yggdrasil, etc. and communicate with spirits.
It's worth looking into m8.
Youre talking about Bo Murgel, right?
 
STOP CONDITIONING YOURSELF TO ACCEPT INTERRACIAL PROPAGANDA -- THIS IS THE ONLY COUNTRY I HAVE EVER BEEN TO THAT DOES THIS
It's happening a lot here in Australia, which is weird because we barely have any Africans. Not only that, it's all over children's TV, especially those made in the UK (if it's not interracial couples with kids, it's gay couples with kids). It really is nothing short of in your face propaganda.
 
if only we could force the faggots in congress to do this.
Even if they did, it wouldn't matter since they'd still work on the behalf of their home countries (like Ilhan "Brother Fucker" Omar). They don't give two shits about oaths because they too come from low-trust societies.

It's happening a lot here in Australia, which is weird because we barely have any Africans. Not only that, it's all over children's TV, especially those made in the UK (if it's not interracial couples with kids, it's gay couples with kids). It really is nothing short of in your face propaganda.
Noticed it in UK shows, but Aussie ones too?
 
@Dread First All that wall of text can be summed up "fuck illegals": in 2 words.

You're not wrong. It's easier to say "kill illegals, deport illegals, roundhouse kick illegals..." but @Exegesis is a self-professed leftist and I just couldn't resist giving into the urge to write a leftbook textwall as I engage in a good, old-fashioned round of leftist cannibalism for old time's sake.
 
You're not wrong. It's easier to say "kill illegals, deport illegals, roundhouse kick illegals..." but @Exegesis is a self-professed leftist and I just couldn't resist giving into the urge to write a leftbook textwall as I engage in a good, old-fashioned round of leftist cannibalism for old time's sake.
I'd say a bit less than outright kill them and and all but send them on an easy flight home.

If you're an illegal, go. All illegals just GO. I don't get why it's so hard to kick the assess out. Just GO
 
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