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- 16 Gru 2019
These out of their mind fags, everything has to be about self inserts into fantasy stories. They all beleive they are the rebels... I mean the resistance (rebels sounds too much like the Confederacy, of horrors).
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These out of their mind fags, everything has to be about self inserts into fantasy stories. They all beleive they are the rebels... I mean the resistance (rebels sounds too much like the Confederacy, of horrors).
This is why we should respect North Korea. It's a REPUBLIC.Hitler: Describes self as "Conservative Revolutionary"
American Conservatives a century later: Fascism is lefty politics because... just... look at the party name!
1. I am not finding that quote anywhere.Hitler: Describes self as "Conservative Revolutionary"
American Conservatives a century later: Fascism is lefty politics because... just... look at the party name!
Actions speak louder than words. Misnomers certainly exist in politics, thinking of the rightist "Liberal Democratic Party" in Japan in that vein.This is why we should respect North Korea. It's a REPUBLIC.
It's literally in their NAME.
So is Communist China. They're not just a REPUBLIC, they're a PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC.
Their names justify their existence! They call themselves the anti-bad-guy squad, so that's what they are. Their names justify whatever they do.
Zaid Tabani is a fucking moron. A useful idiot by the Philip DeFranco scam. Honestly I think it's about time both Philip DeFranco and Zaid Tabani should get their own threads more so on Philip since his infamous BetterHelp scam sponsorThe last thing this country needs are sandnigger children and pajeets trying to explain to us Constitutional edits that they themselves do not understand.
You put words in the man's mouth and then use the fake quote to create a strawman? What the fuck?Actions speak louder than words. Misnomers certainly exist in politics, thinking of the rightist "Liberal Democratic Party" in Japan in that vein.
@Nihil Jung - That bit of Hitler self-describing himself comes from the Armin Mohler political science book I mentioned above. "Socially far right, economically center to center-left" isn't very compelling evidence towards an individual person or a political movement being "far left". Small independent businesses were allowed to stay open in the Third Reich, I haven't heard of things like Hitler trying to abolish private property (not that I'm saying that didn't happen or wasn't considered at some point). Eugenics strikes me as more of a right wing thing, given the American left, for example, has a lot of disabled people among them, and a lot of people on the far right try to use things like severe heart diseases or schizophrenia to promote eugenics to some degree.
Maybe the mistake is in trying to impose a rigid left/right dialectic on all politics, especially if it's purely economic in definition and doesn't consider other distinctions such as nationalism/globalism, social conservatism/social progressivism etc.Saying National Socialism was fully right or left is a mistake.
Here's the book itself below; I'd read a copy and see for yourself:You put words in the man's mouth and then use the fake quote to create a strawman? What the fuck?
This bit is amusing to me to some degree, considering the type of stuff I actually read books about/study. I'll just leave it at this: you could read Toland's Hitler biography for example (or Mein Kampf or writings of other members of the Reich's government / Mussolini's writings as well) or any of Stanley Payne's body of work as I have. We've all got tools to get this information, you don't have to listen to people on Kiwi Farms or 4chan or Youtube and take their word for it.You're not informed enough to discuss this stuff, kid.
When I was in Nepal 20 years ago the entire country outside of Kathmandu was under the control of Maoist rebels. None of this is anything that wasn't happening 2 weeks ago when Kirk was still alive.
Sure but @Candlelight Desolation is just gonna come back with another made up Hilter quote and prove you wrong.Since we're on an autistic tangent, fascism doesn't fit on the left/right axis at all. A "conservative" in any polity wishes to preserve tradition and social norms. The Nazis were a revolutionary movement, and wanted to tear up tradition, discard it, and rebuild Germany as radically as Mao wanted to rebuild China.
Leftists can't comprehend fascism because they think that tearing down the ancien regime deterministically leads to equality, gay marriage, and electric cars. Conservatives can't, either, because to them, "big government" means "the left." It's even more confusing to American conservatives, since American conservatives are liberals, and can't really comprehend something that is both illiberal and not left-wing.
You attributed the quote to Hitler describing himself. You've produced the material I was directly responding too, my refutiation of which wholly separates the German Conservative Revolution from Nazism, saying their relationship was ambiguous and it described that Nazism wasnt informed by Conservative Revolution's writing. Read more.Here's the book itself below; I'd read a copy and see for yourself:
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Never said it was fully left or fully right.
This bit is amusing to me to some degree, considering the type of stuff I actually read books about/study. I'll just leave it at this: you could read Toland's Hitler biography for example (or Mein Kampf or writings of other members of the Reich's government / Mussolini's writings as well) or any of Stanley Payne's body of work as I have. We've all got tools to get this information, you don't have to listen to people on Kiwi Farms or 4chan or Youtube and take their word for it.
They were willing to kill Trump to keep him out of the White House, if he was on the Epstein list then Biden's staff would've leaked it years ago and Trump himself wouldn't have promised to release it. I honestly don't think Trump is on it but it's still a horrible look and a broken promise so he deserves to be raked over the coals for it.And Trump visibly sweating over the Epstein list.
They were willing to kill Trump to keep him out of the White House, if he was on the Epstein list then Biden's staff would've leaked it years ago and Trump himself wouldn't have promised to release it. I honestly don't think Trump is on it but it's still a horrible look and a broken promise so he deserves to be raked over the coals for it.
They're all on it, or too many people from too many important positions are on it for anyone to release it. Or at least, hypothetically, if Epstein was an intelligence asset producing kompromat for the purpose of control and influence, that's how he would have wanted it.They were willing to kill Trump to keep him out of the White House, if he was on the Epstein list then Biden's staff would've leaked it years ago and Trump himself wouldn't have promised to release it. I honestly don't think Trump is on it but it's still a horrible look and a broken promise so he deserves to be raked over the coals for it.
Is there a news story to reference? I am filing a complaint. Trash bitchesSo two women from Arkansas went and destroyed a memorial meant for Kirk. After the video was put online they got arrested, the older one lost her job, and she got kicked out of her home. However, they are now lying and making themselves look like the victims. They made a Gofundme saying their free speech was violated leaving out they committed a crime. They have already made over $4000. Here's a link to the gofundme. Report them!
Yeah. As far as economics to, I really haven't been happy with Trump's decisions. The tariff shit won't fix the issues. Just like the government raising taxes won't. Or trying to regulate a market into some kind of correction ( maybe the one exception would be actually enforcing the laws on monopolies, instead of letting them get away with it even if they are found to be a monopoly like Google).While MAGA is right to go after the Left with a vengeance, I find the litmus test is whether they are willing to admit Trump's economic policies have done the opposite of what they're supposed to do. His foreign policy isn't that much different than the Biden's. Trump just looks better by being compared to the Left, whom are skinwalkers pretending to be human.
Is there a news story to reference? I am filing a complaint. Trash bitches
In between doing night routines, I grabbed my copy of the book and found the quote - it is on page 223 on the bottom, rest of the paragraph bleeds over to the next page:Sure but @Candlelight Desolation is just gonna come back with another made up Hilter quote and prove you wrong.
You attributed the quote to Hitler describing himself. You've produced the material I was directly responding too, my refutiation of which wholly separates the German Conservative Revolution from Nazism, saying their relationship was ambiguous and it described that Nazism wasnt informed by Conservative Revolution's writing. Read more.
So there you go. More or less looking at rightist politics in Europe through a European lens rather than American right wing, regardless if Hitler by and large didn't view his movement as part of the Conservative Revolution even if he borrowed bits from it. I do apologize for having such an irritated reaction at first leading to escalating the wrangling about this to this point (and around midnight, to add insult to injury), though I figured that since I own a print copy I should quote the book itself since I've got access to that information that way also to show I'm not pulling this out of thin air.Hitler never used the term "Conservative Revolution," although he did speak of the NSDAP being a "conservative revolutionary party" and that he himself should be considered the "most conservative revolutionary in the world." These offhand remarks, however, deceive us concerning the essential differences between the Conservative Revolution and National Socialism, which were constantly emphasized both by Hitler and his disciples. For them, the Conservative Revolution was only part of the "reaction" that "with the slogan 'Conservative Revolution' was propagating the restoration of conditions from 500 years ago."