US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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just say the elphant in the room that donald should not of won 2016 & 2024 election but hillary & camalia where unlikeable people.]
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2016 you are wrong; you need to reacquaint yourself with Trump's primary run from near dead last to the front runner in 6 months. Its a thing of beauty. He did exactly what he needed to do with was not go after the top dogs until he was ready, but using the peopel directly ahead of him to build momentum.

It wasn't just that Hilary was unlikeable (though that helped) they would have needed to run a Blue Dog who could have out-trumped Trump. Bernie would have gotten shredded, but at least it wouldn't have been an openly and embarrassingly rigged system. Trump (and I'm using that as the term for the enter Trump campaign apparatus not just as man himself) campaigned smart by basically writing off California and other vote-blue-no-matter-who hellholes and focused on battleground states.
This not only concentrated on grabbing voters from where they were the most valuable, but this plus energizing the base in Red states with the big rallies gave the impression of groundswell of support.

Now, you can say this isn't a very good-for-the country way to campaign and I can't say you're wrong, just that Trump didn't invent it - only took it to its logical conclusion.
You can also say that Trump shouldn't have won in 2016 and I wouldn't wholly disagree with you: that someone who who had never served in elected office shouldn't have been able to get the top slot. But Trump's 2016 win was 100% grand strategy from the grassroots on up, and he earned that shit.
or to tl;dr: Trump's 2016 win was because ALL politicians are unlikeable, not just his opponent.

2024 you are probably right... UNTIL Trump got shot. I thought it would have been toss up on who America hated the least, but that moment I the Dems were fucked. The Democrats had done nothing productive from 2020-2024 (well unless you were a tranny or a nigger) to help the country and by nearly ever metric every non-tranny, non-nigger person in the US was worse off. There was no "positive" campaign the Dems could run in 2024, the only thing they could do was go negative and say the other guy was worse.
And that strategy was knee-capped when one of their deranged NPCs got so wound up they killed a man and shot their opponent. there was no way they could do attack ads with any teeth after that.
 
Ghostse powiedział(a):
2024 you are probably right... UNTIL Trump got shot. I thought it would have been toss up on who America hated the least, but that moment I the Dems were fucked. The Democrats had done nothing productive from 2020-2024 (well unless you were a tranny or a nigger) to help the country and by nearly ever metric every non-tranny, non-nigger person in the US was worse off. There was no "positive" campaign the Dems could run in 2024, the only thing they could do was go negative and say the other guy was worse.
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It really is interesting to think how 2024 could have gone without Butler. Trump still likely would have gotten the nomination but the party likely wouldn't have been so behind him so there could have been the vipers nipping at his heels the whole time.

Biden staying in is harder to guess. There still was the debate disaster but without the horrible optics of Trump getting shot at, would he/his handlers try to keep him in? Would he survive the grind of appearances if he did stay on the campaign trail?
 
deport him


she calls him a retard and asks the cop to execute him

Ezekiel Guerrero, 19, was busted after violently grabbing the barista by the arm and trying to pull her into his car during a late-night pit stop at Ladybug Bikini Espresso — where servers sport bikinis or lingerie — around 2:15 a.m. on Aug. 18, according to a police report.
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“I’m honestly just really upset that since he’s young and it’s his first offense that he got no bail, or house arrest,” the shaken victim said in a lengthy statement to FOX 13 Seattle.

“If he’s committing violent acts like this at the rip age of 19 years old, I’m not too confident that he won’t do that again to someone else who might end up less fortunate than I did.”
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I think the reason the Charlie Kirk shit hit different is that by all accounts he was a kind, generous, and unfailingly polite Christian man with a beautiful wife and children.

He was basically the right's Mr Rogers. If an asshole like Fuentes or Sam Hyde got domed instead few Americans outside their respective fanbases would give a shit.
 
Jace on ice powiedział(a):
I think the reason the Charlie Kirk shit hit different is that by all accounts he was a kind, generous, and unfailingly polite Christian man with a beautiful wife and children.

He was basically the right's Mr Rogers. If an asshole like Fuentes or Sam Hyde got domed instead few Americans outside their respective fanbases would give a shit.
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Charlie literally never hurt anyone. Ever. People tried fucking with him constantly however. I still remember when Nick the Spic heckled him about the USS Liberty and he just had to take that at his normie gathering he was trying to hold. Even then he moved on from it, TPUSA grew, played a major part in 2024, and he was still just chugging a long doing his debate stuff long after everyone else gave up. It is sad because he was the last of an era. The last debater standing.
 
Jace on ice powiedział(a):
I think the reason the Charlie Kirk shit hit different is that by all accounts he was a kind, generous, and unfailingly polite Christian man with a beautiful wife and children.

He was basically the right's Mr Rogers. If an asshole like Fuentes or Sam Hyde got domed instead few Americans outside their respective fanbases would give a shit.
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That's what was really shocking about it. Why this schmuck? He was the diet cola of conservatism. Then his neck exploded, and the animals cheered because it's what they were told to do. Now half the country seems to understand that if the animals will cheer for that guy's death, they'll cheer for their death too.
 
Jace on ice powiedział(a):
I think the reason the Charlie Kirk shit hit different is that by all accounts he was a kind, generous, and unfailingly polite Christian man with a beautiful wife and children.

He was basically the right's Mr Rogers. If an asshole like Fuentes or Sam Hyde got domed instead few Americans outside their respective fanbases would give a shit.
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It was also a very fucking brutal way to go. A literal volcano of blood. I don't think anyone who saw it happen thought he was going to survive that.

You don't really see such a clear picture of the guy getting shot that often.
 
Necrosan powiedział(a):
It was also a very fucking brutal way to go. A literal volcano of blood. I don't think anyone who saw it happen thought he was going to survive that.
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He died instantly and did not feel any pain whatsoever. In the long list of deaths it doesn't even come close to the worse you could possibly have (in the scale of pain and suffering). It's still an absolute terrible way to die and definitely should have never happened. He didn't deserve to die live with his wife and 2 very young kids watching
 
Rykel22 powiedział(a):
It really is interesting to think how 2024 could have gone without Butler. Trump still likely would have gotten the nomination but the party likely wouldn't have been so behind him so there could have been the vipers nipping at his heels the whole time.

Biden staying in is harder to guess. There still was the debate disaster but without the horrible optics of Trump getting shot at, would he/his handlers try to keep him in? Would he survive the grind of appearances if he did stay on the campaign trail?
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The Dems SHOULD have opened the primary long before they had to put Grandpa in the home. I think even sundowning Biden would have done better than Hairy Kamel. But I think, if we take Butler out of the equation, someone actually charismatic who legitimately won the Democratic primary - not just a woman put in because the DNC exec committee believed tumblr was like reality, but someone who actually won over the base on their own merit - would have been able to beat Punished Trump in the campaign. I don't want to say "easily" but just being likable and putting in effort to attract a base would have given them a comfortable win, IMHO.

Trump '24 had already shown he couldn't drain the swamp, just slow it filling up. And even if we assume trump is right and the 2020 election was stolen by Crooked Biden, he was behaving like a cringey loser by complaining about it for 4 years. "Wah they robbed me" is cuck behavior, the sort of thing the 2015/6 Centipede would have mocked ferociously.
 
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