Disaster Kentucky man wakes during organ harvesting procedure, prompting federal investigation

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(LEX 18) — The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is investigating organ donation practices after a Kentucky organization allegedly began harvesting organs from people who may not have been dead.

A House subcommittee held a hearing Tuesday on organ donation safety lapses, some concerning Kentucky-based nonprofit Network for Hope, which merged with Kentucky Organ Donor Affiliates (KODA).

TJ Hoover was declared brain dead after suffering an overdose in October 2021, but his sister Donna Rhorer says doctors attempted to harvest his organs while he was still showing signs of life.

Rhorer says TJ's eyes were open and tracking movement during his honor walk, when family members gather to say goodbye before organ donation surgery.

"Almost immediately as soon as his honor walk started, his eyes were opened, and they were tracking, looking around at the people that were there," Rhorer said.

Approximately 45 minutes after TJ was taken to the operating room, Rhorer says a doctor informed the family they had stopped the procedure.

"She said, 'I stopped it, he's not ready, he woke up,'" Rhorer said.

Natasha Miller, who worked as a surgical preservationist on TJ's case for KODA, confirmed he showed signs of life during the procedure.

"He was moving a lot, just thrashing, not settled," Miller said.

According to Miller, who is no longer with KODA, TJ's declaring physician believed he showed too many signs of life to continue with the surgery, but KODA wanted to proceed anyway.

Rhorer didn't learn the full extent of what happened until she was contacted by Nyckoletta Martin, a former surgical preservation coordinator for KODA who had been scheduled to take over TJ's case.

"I was really surprised that that morning he had been taken to the cardiac cath lab, he was paralyzed and sedated, and moved on with the OR. The hospital staff said they were incredibly alarmed, calling it euthanasia," Martin said. "The cardiologist said he didn't know why TJ was given a poor prognosis, he said it didn't look like it was brain dead."

Martin resigned from KODA shortly after TJ's case. Rhorer says TJ now suffers from PTSD from the trauma, and both women have been advocating for organ donation reform.

"TJ was able to fight for his life...and he's still here. And there's others that are still here. But there's a lot that are not," Rhorer said.

Network for Hope responded to inquiries about TJ's case and Tuesday's hearings with a statement that reads:

"The Congressional Committee hearing on our nation’s organ procurement organizations was an important step toward increasing transparency for the millions of people who choose to register to be organ donors across the country. It also offered a valuable opportunity to clarify the role OPOs play and to highlight the life-saving work being done by organizations like Network for Hope. We hold ourselves to the highest standards and are committed to ongoing improvement as we carry out the sacred responsibility of honoring each individual’s decision to become an organ donor. We remain focused on our mission and dedicated to earning and maintaining the public’s trust in the donation and transplant system."
Barry Massa, CEO For Network for Hope

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The Island was a really good movie
 
I wonder why we're suddenly seeing all of these articles about this kind of stuff now?

Also I know there is someone reading this RIGHT NOW that is putting off removing the organ donor check from your license. Just fucking do it, stop being lazy. You never know what could happen tomorrow and for most states you can actually change it online
 
Had an ex who worked in medicine who swore up and down this shit didn't happen.

Idk what else you can expect from our current society. Vultures are allowed to hover around in the hopes of harvesting organs as soon as physically possible - still warm and blood pumping is optimal for them.As long as doctors and the wider medical establishment tolerate it, this will keep happening.
 
Are the harvested organs actually being used in immediate transplants or are they just getting shipped off to some lab for ‘research’?
 
that's like a teacher saying that school shootings don't happen on the authority that she is a teacher. Sure, it didn't happen at her school, but they do in fact happen.
Every teacher I know is a histrionic idiot who thinks school shootings are the number one cause of all mortality in the entire world.

But I get what you're saying.
 
Why do you need to use restraints?
No reason, said Jeetju Goolupta as he started cutting.
 
I took the “donor” mark off my DL a couple years ago. I just don’t trust the medical system after Covid. It really opened my eyes.
I did the same about a decade ago out of a growing general distrust from seeing more and more the incongruity between how you're told the world works and how the world really works.
 
Why was he declared brain dead
I wonder why we're suddenly seeing all of these articles about this kind of stuff now?
This guy, like many donors, wasn't declared brain dead.

They changed the organ donation laws a few years ago to include BOTH brain death and "circulatory death" where blood stops going to the brain through the circulatory system. That's why the stories are coming from the last few years.

But guess what? They can and do induce so-called circulatory death by drugs and even (rarely) a balloon catheter to a major blood vessel to the brain blocking blood moving through. They use "dual use" drugs like benzos and opioids at overdose amounts.

ALSO, the heart must be beating when they take the major organs so they cut you up when your circulation is actually moving. They give you 30k to 50k units of Herparin to keep your blood from clotting.

The justification for this is that the doctor determined the person was almost brain dead or would get there really, really soon because of whatever injury/medical event caused the coma. Then they can legally claim the dual use drugs are easing suffering because...blah blah blah. This "dual use" designation for the drugs has been tested many times in court and they win.

But that means to new guidelines are basically letting doctors kill you to help strangers get organs. They can also keep your dying body on life support for a couple days to look around for compatible organs and a harvesting team. That drives up the medical bills because you're still technically alive at that point. You family has to sit there and wait and wait for you to die because of these motherfucking butchers.

Your family can't even successfully stop it if you've listed yourself for organ donation through the DMV or whatever. One mother tried to save her teen son, filed an emergency lawsuit with the court and LOST. The poor kid just checked the "yes" box on his drivers license application at age 16.

See the thread from a few days ago with the NYT expose on this:
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/a-push-for-more-organ-transplants-is-putting-donors-at-risk.224347/
 
Remember to remove yourself from every registry in every state you've lived in, and/or had a drivers license in. You might be on many registries and god forbid you have an accident while visiting Grandma in whatever state.

I don't know what military member are signed up for after they leave, but watch out for that too.
 
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