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Should be a wild four years.

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The BBB is still a decent bill but yes the RINO's refused to allow several high value laws to go ahead

For some reason RINO's really really want Medicaid to pay for illegals and gender surgeries. Beats my why, it's not going to be a winning topic for them.

The gun stuff was expected, I think it was put in the BBB just so they could cut something to satisfy the RINO's need to be seen as still relevant.

We will have to see what the House does with it. I still have hope they will shove the Medicaid stuff back in and we can work on gun rights later. It's more important to get the illegal alien shit in and passed then it is to get a few folks their suppressors.

For the record I agree on the gun rights stuff but I do see it as a necessary sacrifice to get the better items passed.
 
Does it even matter that the USA has infinite debt that will never be paid? What are the other countries going to do? Stop trading with the US?
debt is mainly owed to banks and financial institutions, not foreign governments.
if you as the us government default on your debt, that alone might cause a financial crisis with bank failures and all the associated economic problems that come with that.
your trustworthiness in the finance industry also goes down the toilet, you will have a hard time borrowing more money in the future
once that happens, once nobody will lend you money, how do you keep government functional?
either you balance the budget so you dont need to borrow (but if you were able to do that you would have just done it earlier to avoid this whole situation)
or you go straight for the money printer, which causes inflation far beyond anything we have seen in recent history
 
For some reason RINO's really really want Medicaid to pay for illegals and gender surgeries. Beats my why, it's not going to be a winning topic for them.
Because they're bought and paid for by the medical industry. It's a way for hospitals & insurance companies to siphon money off of the federal government.

What's more, because it is illegal to turn away ANYONE in the ER, it's one of the ways hospitals try to recoup those costs.

I.E. It's all about the fucking money.
 
Most of the time it's being sapped off rather than actually helping people in need:
- The Illegals brought into the country and giving blank checks/free care, screwing over hard working citizens.
- The Hoodrats who get pregnant at 18 and then spend the majority of their life cashing in free healthcare and EBT.
- The Drug Addicts who claim mental disability so that way they don't just croak over from a OD.
- The Managerial class that builds up and bloats the system due to how overreaching it is
Possibly-stupid question, but why, when I talk to people irl, do they deny these people exist? They must just not interact with them right? I'm being serious here. Even when I speak to people on that side who I genuinely respect, they always point to "studies" and "data" and say "anecdotes don't count" or "Don't fall for right wing propaganda" but I feel like they must never just walk outside or take public transportation, or things like that. It's one thing to say "Oh we're living in the safest time ever!" or "The welfare queen is a republican myth!" but it's like they've never even seen those things themselves.
 
For the record I agree on the gun rights stuff but I do see it as a necessary sacrifice to get the better items passed.
Gun rights has been butchered to hell and back, especially the meaning of it. But I suppose that's for the best. It was originally an insurgency clause. If the Left had the stones to pick up rifles and force a change upon the government in DC, they could've gotten it done much faster, especially given their numbers. They could easily throw Trump back in prison if they were that brave.

I.E. It's all about the fucking money.
This country was founded by people who helped push Britain to go to war with France, then refused to pay when Britain started taxing them to pay for that war.

It was always about the fucking money.
 
The BBB is still a decent bill but yes the RINO's refused to allow several high value laws to go ahead

For some reason RINO's really really want Medicaid to pay for illegals and gender surgeries. Beats my why, it's not going to be a winning topic for them.

The gun stuff was expected, I think it was put in the BBB just so they could cut something to satisfy the RINO's need to be seen as still relevant.

We will have to see what the House does with it. I still have hope they will shove the Medicaid stuff back in and we can work on gun rights later. It's more important to get the illegal alien shit in and passed then it is to get a few folks their suppressors.

For the record I agree on the gun rights stuff but I do see it as a necessary sacrifice to get the better items passed.
They snuck the Medicaid stuff back in after the vote-o-rama last night so we should be okay on that front, considering most GOP reps want to not fuck up the bill even more
 
Nigga have you not been paying attention to half the shit these absolute scum got up to. How many little children have to be murdered and raped until we're finally allowed to deport them.
The way it's been going I'd have to say all of them. But that's not happening. And if it is that's a good thing or however that cognitive dissonance goes.
Just give his ass a muzzle next time and some kevlar mittens, he won't be able to bite anything then.
Muzzle and straight jacket, if they hooked him up to static line they could successfully paradrop him with all these in place as well.
 
The BBB is still a decent bill but yes the RINO's refused to allow several high value laws to go ahead

For some reason RINO's really really want Medicaid to pay for illegals and gender surgeries. Beats my why, it's not going to be a winning topic for them.

The gun stuff was expected, I think it was put in the BBB just so they could cut something to satisfy the RINO's need to be seen as still relevant.

We will have to see what the House does with it. I still have hope they will shove the Medicaid stuff back in and we can work on gun rights later. It's more important to get the illegal alien shit in and passed then it is to get a few folks their suppressors.

For the record I agree on the gun rights stuff but I do see it as a necessary sacrifice to get the better items passed.
There is just limits to what can be done in reconciliation anyways and everyone wants their piece of the pie. The handouts are whatever because they are extremely limited but ICE got 20x the funding, 18k more agents and the wall got all the funding it would ever need.

Remember first term when Trump couldn't even get a few billion for the wall but now he gets ~$160 billion in total commitments for the border. Anyone who doesn't see that as a huge win is legit dumb as fuck the ONLY thing that matters currently is immigration.

Debt ceiling is a meme. GDP growth over 2% makes the BBB cut the actual debt anyways but none of that shit matters until immigration is under control that shit is totally fucking pointless. Massie and Elon would be thrilled to be "debt free" with 1 billion migrants brought in while people live in pods with neurolink.

Removing whatever the number of illegals that are in the country would immediately give us trillions a year to completely pay off the debt and is easily the fastest way to get it done even if you spend trillions doing so. Anyone advocating other measures to cut the debt is dumb and/or in on it.
 
You've been averaging 6 gorillion posts per day, you should take care of your son instead Ethan Klein
No argument can make up for the fact you've admitted your brain has golf ball sized holes in it. I'm really sorry you tripped into the nailgun, but it's not fair to take that out on everyone around you by being a bum.
 
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