US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[StudMccool]

Yes, because it kept the Japanese government from being able to use them as fifth collumnists and also protected the Japanese Americans from being pogromed or otherwise attacked. It was for the best.

sure why not
security measures during wartime are a necessity. if your country is host to a significant population of hostile foreigners, that's something you need to deal with unless you want to open yourself up to widespread sabotage and subversion.

Perhaps I missed it, but when was it redefined and to what? Internment camps were also happening with the (assumedly) current definition of citizenship, so what exactly does this have to do with a modern redefinition outside of trying to avoid change by not-so-subtly fear mongering about past injustices?

Also, for the record, I don't think internment was a good idea.

So the funny gotcha I thought would cute was that like 1/3rd of the photos are just Nazi Concentration camps and the "gotcha" was supposed to be the fact you cant tell the difference and I expected people to defend them as "not being that bad" nope you fuckers find new and innovative ways to drop the limbo bar lower, some of you reek so badly of "Id pass the patriot act 2.0 if I thought It meant id see 2 less brown people"

 

[Wicky Wicky WoW]

With the talk of that time we rounded up the Japanese I think important background context is needed (thank you @HTTP Error 404 for your insightful post).
When talking about the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany the question is always asked, what went so wrong to cause such horrifying genocidal regimes to take power. The hell on earth that was WW1, the weimar Republic and all its ills in germany, the loss of substantial amounts of territory on Germany and Russia, the Russian civil war. Those events paint an apocalyptic picture which resulted in Hitler and Stalin.
Japan on the other hand was a different story. Starting at the Meiji restoration Japan went from a backwards feudal shit hole stuck in the dark ages to an industrialized nation in the span of a few short generations. They were not colonized and left all the technology, industry, and institutions. They actively studied the West and successfully integrated the workings of a modern society into their own. Japan joined WW1 for the purpose of plundering and taking German holdings in Asia, which that sort of thing was common for lesser powers in the great war. The key difference? Japan completely dodged the living nightmare of the great war in the trenches and actually came out of the war with what they wanted. Objectively leading up to the collapse of the civilian government into a fanatical militarist junta Japan was riding high. It honestly seems like that Japan had for no reason at all went completely insane and proceeded to try to take over the entirety of Asia. What ensued on the occupied people's was in the short reign of the Japanese was constant atrocities, far worse than what European colonial empires had done.
What's notable was the sheer fanaticism from the Japanese, iirc leading up the pearl harbor the garrison at Hawaii was more concerned with Japanese saboteurs. The idea of the kamikaze pilots doing literal suicide attacks because they were ordered is horrifying when you get down to it, compared to Muslim jihadi suicide bombers the entire region there has been in turmoil for a century and there is the promise of Paradise in the afterlife for doing it, the gooks did it because they were told.
I don't think the mostly first and second generation Japanese really could be trusted.

Also a side note Asians in the United states had faced a great deal of discrimination, for the Japanese this culminated into rounding them up into camps. Despite this the American Asian demographic is doing perfectly fine intergenerationally. It goes to show that it's the character of a people which determines how they perform in society.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

If anybody's to blame for USAID's death, it's Obama. His administration is the one who replaced the competent people running it with perma-freshmen activists, amoral sycophants, and Hillary fucking Clinton. USAID went from trying to get clean drinking water to the Third World, to turning into an ugly propaganda machine of the worst kind.

This is the kind of midwit take that I cannot stand. You cannot fix the Third World. It is not worth dumping money into. The reason people of X shit hole country have no water has nothing to do with not having money for it. It's because they have corrupt shit hole politicians who are hoarding it for themselves and we have no interest or business in going there and killing them. You cannot fix the Third World because the governments of there are so entrenched with gangs and militia who would require a full governmental restructuring. Which would then be met with resistance by half the country because they're morons. There is a reason Africa is still a shit hole in modern day. The British tried for decades to turn the brown shit holes of the world into something productive and they were met with violent resistance and the time is looked back on with scorn and screams of "Imperialism!!!". Piss off. These people can't be fixed.

You cannot throw money at the Third World to fix it and that is what every midwit and young liberal fails to understand. You can repost all you want about stopping Joseph Kony but here he is today, still raping little girls in his militia hut of fun. If you think the purpose of USAID was ever to help these people, you're clinically retarded and need to be mentally examined. It was solely to funnel money to corrupt warlords to syphon resources and get them to do things we want them to do. It has nothing to do with feeding the hungry or giving water to the thirsty. The money for Ugandan children to get abortions never paid for a single abortion. Rather it all went into the pockets of some diamond mine mogul. The Third World is broken for a reason. It can't be fixed. They don't want it to be fixed. And you shouldn't try.

 

[Niggergante]

Any sufficiently sloppified AI tech is indistinguishable from Indians being paid to post online.

It's because they're all artificially intelligent.

 

[The best and greatest]

So the funny gotcha I thought would cute was that like 1/3rd of the photos are just Nazi Concentration camps and the "gotcha" was supposed to be the fact you cant tell the difference and I expected people to defend them as "not being that bad" nope you fuckers find new and innovative ways to drop the limbo bar lower, some of you reek so badly of "Id pass the patriot act 2.0 if I thought It meant id see 2 less brown people"

What I had to say had nothing to do with any pictures anyone posted so it wouldn't have been a very good 'gotcha' anyway.

I think we can draw fair distinctions between the concentration camps in the US that were temporary and ultimately to everyone's benefit and the one's in Europe where they worked people to death

 

[MrJokerRager]

This leaves folks over 65 doing side jobs and still having to earn an income even in retirement years, it's not all rainbows and unicorns either side of the fence.

Medicare itself iirc is made of 4 parts.

Part D is the drug shiettt.

Part C is the most confusing one. Basically pay a private health insurance company for extra perks in addition to the other parts.

And pretty much Ben Shapiro's dream to see old people working working past 67ish, frees up young people to die in the sandpit.

 

[Jace on ice]

Does Elon seriously think the progressive left will welcome him back? Reddit and lefty Twitter think he's on par with Hitler.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Then good luck getting to the ER next time you have a medical emergency when the hospital closes due to medicaid cuts

Based as fuck.

Less Poors is good.

All that money needs to be send overseas on gay trannies in Uganda, according to the Democrats.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

So the funny gotcha I thought would cute was that like 1/3rd of the photos are just Nazi Concentration camps and the "gotcha" was supposed to be the fact you cant tell the difference and I expected people to defend them as "not being that bad" nope you fuckers find new and innovative ways to drop the limbo bar lower, some of you reek so badly of "Id pass the patriot act 2.0 if I thought It meant id see 2 less brown people"

The mexicans and chinese should be rounded up and kicked off into the Pacific on a barge.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Meanwhile Elon is promising to support Massie. I feel like Massie is going to be the prize that both are going for

 

[>IMPLYING]

I genuinely wonder who would vote for an Elon Musk party.

Libertarians, Massie supporters and Indians.

 

[tehpope]

Yes. It was absolutely acceptable. Why? The Niihau incident.

Tl;dr: A Japanese soldier crash landed in Hawaii after Pearl Harbor and was able to effortlessly convince the Japanese immigrants on the island to turn traitor to the US. It was determined that there were enough Japanese American Immigrants that held FIERCE loyalty to the Japanese Emperor and Japanese Government that they would have absolutely, 100%, would have went full on sperglord on us, committing sabotage, suicide bombings, and spying on us 24x7. Supposedly Japan had already set plans in motion for this very situation but we're not allowed to talk about that as Japanese Americans are official victims and thus they can only ever be suffering innocent golden children wot never do nuffin' wrong and the US Government that put them into camps are only allowed to be comically evil supervillain nazi-analogues.

Was it the right move? Ask me again when we're in the midst of another world war and we need to find out if we should be oh, say, putting all the Jeets or Islamists into camps. (Hint: Yes, we absolutely should and absolutely will and no amount of crying white women will stop it.)

BTW, the camps were the nice option. In earlier eras of world history, they would have just been forced out of the country by gunpoint.

None of the major axis or allies countries during WWII had clean hands. We only think the UK and US were the heckin wholesome good boys because they were on the winning side and got to write history.

 

[Back me up!]

I genuinely wonder who would vote for an Elon Musk party.

People dump enough to follow these retards

 

[tehpope]

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Elon talking shit

Seriously, why do people give a rats ass about what Steve Bannon has to think? He's not part of the admin this time around. He's a private citizen speculating and saying what he thinks the admin should do.

People dump enough to follow these retards

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What about Vivek?

 

[namelesstacotruck]

The problem is Massie is Kentucky. They have a republican government and a Dem Governor. That tells me they are cucks who think there is such a thing as both sides and balance. Also the strongest narratives against Massie are not being used by Trump. Trump is calling out he is blocking stuff, but not how he voted for Biden's agenda, he needs to hammer and be razor focused on how Massie empowered the Biden agenda and helps Dems over and over again. Thats not happening. He is making it about how Massie stood up to him, and that will resonate in a state with a Republican legislature and a Dem governor. All that said, its a house race, and I am a lazy fuck and didnt look up the make up of Massie's district. Given he is a libtard, I am guessing blood red.

 

[inetsone]

I genuinely wonder who would vote for an Elon Musk party.

Vivek Ramaswamy

Does Elon seriously think the progressive left will welcome him back? Reddit and lefty Twitter think he's on par with Hitler.

See that's what I don't get. It totes makes sense why people voted for or supported Don, for a bunch of reasons. But even hardcore MAGA didn't seem to trust Musk all the way. They might carry some water for him but I never saw any simping. I also assume most big Musk bros are either paid or fake or so far up the ass up the (bullshit) part of the VC tech industry.

Isn't Vivek running in Ohio tho? Like wtf is that about? He is so transparently an actor and a slime ball, probably also on the pay of the DoD or similar. Another fake ass techbro with a fake ass backstory. Who's voting for this guy?

I think Musk knows the left won't take him back but that it won't matter in the end. That's why he's pumping the "uniparty" despite being as deep state as it gets. Like I said with a post-American party, he's prepping out for when we give up the pretense of democracy and go all in on the police state.

 

[mindlessobserver]

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Elon talking shit

Elon is such a autistic retard its unreal.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

You cannot fix the Third World. It is not worth dumping money into.

You can fix the third world......by teaching them how to use resources more efficiently. Dumping money and food at their table makes them lazy and incapable of making the necessary changes to lift themselves up out of poverty. Someone needs to teach them better ways of farming, designing city infrastructure, and how to allocate money and resources. If you just dump endless amount of gibs at their feet, they'll never learn those things, they'll just become lazy freeloading assholes who will never learn and who will always be dependent on someone else.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

You can fix the third world......by teaching them how to use resources more efficiently.

We've been trying for over 200 years now. At some point you're going to have to accept that there might be something to that whole IQ thing.

 

[Breadbassket]

So the funny gotcha I thought would cute was that like 1/3rd of the photos are just Nazi Concentration camps and the "gotcha" was supposed to be the fact you cant tell the difference and I expected people to defend them as "not being that bad" nope you fuckers find new and innovative ways to drop the limbo bar lower, some of you reek so badly of "Id pass the patriot act 2.0 if I thought It meant id see 2 less brown people"

Comparing the Japanese American internment camps to concentration camps is an insult to the persecuted and oppressed. Within them there were 5,981 live births and only 1,862 deaths. More American soldiers died during the Bataan death march and Japanese prisoner of war camps then the interned did.

Some more photos from the camps:






Truly a place filled with nothing but suffering. To an extent the internment camps were a mistake because while a lot of the mainland Japanese residing in the United States were sent to them, the ones in Hawaii which had a more significant ethnic population was generally ignored (even though FDR was against such a decisions) for pragmatic economic reasons. Besides the Niihau incident which was previously listed, there was also the disastrous loyalty questionnaire given to the interned which didn't help matters. The seemingly worst aspect of the camps is that property was confiscated or stolen from those residing in them which while is something understandable to be upset about, the claimed terrible treatment of interned Japanese Americans is overblown.

It was World War 2, if the United States wanted to make death camps and systemically annihilate or exterminate a people it very easily could've done so.