US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[Onepumpplumpchump]

The big issue with this "ceasefire" is its never going to be an actual ceasefire it would require getting getting both Isreal and Iran to the table and they both have a blood hatred of eachother and want to see eachother burn. If you got them to the negotiations table it would turn into a screaming match which we've seen before at UN meetings.

 

[J.R. "Bob" Dobbs]

A couple of corrections

4. Trump’s deadline goes into effect and Iran shoots another barrage.

That barrage was fired before the deadline, and arrived in Israel after at around 12:30 EST (lol)

9. Israel strikes a minor site and turns its planes around

According to Trump in that CSPAN video we all just saw:
"Israel - as soon as we made the deal, they came out and dropped a load of bombs the likes of which I'd never seen before"

So many being hyperbolic because he was obviously pissed, or maybe they did indeed drop more than they're letting on.

 

[W@rui]

Trump says Israel and Iran "don’t know what the fuck they're doing."

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Trump's frustration probably illustrates everyone's frustration with Israel and Iran.

 

[Nottafed]

Never heard Trump Drop the F bomb before.

Remember he used to tell the story from Natural Born Killers in 2015? 'Once upon a time, a woman was picking up firewood. She came upon a poisonous snake frozen in the snow. She took the snake home and nursed it back to health. One day the snake bit her on the cheek. As she lay dying, she asked the snake, "Why have you done this to me?" And the snake answered, "Look, bitch, you knew I was a snake."

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Trump's frustration probably illustrates everyone's frustration with Israel and Iran.

The question is if he will still step in for Israel or finally leave them to deal with their own problems.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

That barrage was fired before the deadline, and arrived in Israel after at around 12:30 EST (lol)

Nope, I was watching live. That barrage was fired 9 minutes after the deadline. BMs take 5-10 minutes to travel from Iran to Israel, what you're saying is impossible

"Israel - as soon as we made the deal, they came out and dropped a load of bombs the likes of which I'd never seen before"

He's referring to the heavy bombardment of Tehran right before the ceasefire started for the Israelis

 

[Onepumpplumpchump]

The question is if he will still step in for Israel or finally leave them to deal with their own problems.

We all know the answer to that, but if Isreal keeps pissing off Trump he might just say fuck it and cut off weapons.

 

[DrakosBiz]

Trump says Israel and Iran "don’t know what the fuck they're doing."

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I think what I find intriguing is how little politicians in the United States use swears. It hits alot harder when they do because you are used to them keeping mostly everything PG.

 

[0713]

Donald-kun said the F word. He really is mad!

Darn!

 

[Neil McCauley]

At this point, he is trying to make peace and criticizing escalation from both sides. I don’t see how anyone in the world can disagree with Trump right now.

 

[mlanguishi]

I think what I find intriguing is how little politicians in the United States use swears. It hits alot harder when they due because you are used to them keeping mostly everything PG.

Goes back to Teddy Roosevelt with: "speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far".

 

[babyDunk]

"Iranian state TV says a “victory celebration” will be held today at 6:00 PM in Tehran’s Enqelab \(Revolution\) Square\."

Over???

 

[Onepumpplumpchump]

Seems like Iran is throwing a party in an hour boys I think its over lol

 

[SoylentSippin]

Trump says Israel and Iran "don’t know what the fuck they're doing."

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You can see the genuine annoyance of him out of all people being outconned

 

[browserbowser]

Iran already confirmed that they did retard.

now they might break the cease fire(either of the assholes) but that is a separate issue.

Stop seething, it almost sounds like you WANT the war now that drumpf is pulling out
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Trump mad

(source)

Yeah, I'm thinking:

My theory thus far is that Trump is attempting to maneuver through this the way he did with the other flare-up instances in the M.E. not realizing the above context I've pointed out. Israel isn't going to take 'no' for an answer on this one, Iran is too important and this opportunity too fleeting. Much like with the Oct 7th attacks and using that as an opportunity for the destruction/depopulation of Gaza.

is confirmed by this, he's hoping to get a peace deal/negotiation, sweep all talk of regime change and whatever else under the rug, and get back to not releasing the Epstein files. He's got other shit to deal with and having a foreverwar start within the first eight months of his presidency would be an unthinkable skidmark of the magnitude that he's willing to tell Israel to some extent to fuck off.

Remains to be seen if Israel does or does not have enough leverage to spin this out into the regime change war they want. This makes it seem like they might not but given things have gotten this far already it's a crapshoot.

Edit: Seems like Israel might not give a shit - https://archive.is/nLuCz

"All planes will turn around and head home, while doing a friendly 'Plane Wave' to Iran. Nobody will be hurt, the Ceasefire is in effect!" Trump said in a post on Truth Social.
Trump had earlier accused both Israel and Iran of violating the ceasefire, while expressing particular frustration with Israel which had announced major new strikes on Tehran.
"Israel. Do not drop those bombs. If you do it it is a major violation. Bring your pilots home, now!" Trump wrote on Truth Social shortly after he left the White House for a trip to a NATO summit in The Hague.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Now it's time for the negotiating table, going to be interesting

 

[J.R. "Bob" Dobbs]

Nope, I was watching live. That barrage was fired 9 minutes after the deadline.

According to the Iranians, minutes before the ceasefire they launched 12 missiles in 6 waves, meant to be symbolic?

Either side is going to lie anyway, and the ceasefire allowing Israel 12 hours to drop bombs and preventing Iran from responding might be the the single most jewish parlay I've ever seen but we'll see how it plays out.

 

[Endlosung]

Outside of this hugbox, the site is much more liberal. This subforum is a literal containment zone for you guys.

You guys really should trust someone who has been here for longer than almost anyone on this shit.

"guys 4chan has always been liberal guys it's the 2016 trump chuds invasion who turned it nazi"

 

[mlanguishi]

It's a miracle how this guy shows up to shit all over Trump when this started, and brought like 10 others. 20 pages of how Trump is starting WW3.

Now he's back right when it's ending (hopefully) and just shitposting.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

According to the Iranians, minutes before the ceasefire they launched 12 missiles in 6 waves, meant to be symbolic?

Either side is going to lie anyway, and the ceasefire allowing Israel 12 hours to drop bombs and preventing Iran from responding might be the the single most jewish parlay I've ever seen but we'll see how it plays out.

As long as it keeps us from getting involved, I don't really give a fuck what the Iranians and Israelis do to each other