US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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I had to double-check that Barron Trump account. It's not actually him, but it is verified. What a stupid fucking platform.
Probably tagged with "Parody Account"? Idk why even THAT's allowed, but even putting all of that aside, idt it should be allowed to "ironically" impersonate the President's son just so you can run an epic heckin right wing meme account.
 
Here's my take: WW3 concern is besides the point. There should not have even been a single bomb sent there.

How much did that bombing run cost? Could we not have pulled another option, like pulling some guys from the "Tracking edgy memes" division to run a hack ontheir shit? Or, much better, get our "allies" to do this instead? Like the one that we have given billions to in weapons and aid, for this exact reason?

Why do we need to wipe out the deficit advantage we got from DOGE on more bombs for the third world? That's the part I am stuck on, especially the killing of jobcorp. I knew people personally that were going into jobcorp for welding. The program sounded bad with a 30% graduation rate, but considering that those graduates were going into highly relevant jobs their employment rate was actually better than any college you could think of. 100,000 a student? You take the taxation on a journeyman welder for ten years, that program has already paid for itself even with dead weight. But it had problems. Has trump replaced that program with something else that works better? Nope, more money to bomb middle east sorry.

People wanted two things from his presidency: Fix the economy and get out of bullshit wars. The former he has put in the tariff protections and removed the illegal labor clogging the field, but hasn't delivered on any form of incentive or training to kickstart it. Now he just has the latter, but is putting it all in Jeopardy by joining in on Iran.

The middle east war was barely held aloft vack in the 2000's, but after the reveal of no WMD's and watching the effort put there crumple like wet cardboard the second we leave has made it overwhelmingly unpopular. This is probably the most pro-trump place I visit, and even here I see people saying they would shoot their commander before the enemy. Palestine was so unpopular you had muslims and other shitskins violating programming and voting for trump (or at least not for dems) in droves, and now he wants to shoot himself in the leg like this?
 
There is 20 years worth of vets in the reserve system. Those would be called up first and would likely be enough. It'd be political suicide of course.
You think I'm picking up a rifle for this bullshit? I would be more than happy to kill whoever comes to my door to pick me up for failure to muster.

I already fought for Israel once and only saw things in my own country get worse.

Attacks on all non civilians in the US would be justified if they ever attempted to muster the IRR to fight another jewish war that nobody but the jewish cock holsters in Washington want.
 
I have been studying the situation a bit before commenting majorly on it, mostly because Im not a dopamine addicted idiot that is excited to run here to throw the "FUCK YOU, MAGATARDS, I WAS RIGHT" (you know who you are). This is a serious situation that needs to be approached with a "grand scheme" perspective. Anyway...



Anyone blaming Trump is missing the whole point of the issue, same goes to anyone throwing the "fell for it" or "This wouldnt have happened under Kamala". First off, it should be made very very much clear that even his biggest supporters are disagreeing heavily over this and thats very important to recognize. Second off, the war machine owns both the democrats and republicans so to blame one side over the other is EXACTLY what they want you to do because, by giving in to tribalism, you dont focus on the stuff that matters.

This is something that has been going on before Trump, Biden, Obama and even Bush, all orchestrated by people who dont give a shit about our political scene, only their own.

A serious issue with America has always been bowing down to foreign interests, especially Israel's and this moment really really demonstrates shamelessly the influence they have when Trump straight up breaks a shit load of promises in his 6 months. "OMG, a nuke" has been always the nation equivalent of "he's had a gun!" and America folded independently of which side was running the show, everytime.

Dont focus on Trump, focus on the board and who is throwing money in exchange for power and boots on the ground.

Ah yes, before someone thinks that Im defending Trump, Im absolutely fucking not, he just disappointed a lot of conservatives who now need to hear tribalistic democrats throwing the usual "Wouldnt have happened if this or that" yadayadayada (who I already said are ignoring the real issue and are just using the situation to get some dopamine). I worry what this will bring to his remaining campaign but respect is hard to earn and very easy to lose and I doubt even his supporters are going to forget he went back on his word. That isnt to say its completely over for him but this has been a very bad start, especially in these times where all we want is to stop getting involved in other nations and fix our damn own. In either case, his enemies just got a LOT of ammo against him and thats entirely on him and his supporters have every right to be pissed at him.

I just want America to be fixed but it seems that the *insert title of Karl Marx's second best seller book, you know the one* is one that needs to be actually asked and addressed for god damn real before its too late.

Either way...

This meme summarizes the situation pretty damn well.

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Anyone not blinded by tribalism knows this to be true.

Edit: Typos
 
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I think its pretty clear that it's de-escalating now. The Trump admin has repeatably stated the strike was only to crush the Iranian nuclear weapons program. Even going as far as to state that the goal was not regime change.

other than saber -rattling the Iranians have not done much in response, nor have their proxies. I think it likely that they will make a show out of a response by striking something, but not a target that would draw out further US attacks.

If you recall they did this after Trump killed Soleimani. they struck a US base but targeted only hangers and old buildings along with projecting their attack hours before to minimize US causalities.

this type of response allows the Iranian government to save face, while also demonstrating that they want to take a off-ramp from further escalation.
This would be the best outcome and would save Trump's admin. I pray this is what will go down and Iran will just back down like bitches. Hopefully we just exit the conflict now.
 
everybody seems to still know damn well that US hegemony is the only option for world stability and as such the US will be able to do whatever the fuck it wants
That won't be happening.

Also, the history & interests of the US are just as crooked as many others, if not more. Your ideal world-police will always be this corrupt force with its own selfish interests, as it has been evidenced with previous wars.
 
Security shots aren't exactly legal - I hope security guard bro is okay but that was ill advised.
Too little info to go on still, though even pinned under a vehicle they're still a threat if they can still hold a gun.

Given the guard got shot in the leg, there's reason enough.
 
See it's this type of statement that makes people skeptical that America's involvement in the conflict has peaked and now the US military will de-escalate. I still am not convinced that US ground troops will be committed but anyone could watch that video and know that it looks really fuckin bad and is a total sweep job from Janny Vancy. This optically really makes Trump look like a chump who was punked out by Bibi, even if that's not what really happened. Its a bad look overall. I'm still optimistic though.
 
You think I'm picking up a rifle for this bullshit? I would be more than happy to kill whoever comes to my door to pick me up for failure to muster.

I already fought for Israel once and only saw things in my own country get worse.

Attacks on all non civilians in the US would be justified if they ever attempted to muster the IRR to fight another jewish war that nobody but the jewish cock holsters in Washington want.
well, that's good because its not going to happen.
 
Let's wait a month before doomposting. You all will look downright foolish if a year passes and we still aren't actually in war with Iran. If boots aren't on the ground in 2 weeks, this doomposting will look retarded.
 
I'm not a Zionist! I have relationships with Americans... and sex with Israelis!
- Well I got news for you...
 
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