💬 Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Kiislova]

Also she ballooned out and must've gained over 10 kg in the past two years.

Pooners don't seem to understand that T will give you gains, regardless if you exercise or not. If they don't hit the gym as they hit the needle, they will get the standard ballooned face (with ballooned body) pooner.

Seriously, fuck this timeline

Where do you find that place? It is only missing a few furries for extra dysfunction.

 

[ProphylacticMagician]

I watched one of my close childhood friends get out of highschool, never get a job, become hopelessly addicted to twitter to the point where he’ll complain about it every chance he can and still use it religiously, troon out, develop a severe case of Trump derangement syndrome despite not being American (he also doesn’t know fuck all about his own country’s politics,) and generally not mature a smidge. And it was all ‘tism and enabling parents that got him there.

In my heart of hearts I have a glimmer of hope for him, because at least around our other friends he is still being referred to as a man by his birth name. But I also know the reality that anything I could say would fall on deaf ears, and have been distancing myself from him and the people that enable him. Watching someone I confided in and spent a countless amount of time with lose himself, and knowing if I tried to help I’d be seen as some kind of villain has just left a pit in my stomach.

 

[Angry New Ager]

Where do you find that place? It is only missing a few furries for extra dysfunction.

I live on the West Coast, and this vet practice is in one of the most retarded, troon-infested, willfully self-destructing, "progressive" cities in the US. I moved over an hour away in 2021, but have kept using them because nobody at the time was taking new clients due to Covid insanity (lots of vet practices here lost a significant amount of staff in 2020, and until late 2023-early '24 had a hard time replacing them).

But mainly, the vet I usually see is absolutely fantastic, we work together really well, and trying to replace her after 20 years, and establish a rapport with somebody else? Fuck me. It isn't happening until a crisis makes it happen, and the current People of Gender infestation is not that crisis—not at this point.

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Animal welfare organizations here are now full of genderspecials, pooners, and the occasional young troon; my first encounters with enbycritters and pooners were 10 years ago, while cleaning cages at a shelter, and now they're all over the place. That extends to vet practices because there's a lot of movement back-and-forth between the two. Because, let's be real, most people who choose to work or volunteer caring for companion animals are female, empathetic and emotionally sensitive, and at least a little bit of a misfit. They've got a strong drive to nurture, but for a lot of them it's diverted mostly or entirely onto animals because they've got unaddressed issues with humans, usually a father wound, of varying degrees of severity.

And all that empathy, emotional sensitivity, drive to nurture, desire to help the helpless, and that unhealed father wound of course drives them into lefty politics.

They're not bad people. They really do want a just world, where everybody gets what they need and is treated fairly. But, being female, with a wounded relationship to the father (in an archetypal sense, as well as actual men) they are, more often than not, emotionally driven, subject to groupthink, reflexively pushing back against anything that smacks of "patriarchy," and having all of that empathy and sensitivity manipulated toward bad ends. And the trans issue is one of those bad ends.

I'd probably have to drive even further, into a deep-red county, to find a practice that isn't completely infested by the gender crowd, but even that's no guarantee. So I'm just going to keep on being pleasant and polite, while avoiding the entire gender issue in conversation. And, because I'm an oldfag, I know that eventually the tide will turn. The trans shit is so pathological, so divorced from reality, and so destructive of both individuals and society, it has to.

Oh! And as for furries, I almost never see them doing actual work with animals (or at least none of the people I've worked with have been out as furries), and occasionally I even hit an unexpected vein of furry-hate in animal welfare circles. And I think that's because being a furry, in itself, has nothing to do with love for and a desire to nurture actual animals, but is a paraphilia—just as autogynephiles get off on imaging themselves as a woman, furries do the same thing, only imagining themselves as an anthropomorphized animal.

Yes, furries may have pets, and love and care for them, but their desire to be a blue wolf, or a pink hippo with giant tits, or some weird hybrid creature, is a pornified version of the anthropomorphized cartoon animals they watched as kids. The focus is not actual animals (unless you get into zoos, which overlap with furries, but that's another issue, and I've tl;dr'ed enough already).

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I wish I can shake these girls and get it through to them that they can do whatever they want as a female. They can wear male clothes, get into relationship with women, be GNC, etc etc as a female. They don't have to chase the illusion of being male, they don't need anyone's permission to do what they truly want to do as the woman they already are.

Seriously, we had this shit figured out in the '80s and '90s. Even in the '70s, gendered expectations had relaxed a lot.

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And then, in the 2000s, we had a massive onslaught of princess shit for little girls, plus moms were complaining about how slutty little girls' clothing had become (influenced by Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears). Princess, or Kinderwhore? For a few crazy years, those were the options. All of a sudden, everything for kids got rigidly gendered again, as if the entire span of time from 1970-2000 had never happened, but for girls it was either to be sexualized or live in a fairy tale (and many got hit by both).

The princess shit was everywhere, and infected adult women, too. Even the financial crash of 2008 couldn't kill it. Seemingly everything for girls and women was pink and sparkly. I was a tomboy, growing up in the '70s, and had a lot of latitude in how to dress and what to like, but had I grown up in the '00s, I would have been in hell. And I remember at the time thinking, "In 15-20 years, grunge, menswear, and tomboyism are going to be the big trends among teenagers and young women." And I wasn't wrong; I just didn't expect the medical-pharmaceutical complex to get involved.

And now the kids who were born and growing up during that time are adults, or close to it, and they're all trooning/pooning out. And I'm not even accounting for social media here.

 

[Fapcop]

Unfortunately my update does not come on a positive note. He has revealed to me that he has been growing long hair, painting nails, wearing skirts and thigh highs for a while now, something that completely took me by surprise, out of a seemingly very late teenage rebellion, "mother told me boys aren't supposed to do this so I'm doing it just cause".

Seemingly he does not consider the facts that he has basically no irl friends, stays home all day, lives off welfare and literally can't work are causing his self-esteem issues. But no, picking female characters in games and dressing as a poor parody of a woman is totally going to give "validation, excitement and energy". Where did everything go so wrong?

While it sucks to be him… Is it really a loss when a character like this chooses to self-isolate and self-sterilize?

a pink hippo with giant tits,

HEY! LEAVE MY FURSONA OUT OF THIS!

 

[Green Buttons]

I had a large friend group online who were very chill. They were a lot of fun to hang out with, I'd VC with them a lot and they helped me out with some life issues over the years. When a large influx of trannies came into our server however it caused a fat schism where people would get into debates about typical tranny ideology and other left-wing topics, and even though all of the tourists left eventually the damage stuck around which ended up driving a lot of the people I liked out. The owner turned into a creepy furry groomer, the temperament of some key members changed for the worse making them more contentious and faggoty, and the remainder either stopped talking there or trooned out, one in particular wants to undergo ten of thousands of dollars worth of cosmetic surgeries and carve a puss trench into themselves for some idiotic reason but of course the rest of the group just sychophants telling them how proud they are, etc. I don't talk there anymore, everytime I look into the general I see tranny seething and pretentious political dick stroking.

 

[Jean d'Arc]

A close friend got a they/them girlfriend and has since shaved his beard and changed his pronouns on discord to he/they. I don't get it, the girlfriend is probably the dumbest person I've ever met, I don't mean this as a diss, she just seems to not 'get it' a lot of the time, and my friend is a smart guy, but he's been a lot more sad lately. I'm trying to figure out the right method to nudge him away from this without seeming insensitive. If he were to fully troon out it would be a tragedy. I know that at his core he's a good person, but there's a lot pulling him down.

 

[Monolith]

First time I saw a guy I played MTG with in a year. As far as I can tell, he's done voice training 24/7 since I last saw him, and nothing else.

 

[Bojack Horsekin]

Update on my longtime friend I posted about before (can't believe it was over a year ago, time flies)

He joined a polycule with a fellow troon discord mod. Said troon has a husband (pooner) of nearly 20 years and another girlfriend, I'm guessing some other troon, and they live a state away. And now my friend — and his wife — are caught in the web.

He described it as "exploring ethical non-monogamic behavior," which makes me gag. He said he "tried telling [two oldest friends from college] about exploring concepts that aren’t the things society tells you are respectable but they don’t quite get it or want to hear about it." Yes, by all means, try explaining to the married and deeply Christian man with a family how you're slutting it up with another AGP and your wife is playing along. I'm sure you'll convince him in no time!

I asked my friend just what his wife thinks about all this. He gave a vague answer of "we check in with each other regularly" (which didn't answer my question) but that they "got off schedule through the holidays and her mother's medical emergency."

So you're telling me your MIL had a medical crisis and you put your wife through your "ethical non-monogamy" bullshit? idk how she hasn't filed for divorce, jfc.

That was a few months ago, I didn't expect to talk to him any more after that. But I did decide to be nice the other week and ask if he was going to our local Pridefest, I wanted to check it out this year. His response was that he'd just quit his hospital job because of "harassment." I almost said to pull up your big girl pants and deal with it but he went on and on about HR not honoring their zero tolerance policy, manager not making him feel safe, and my favorite: "Since I came out as trans my status I had as being a 'trusted and valued one of the guys' to my boss went down to 'nuisance that needs constant oversight.'"

He didn't go to Pride because he was afraid of "violence." The polycule drove up to visit and he invited me to meet them. I said I might be too busy with household stuff to go anywhere. This was true, but it was over soon enough and I went ahead to Pride. It was dull, too damn humid, and no violence or even protesters to be seen.

tl;dr oldest boyfriend who trooned out 3 years ago now unemployed, in polycule with some discord freaks, wife even more brainwashed. The jokes write themselves.

Slightly related, I couldn't find a thread on his discord group nor the writer it's formed around, Tilly Bridges. Please link me if it turns out this guy is a cult leader.

Edit: can't tell if this link is working, might be site issues

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Said troon has a husband (pooner)

But I did decide to be nice the other week and ask if he was going to our local Pridefest, I wanted to check it out this year.

I went ahead to Pride

You are in grave danger and you think you are fine and in control. You need to gird yourself up and guard your heart before it's too late.

What you have said in this post- referring to a woman as someone's "husband," humoring a bunch of degenerates, meeting up with them at Pride- is the spiritual equivalent of if you had told me that you walked down MLK Ave at 1 am with $3000 in your pockets wearing a tee that says "I am against self-defense."

 

[Metal Slime 20x6]

I couldn't find a thread on his discord group nor the writer it's formed around, Tilly Bridges. Please link me if it turns out this guy is a cult leader.

Oof, Tilly Bridges has one of my old friends in his clutches too. I don’t think there’s a dedicated thread for him but I’d definitely be interested to see what people could dig up! He wrote a book about the Matrix movies as trans allegories and has recently worked on some Star Trek comics. (Unrelatedly, I really really hate how troons have ruined Star Trek.)

 

[Idiot Sandwich the 3rd]

Tilly Bridges.

I had no idea who this guy was so I decided to google him and SWEET LORD WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THING?!

Spoiler: jumpscare warning

And this is not just one picture, he does this face for multiple photos.

Imagine being a woman, going to the bathroom and you see this guy staring at you like this

The wide open eyes and the AGP smirk freak me out

 

[Bojack Horsekin]

Oof, Tilly Bridges has one of my old friends in his clutches too. I don’t think there’s a dedicated thread for him but I’d definitely be interested to see what people could dig up! He wrote a book about the Matrix movies as trans allegories and has recently worked on some Star Trek comics. (Unrelatedly, I really really hate how troons have ruined Star Trek.)

My condolences. I believe the Matrix book is about Neo becoming Trinity, and I'm not sure how that makes sense. I don't remember a thing about the end of the trilogy though. And didn't even realize there was a 4th movie. First one was cool for its time, now it's old scifi troon slop. Let it go.

I had no idea who this guy was so I decided to google him and SWEET LORD WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THING?!

Spoiler: jumpscare warning

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And this is not just one picture, he does this face for multiple photos.

Imagine being a woman, going to the bathroom and you see this guy staring at you like this
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The wide open eyes and the AGP smirk freak me out

His face is so punchable. There's no way he's not a groomer. Have witnessed my friend and him lovebombing each other on bsky, it's hard to say how much goes on in discord.

 

[ScurvyRat]

I had no idea who this guy was so I decided to google him and SWEET LORD WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THING?!

Sanpaku eyes, every fucking time

The eyes of a psychopathic killer. These eyes want to gain power over you.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

He described it as "exploring ethical non-monogamic behavior," which makes me gag.

"Ethical non-monogamy" is a euphemism along the lines of using MAP instead of pedophile. It's an attempt to sanitize and legitimize behavior that should rightfully get you ostracized from society. Cheating is cheating. Cheating with your husband or wife's permission is either cucking or swinging, depending on if it's one or both of you who's doing the cheating. Idk if I'm the only one, but I don't see "marriages" that are anything short of a lifetime monogamous commitment as valid marriages. I don't understand why these people get married in the first place if their intention is to continue living as if they weren't married.

"Polyamory" is another troon behavior that nearly all of them seem to engage in (edit: it's also very common in cults, which makes sense since the whole thing is a cult). I guess hedonism and degeneracy breeds more hedonism and degeneracy, or something along those lines. Breaking just one taboo is never enough.

 

[Soso]

ethical non-monogamy

Every time I hear those words, I know the relationship is on life support, or they are sex addicts. I hate how if you speak against non-monogamy in some parts you get shamed and shouted down. All I know is if someone I loved suggested that to me, I would be horrified and heartbroken. It shouldn't be normal. Polyamorous relationships turn into a mess (unless you're a certain Shah from the 1800s), and consist of the most horrifying creatures involved.

 

[Metal Slime 20x6]

I had no idea who this guy was so I decided to google him and SWEET LORD WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THING?

I’ll see your sanpaku eyes and raise you a bikini pic.

Spoiler: lol so male-bodied

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I don't understand why these people get married in the first place if their intention is to continue living as if they weren't married.

Because shitting on societal norms and basic morality is part of the fetish for them.

And most people in the LGBTQ movement, if they're perfectly honest with you, will tell you that they hate the institution of marriage for merely existing.

 

[Bojack Horsekin]

"Ethical non-monogamy" is a euphemism along the lines of using MAP instead of pedophile. It's an attempt to sanitize and legitimize behavior that should rightfully get you ostracized from society. Cheating is cheating. Cheating with your husband or wife's permission is either cucking or swinging, depending on if it's one or both of you who's doing the cheating. Idk if I'm the only one, but I don't see "marriages" that are anything short of a lifetime monogamous commitment as valid marriages. I don't understand why these people get married in the first place if their intention is to continue living as if they weren't married.

"Polyamory" is another troon behavior that nearly all of them seem to engage in (edit: it's also very common in cults, which makes sense since the whole thing is a cult). I guess hedonism and degeneracy breeds more hedonism and degeneracy, or something along those lines. Breaking just one taboo is never enough.

You're so right about the MAP analogy. No wonder it makes me feel gross.

Every time I hear those words, I know the relationship is on life support, or they are sex addicts. I hate how if you speak against non-monogamy in some parts you get shamed and shouted down. All I know is if someone I loved suggested that to me, I would be horrified and heartbroken. It shouldn't be normal. Polyamorous relationships turn into a mess (unless you're a certain Shah from the 1800s), and consist of the most horrifying creatures involved.

My high school best friend is another one. She didn't poon out (yet, she calls herself an enby) but she separated from her husband because she wanted to be polyamorous (read: sleep around) and he didn't. She deserves a thread of her own except she rarely posts online except her godawful porn vids, seriously I'm so upset I discovered this about her

Because shitting on societal norms and basic morality is part of the fetish for them.

And most people in the LGBTQ movement, if they're perfectly honest with you, will tell you that they hate the institution of marriage for merely existing.

It's frustrating because I'm LGB#droptheT and I don't feel the need to be subversive in every aspect of my life. But I can't speak out about this or I'm a fascist. I'm sure there are plenty of us out there, we're just drowned out by the hyper-political sex weirdos because we're normal people who want to be left in peace.

 

[Idiot Sandwich the 3rd]

I’ll see your sanpaku eyes and raise you a bikini pic.

Spoiler: lol so male-bodied

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I wanted to reply to this by saying "im not opening this spoiler" because I knew by its description it would be disgusting but unfortunately I had to learn the hard way that spoilered images are shown when replying to it.


Dude, imagine being a troon trying to become a "muscle mommy" only for your body to emphasize your maleness and make you even more brick shapped. Reality just gave him the middle finger

 

[cave dwelling faggot]

I have a conundrum
A closeted tranny friend who thinks I don't know he's a tranny, and has sent me a picture of himself in an outfit that is right on the edge of plausible deniability of dressing like a women. I can tell he's nervous about sending it to me. How can I tell him to quit that shit without unveiling my seething hatred for trannies? My current plan is to tell him that he looks terrible and to learn how to dress properly