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Should be a wild four years.

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This is just some food for thought, for the cost of not doing 1 Afghan war we could write off a half century of tax payer cost created by illegal immigration. I dont mean that to say "Durr look we could just ignore illegals if we dident spend so much" Im saying its wild how one issue can be categorized as "ruinous" to the country and the other can be considered a "necessary expense". If we are being honest with ourselves the fact that you could have 2x the immigration crisis cost over the same period of time (20 years) and still have trillions to play with is unfathomable to me.

These are both massively important issues that we need to address I just dont understand how we have so much bass in our voice for this issue but overseas wars that accomplish nothing are just part and parcel of being an American despite crippling us economically. Thats not an exaggeration we did not HAVE 8 trillion to spend on the Afghanistan war but we spent it anyway. So the idea we turn around and go "The Mexicans are bleeding us dry" while spending hundreds of billions on a military that keeps losing makes us look not just inept but stupid. Both these issues need to be dealt with it just might be easier to get our house in order if our left hand was not to busy in the middle east with the right in south east asia.

Ill accept namecalling and questioning of my parentage but you must PLEASE provide a somewhat logical rebutal and not, "Thats gay and your gay for thinking it and super gay for saying it" lets take that as a given and try and engage with arguments and not make autists on the internet cry.
While I'm generally not a fan of stupid wars overseas (most of them nowadays), aside from costing money it doesn't really affect me. Having to deal with retarded pajeets everytime I do something tech related, seeing them milling about like retards and ogling 14 year old girls in public parks, and smelling them on airplanes is something visceral and in your face. Having a bunch of ESL student ruin your local school feels personal. Having all these mud people do a worse job for less pay both guts American wages and destroys the quality of important services. Wars look bad on a spreadsheet, immigration can turn your whole life to shit if you can't get away from it. It makes perfect sense that people are more incensed about paying more money to make their own lives shittier.
 
Ill accept namecalling and questioning of my parentage but you must PLEASE provide a somewhat logical rebutal and not, "Thats gay and your gay for thinking it and super gay for saying it" lets take that as a given and try and engage with arguments and not make autists on the internet cry.
My rebuttle is that the expenses, losses and consequences of the Afghanistan war happened over there, to the soldiers that thought it'd be a good idea to go sign up and play peacekeeper for goat fuckers. It wasn't good. But it was contained. A lot of tax money was burned, but it was burned on a military that was going to burn most of that just to exist anyway. Procurement was still going to buy retarded shit based on pure hypotheticals if they had no war to base their needs off, and feed the MiC regardless. The casualties are bad, but fall entirely on the fact that it was a shit mission in the first place, occupying without intent to force change. America babied the sandbox, and payed the price in blood.

Meanwhile, the immigration disaster is directly affecting American people, in their streets and their homes. Illlegals have degraded the quality of life for everyone, destroyed employment opportunities, encouraged the acceptance of criminal and degenerate behavior, and their refusal to assimilate and participate in the system forces it to dumb itself down for them. The price for this is far beyond the financial element though, its straight up torn apart community, and government. There's so many of these fucks now that elected officials are campaigning, and succeeding on campaigning, on the basis of supporting criminals to have things you explicitly are not allowed to have as a citizen. And we've seen how apocalyptic the fracturing of trust that comes from that is.

Foreign wars kill volunteers and churn the MiC, Illegal immigration destroys everyones community and ability to govern. To try and boil them down to mere digits is on the same level of accuracy as saying nobody would be poor if we just raised the minimum wage to $50/hr.
 
I love the insinuation that illegal labor has "blood on its hands".
Oh man I didn't make that connection.
Yeah this really makes it seem like rampant illegal immigration and hiring in the service industry is a really bad thing that should be stopped, with the workers sent back to their home countries and the bloody handed employers should get the gallows...
Hhhhuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhh makes you think
 
Man I really hope America has some version of our illegal immigrant fines. Normally around £10-20k per worker, or a fucking million dollars in this case, and possibly going up to like 50k per worker if it's something as blatant and piss taking as an entire fucking warehouse of them.
Have you seen in Norhern Ireland they are kicking off. Tried to burn down the immigrant housing. one of them (immigrant) raped a kid
 
That dude on AP brought up the Mexican-American War. Dude, I know how you feel, but these people don't understand that Spanish Mexico was so shit, places like Texas didn't want to belong to it. They also fail to understand we marched all the way to Mexico City and signed a treaty giving us land.

They're deceptive enough to say this land was (Spanish)-Mexico, but then fail to acknowledge there were many smaller tribes and societies and not one unified people. Don't talk history, facts, or logic at these people; all they know is Abuela's Tamales and fat latina asses.
 
We never lost in Afganastan. We left. We also wiped out Saddam's regime and installed a puppet government. We won Iraq from a military perspective. We don't lose wars. You're a faggot. You're a faggot for bringing this up when illigeals are invading our country and the military are being used to deal with them for good for once.
The military is protecting federal property not deporting illegals, thats still ICE. Small technicality but important

You ever been in a fight with someone at "left" in the middle of it while they keep your pants and lunch money? That sound like winning?

We "won" Iraq like we "won" in Libya, by taking out the leader and creating a black hole of chaos and poverty. Thats like setting a tree on fire and saying you "beat" nature, sure boss but why are you fucking with it in the first place?

Id like to think the most powerful country that ever was could deal with multiple issues at once, but nah more realistically I use the war expenditure to highlight that they dont give a fuck about us and that the illegal immigration is a drop in the bucket issue compared to some of the bullshit our government is getting away with.

All the kings horse and men cant get 10 million people out of the country in any time frame short of a decade and that would require the willpower and the support of the whole nation, yea, good luck with that. 9.5 million jews in Europe in 1939, Hitler only got 6 million with the WHOLE state working towards that effort and we are talking about removing them from our economic labor pool at our own expense, how long you think that will be popular in congress? Its all smoke an mirrors my friend, Im glad your enjoying this particular circus.
 
X user @reddit_lies posted a google trends for people searching remittance tax in Spanish 2 weeks ago, in response to a post about how the money is more than likely being funneled into cartels. This explosion in search results lines up with the first mentions of increasing taxes on remittances if I'm not mistaken, which would explain the sudden interest. Possible explanation for Mexico's strong reaction to the unfolding events? Apparently US remittances make up 5% of Mexico's GDP, which would be quite a hit to them.

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This one time I had to leave the Land of the Big PX and go to faggot-ass Europe. Saw Filthy Gypsy A fighting Filthy Gypsy B in the middle of the street. Filthy Gypsies C-F were going through the crowd lifting the wallets of the slack-jawed faggots watching the "fight".

Just sayin'.
 
I gotta commend the small group of people with the Trump flag and the megaphone giving these retards a hard time, but I'm kinda disappointed there aren't more conservatives out there to counter protest these riots. Unfortunately most conservatives have jobs :(
 
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