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I heard somewhere that most of Biden's signings were done with autopen. Not just pardons, everything.

Does that mean somewhere around 80% of Biden's presidency is invalid?
he had obvious mental competency issues for at least half his presidency. we watched him go behind the podium and struggle to coherently speak / form sentences while his administration lied and said there was nothing wrong. it was clear as day that he wasnt able to be president but he was kept there for a reason. people, institutions, whatever, used his autopen signature to do whatever they wanted because he was too far gone. he wasnt our president and thats why we felt such a disconnect as a country because he was literally a wet mop.

the disconnect here is that while trump calls all this out nothing will ever actually be done about it because those same people who used bidens autopen still hold power today. people here love to pretend that trump isnt a puppet faggot himself but thats the way our world is now. maybe its too demoralizing to admit its a waste of time. maybe its for entertainment purposes. who knows.
 
All they need to do is to get Biden to announce that he did have those pardons signed under his authority and the entire case disappears. How much money do you think Biden would take to do so? We all know he takes bribes.


I think you are right. It will get squashed in the first day it hits the courts. But until then, the prosecutors have an excuse to investigate, collect evidence, announce what facts they have found to the public, submit charging documents to the court.

This will be a media circus that nobody can help rubbernecking.

As they say, sometimes the process is the punishment.

Win or lose, Trump wins.
This is where the fun begins. There is already 17 states conducting a shared investigation of the covid crimes. Is the evidence discovered allowed to be used by them? It's going to be a clusterfuck no matter the answer.

Then consider other countries may be interesting in using the evidence as well. Does that pardon protect from extradition for the same crimes if they effected other countries?
 
How would the president not remember signing something? Are you retarded?
Man literally has dementia and has had multiple on film instances of him forgetting shit that he shouldn't be forgetting. His not signing something and then being told that he did is not a hard thing to get away with. If you've interacted with any old person with dementia or Alzheimer, it's very easy to convince them that they did something that they didn't.
 
Again it's not the Autopen it's the fact that someone else could have been signing the Pardons instead of Joe, and that Joe may not have even known about them at the time of signing.
It's crazy but Professor Donger has swayed me on this debate. After having seen the first 2024 presidential debate, I do honestly agree that Joe was 100% being run by a cabal of people we didn't vote for. He was like one of those Chinese child emperors where the advisors actually run everything. And so if he didn't physically touch these pardons and also never heard about them... maybe throw them out?
 
It's crazy but Professor Donger has swayed me on this debate. After having seen the first 2024 presidential debate, I do honestly agree that Joe was 100% being run by a cabal of people we didn't vote for. He was like one of those Chinese child emperors where the advisors actually run everything. And so if he didn't physically touch these pardons and also never heard about them... maybe throw them out?
It's wild to me that people don't seem to understand that Joe Biden wasn't mentally there for at least the last year of his presidency. You can see it every fucking time he talks
 
You niggers arguing that an unelected theater kid with access to an auto-pen with Biden's signature is a-okay are the same fucks who'd scream constitutional crisis and end of democracy if it was a fucking Trump aide doing the same shit under the current administration. You TDS faggots are some of the worst, most disingenuous scum bags I've ever had the displeasure of associating with, even with something as trivial as just being members of the same forum. Sincerely, and whole-heartedly: eat a bullet. I genuinely despise you. Your kind are the reason I can hardly ever engage in good-faith arguments anymore. All you ever want to do is win, regardless of how retarded your position may be. There's no reasoning to be had with you, so do the rest of us a favor and suck-start a thirty-aught-six.
 
It's pretty clear to me and at least 60%+ of Americans that Joe Biden was not president for 4 years.

Some shadow junta of Democratic staffers was running the show. $50 says Biden can't use the bathroom unaided.

I have met retarded vegetables with more mobility than that old fuck.
 
Man literally has dementia and has had multiple on film instances of him forgetting shit that he shouldn't be forgetting. His not signing something and then being told that he did is not a hard thing to get away with. If you've interacted with any old person with dementia or Alzheimer, it's very easy to convince them that they did something that they didn't.
So just because you have 'dementia or Alzheimer' (which hasn't even been proven to be true), means you're actions as president are invalid? Seriously?
 
It's pretty clear to me and at least 60%+ of Americans that Joe Biden was not president for 4 years.

Some shadow junta of Democratic staffers was running the show. $50 says Biden can't use the bathroom unaided.
It doesn't even have to be a shadow junta, it could be the same shit that happened with Wilson after his stroke where his wife was effectively the President. I could see Jill signing shit with autopen in Joes name to try and keep it "above board" and then gaslighting her husband while he's smearing ice cream and shitting himself that he signed the pardons.
 
Former Trump voter here. There is no plan. Trump is just insane. He’s tearing up alliances to help support Putin, his supporters have this insane idea that protesting at a Tesla station is terrorism, and the economy is collapsing while innocent citizens are getting disappeared in foreign nations without due process because they’re just brown.
Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
 
So just because you have 'dementia or Alzheimer' (which hasn't even been proven to be true), means you're actions as president are invalid? Seriously?
Nobody can argue with you because you preface everything incorrectly.

Biden signed basically nothing. It's arguable he wasn't even vaguely aware of things signed in his name. Literally his entire presidency was Weekend at Bernie's. For four years the country was run by committee while propping up essentially a stuffed animal as the president.

Yes it's invalid. Nobody voted for the Pretend We Have A President Club to run the country. A human being became president, and he was not able to discharge those duties. Instead of being replaced, he was sidelined in his own administration.
 
Nobody can argue with you because you preface everything incorrectly.

Biden signed basically nothing. Literally his entire presidency was Weekend at Bernie's. For four years the country was run by committee while propping up essentially a stuffed animal as the president.

Yes it's invalid. Nobody voted for the Pretend We Have A President Club to run the country. A human being became president, and he was not able to discharge those duties. Instead of being replaced, he was sidelined in his own administration.
and now we get to watch absolutely nobody be held accountable
 
Nobody can argue with you because you preface everything incorrectly.
Congrats, you are the winner.

This is why all the retards here from the feature are so annoying. They preface their arguments with incorrect assumptions and it makes it infuriating to read and reply to them. To make it clear: Biden never authorized the pardons at all. We don't even know who actually authorized it and forged the signature, which implies a very serious crisis.
 
Nobody can argue with you because you preface everything incorrectly.

Biden signed basically nothing. Literally his entire presidency was Weekend at Bernie's. For four years the country was run by committee while propping up essentially a stuffed animal as the president.

Yes it's invalid. Nobody voted for the Pretend We Have A President Club to run the country. A human being became president, and he was not able to discharge those duties. Instead of being replaced, he was sidelined in his own administration.
I hate to say this, because i hate the bitch but the best things the dems could have done for 2024's election would have been to get rid of joe a year into his election with the 25th and put Kamala in... actually no it would have been worse because Trump would have had the means to absolutely wreck her even more for being a terrible president.
 
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