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Should be a wild four years.

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Incorrect, you still can if you think it would incriminate you for something you aren't pardoned for.

Furthermore, are they pardoned still or not? wooooo!?!? If they have good reason to think they're not? 5a rights lmao.
The pardons are sweeping for almost a decade for specific people like Liz Cheney so if it's ruled she still is pardoned she would be forced to answer yes.

You're not allowed to reverse a presidential pardon lmao.
Then I guess they will be answering the questions.
 
They got pretty substantial blanket pardons. You would be pretty hard pressed to find a reason to plead the 5th outside of actively commiting crimes currently.
A good one would be if the president of the united states did something to dispute your pardon.
 
I'm not a Trump fan but I find his presidency part 2 fascinating so far. If anything, I'm appreciating how far laws and standards are being pushed and proded. It's a good stress test and can help solidify more laws, for or against this administration's goals. I see it as a good thing if just to try and strenghten laws or redefine them to fit better to modern times. I'm sure we're going to get some crappy interpretations too.
 

I wonder how the news machine will paint this as the evil vile acts of a tyrant that isnt letting these poor obviously innocent individuals that were legally forgiven by the last democratically elected fully mentally functional president on his literal last day go on their merry way.
 
They got pretty substantial blanket pardons. You would be pretty hard pressed to find a reason to plead the 5th outside of actively commiting crimes currently.
Meh, just plead the 5th either way. They can’t prove you’re doing it for something you’re pardoned for or not, or just do a ’can’t recall’. This isn’t Law & Order, they can’t compel anyone to tell the truth. Hell there are murderers caught dead to rights that refuse to admit their guilt, why would these people?
 
Trump, please… I can’t keep eating all these white pills.


This is personally bizarre for me because quite literally yesterday. I don’t know why, but my mind went to thinking about Biden pardoning essentially his entire family and I remember thinking how fucked that was and how no one seems to care.

Fucking O7’s to Trump if he does something with this.
 
As much as you want to pretend Biden had no idea about the pardons just because some O’Keefe retard said so, Biden said multiple times (including during his last interview as president) that he was considering pardons for Liz Cheney, Fauci, and Mark Milley.

The only pardons that really came out of the blue were of his other family members (nobody remembers Biden pardoned his brother while the inauguration was literally happening).

Nothing will come out of this.
 
That's what I'm thinking about, as well. How is this going to even play out? They must have something that's so incriminating that they're allowed to reverse a presidential pardon.
There's nothing to reverse a presidential pardon. As written, Article II is exceedingly clear, that the pardon authority is unassailable and absolute. The only thing that would make it stick is a smoking gun proving, without a doubt, that the pardons never actually took place. We would need the Nixon Watergate tapes 2.0 for that, which is possible, but almost certainly this won't hold water.
 
That's exactly my point. How the hell is that going to play out?
Honestly, there's a smoking gun in the autopen thing. If some staffer could simply press the button while the President is indisposed of then it brings to question a lot of things. Say if Musk pressed the auto pin button while Trump is doing watersports on Russian Hookers, they might want to ask questions. So we're asking did Biden pardon them or did some faggot intern pardoned them.
 
If Trump can provide legitimate evidence that Biden had no knowledge of approval of the pardons signed in his name, would this still hold up? I don't know if it is an issue the courts have ever come close to dealing with.
This doesn't exist so we don't need to think about it.

Because if it existed, we would already know about it. Trump would be sperging out about it and posting videos of it.
 
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