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Should be a wild four years.

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Chop Top powiedział(a):
Can’t wait to see how far he falls.
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i mean him going back to the same show he used to do but at 5% of the salary is pretty much a huge fall, he thought when he moved on from the daily show he'd become a huge movie director. then once his two films failed hard he had to crawl back.

beyond that his legacy is very solidly only in the "born in the 1980s" generation with zoomers either not knowing about him or thinking he's a fag. he's a bit like a political version of dane cook, if you came of age during the bush era you love him but if you're on either side you don't give any fucks about him.
 
The Epstein list is far better as blackmail and leverage than it is for smearing opponents. I suspect that's partially why they're only releasing "some" of it. Why waste perfectly good blackmail material when in all likelihood anyone on that list is unlikely to ever answer for their crimes anyways?
 
HTTP Error 404 powiedział(a):
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Uncivil Law is covering another fun Judicial ruling. Appeals court says schools can put your children through gender transition therapy without your approval or knowledge and if you don't like it, well, you don't have a vested interest in your child's sexuality -- but the school does.

Just to add to the "hey look, judges who need to learn what fear means" pile.
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maybe i'm alone here but id give up my kid they want to troon out. let the school house and feed it. i don't think anyone gets brainwashed into trans, they get suckered by their narcisism. why should i toil to raise a monster?
 
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oh no its pipkun powiedział(a):
maybe i'm alone here but id give up my kid they want to troon out. let the school house and feed it. i don't think anyone gets brainwashed into trans, they get suckered by their narcisism. why should i toil to raise a monster?
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Easy to say if you’re not a parent, if/when you have kids you’ll think differently.
 
Vyse Inglebard powiedział(a):
"youth engaged in survival sex work". Considering the topic of discussion at the moment, take a guess as to what that REALLY fucking means. Just when you think you couldn't POSSIBLY hate these demons enough, they manage to sink even lower.
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I have words. It's a bit hard to formulate them in a way that doesn't retread ways I've presented words like them before. This is the best I could come up with, with some insight on how the sausage is made when it comes to... this.

Them wanting to destigmatize the youth engaged in survival sexwork instead of actively tackling the problems that led them to that moment is very telling.

I would go as far to assume it's mostly because you would have to bring into focus that a good chunk of them had to learn these behaviors from SOMEONE to emulate them and begin their "work."

Even if you disregard the fact the stance is also about pedophiles wanting to get easier (and less demonized) access to children, you have to address the innate laziness and purposeful refusal to look at surrounding factors that would lead children into that situation.

This is a general problem with the LGBTQ+ family as a whole. No one wants to openly address historical problems while being someone within the family, or as address them as outsider who peaks and sees how fucked up shit gets.

Problems like grooming, teaching adopted kids who got kicked out the cancerous and memetic lifestyle, having self-awareness but being unable to bring themselves to speak out because they want to keep their connections and place in the community (this one is a biggie, the mental gymnastics are insane.)

The list goes on. There's a lot of dirty laundry and skeletons that've been left in the closet.

On the flip side, the whole point of this rambling, you have the scummy and evil politicians (also potentially pedophiles) that want to remain on their perceived 'right side of history.' They know about these rampant problems, feign ignorance, and push the programmed song and dance to keep the AIDS machine running. Basically enablers who should also be put in prison or go through some form of very mild fedpost, like, I dunno, whoopie cushion sabotage and embarrassing them bigly.

Keystone powiedział(a):
A tranny who also grooms kids on reddit.
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To nobody's surprise.
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Also, as per usual, Total Tranny Death. They are also a part of this problem and I will never pretend they aren't.
 
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The funniest thing about Leibowitz, Oliver, et al. is that they paved the way for their nemesis, Greg Gutfeld, who has eclipsed them all in ratings. So instead of late night being dominated by smug irony shitlibs and their audience of clapping soylennials, you instead have a FOX host being the most successful powered entirely by Q boomers.
 
Breadbassket powiedział(a):
Something to consider is that as much as most Americans say they love their country now is that during the Revolution it is claimed that 40% supported the Patriots, 20% were Loyalists and 40% were Moderates who wanted to mostly just be left alone and live in peace. Those numbers weren't exactly static during the conflict but it is clear the more things change the more they stay the same.
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does it break it down by region? IIRC New England were a lot more patrotic whereas the south, because they were developed way later on than the north had a lot more ties to britian, hell a huge chunk of their population in the revolution were born in britian. but overall most just wanted peace.

Plus considering the government in place i don't blame people for being moderates or loyalists to some extend. especially when a huge factor in the patriot cause was indian attacks which was mainly a northern problem at that point and based on treaties was supposedly a "solved" issue.

If you notice New England really got fucked, being the center of the most intolerable acts of the 1770s and then becoming the basis of the Federalists who then got wiped out as a party in the 1790s. Thats really the weird thing about the "founding fathers" and revolutions in general, the fighters get fucked and the real founders as in the heads of govenrment are usually from entirely different places if not generations.

the father of the constitution and writer of the declaration of independence were from entirely different generations and washington was from a generation older than them.

It would be like if Gen X, Millenials, and Zoomers were all shoved under the same umbrella of "founding fathers of the internet"
Clyde Cash's Left Teste powiedział(a):
For free? Though the massage parlor stuff usually kinda shady
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if you're in college yes, as for the massage parlor, unless you're on the west coast or Vegas or the north east its not really worth it. Chicago too i guess. But i knew plenty of asian women pre-tinder in college who would go "i need some dick" and like announce it in the dorms or at the end of class and basically were that level of slut.

I still semi-regret not taking a few women up on the offer but OTOH i was so messed up on stuff it would have been a terrible time for them.
 
FieldPiece powiedział(a):
Islam is a fucking obvious cult and I'm not even getting into the absolute batshit things these pedo worshippers believe in.
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The book-worshippers think Mahomet (heaps of shit on his name) was a prophet, but the prophets do not come armed with swords. Their barbarism should be rejected.
 
Get the rope Macaulay! powiedział(a):
if you're in college yes, as for the massage parlor, unless you're on the west coast or Vegas or the north east its not really worth it. Chicago too i guess. But i knew plenty of asian women pre-tinder in college who would go "i need some dick" and like announce it in the dorms or at the end of class and basically were that level of slut.
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So basically if your a college student you kinda have to live on campus and not be a commuter.
 
Texas Dept of Ag claims a US farmer got wacked by a cartel IED on the Mexican side of the border yesterday on the near Brownsville.
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“A tragic and alarming incident occurred near Brownsville, Texas, where a U.S. citizen and Texas rancher was killed by an improvised explosive device (IED). This shocking act of violence highlights the growing threat posed by cartel activity along our southern border.

I urge all Texas farmers, ranchers, and agricultural workers who travel to Mexico or operate near the border to exercise extreme caution. The Lower Rio Grande Valley (LRGV) is a crucial part of Texas agriculture, and the safety of our agricultural community is of utmost importance. We cannot overlook the rising violence that threatens not only lives but also the security of our farms, ranches, and rural communities.

I encourage everyone in the agricultural industry to stay vigilant, remain aware of their surroundings, and report any suspicious activity to law enforcement. Additionally, you can avoid dirt roads and remote areas, refrain from touching unfamiliar objects that could be explosive devices, limit travel to daylight hours, stay on main roads, and avoid cartel-controlled regions. Our agriculture family is the backbone of Texas, and we must do everything we can to protect it.”
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Second article (archive).
(NewsNation) — A 74-year-old Texas rancher and one other person were killed and a third person was injured by what authorities said was an improvised explosive device planted by a cartel close to the U.S.-Mexico border.

The rancher died near Brownsville, Texas, but was killed on the Mexican side of the border, said Sid Miller, the Texas Agriculture commissioner, in a statement Tuesday.

Miller’s office told NewsNation that the incident took place earlier this month. The rancher, Antonio Céspedes Saldierna, ranched on both sides of the border. Saldierna ran over an IED — which authorities suspect was planted by a drug cartel — in the Mexican state of Tamaulipas, Miller’s office confirmed to NewsNation.

The blast also killed Horacio Lopez Peña, and Lopez’s wife, Ninfa Griselda Ortega, sustained injuries and has been hospitalized.
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So Trump just went back on like everything he said with Ukraine. So the minerals didn't happen. They won't go to America and America will keep funding Ukraine despite all the boomer bluster that it was a money laundering front. So Trump pissed off American allies for nothing.

According to the latest version of the arrangement, the profits made from Ukrainian natural resources will exclusively be spent on projects inside Ukraine, as Zelensky had demanded from the beginning. Trump will nevertheless claim it as a "amazing deal-making victory" and, by the looks of it, he will also use it as a way to pull his hands of a situation that he has much less control over than he thought. This likely means that, at least in the short term, Ukraine can keep grinding down the Russian invaders with the help of American weapons, but without too much nagging from Washington
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Buck Broken Chimp powiedział(a):
According to the latest version of the arrangement, the profits made from Ukrainian natural resources will exclusively be spent on projects inside Ukraine, as Zelensky had demanded from the beginning. Trump will nevertheless claim it as a "amazing deal-making victory" and, by the looks of it, he will also use it as a way to pull his hands of a situation that he has much less control over than he thought. This likely means that, at least in the short term, Ukraine can keep grinding down the Russian invaders with the help of American weapons, but without too much nagging from Washington
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what the fuck are you quoting?
 
Get the rope Macaulay! powiedział(a):
Thats really the weird thing about the "founding fathers" and revolutions in general, the fighters get fucked and the real founders as in the heads of govenrment are usually from entirely different places if not generations.

the father of the constitution and writer of the declaration of independence were from entirely different generations and washington was from a generation older than them.

It would be like if Gen X, Millenials, and Zoomers were all shoved under the same umbrella of "founding fathers of the internet"
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Jefferson was only 11 years younger then Washington. A lot of the Founding Fathers are envisioned to be a lot older then they actually were when the Revolution happened though that isn't the case in reality. There is some elders among them but many were younger then 40 years old in 1776.

Here is a list of ages, from youngest to oldest, of key American Revolution figures, providing their age as of July 4, 1776. An asterisk signifies that the individual was a signer of the Declaration of Independence. A double asterisk means that there is evidence that the person’s age is not precise, or only a birth year is known.

  • Andrew Jackson, 9
  • (Major) Thomas Young, 12
  • Deborah Sampson, 15
  • James Armistead, 15
  • Joseph Plumb Martin, 15
  • Peter Salem, 16**
  • Peggy Shippen, 16
  • Marquis de Lafayette, 18
  • James Monroe, 18
  • Henry Lee III, 20
  • Gilbert Stuart, 20
  • John Trumbull, 20
  • Aaron Burr, 20
  • John Marshall, 20
  • Nathan Hale, 21
  • Banastre Tarleton, 21
  • Alexander Hamilton, 21**
  • Benjamin Tallmadge, 22
  • Robert Townsend, 22
  • George Rodgers Clark, 23
  • David Humphreys, 23
  • Gouveneur Morris, 24
  • Betsy Ross, 24
  • William Washington, 24
  • James Madison, 25
  • Henry Knox, 25
  • John Andre, 26
  • Thomas Lynch, Jr., 26*
  • Edward Rutledge, 26*
  • Abraham Woodhull, 26
  • Isaiah Thomas, 27
  • George Walton, 27* **
  • John Paul Jones, 28
  • Bernardo de Galvez, 29
  • Thomas Heyward, Jr., 29*
  • Robert R. Livingston, 29
  • John Jay, 30
  • Tadeusz Kosciuszko, 30
  • Benjamin Rush, 30*
  • Abigail Adams, 31
  • John Barry, 31
  • Elbridge Gerry, 31*
  • Casimir Pulaski, 31
  • Anthony Wayne, 31
  • Joseph Brant, 33
  • Nathanael Greene, 33
  • Thomas Jefferson, 33*
  • Thomas Stone, 33* **
  • William Hooper, 34*
  • Arthur Middleton, 34*
  • James Wilson, 34* **
  • Benedict Arnold, 35
  • Samuel Chase, 35*
  • Thomas Knowlton, 35
  • William Paca, 35*
  • John Penn, 35*
  • Hercules Mulligan, 36
  • Andrew Pickens, 36
  • Haym Solomon, 36
  • John Sullivan, 36
  • George Clymer, 37*
  • Charles Cornwallis, 37
  • Thomas Nelson, Jr., 37*
  • Ethan Allen, 38
  • Charles Carroll, 38*
  • King George III, 38
  • Francis Hopkinson, 38*
  • Carter Braxton, 39*
  • George Clinton, 39
  • John Hancock, 39*
  • Daniel Morgan, 39
  • Thomas Paine, 39
  • Patrick Henry, 40
  • Enoch Poor, 40
  • John Adams, 40*
  • Daniel Boone, 41
  • William Floyd, 41^
  • Button Gwinnett, 41* **
  • John Lamb, 41**
  • Francis Lightfoot Lee, 41*
  • Paul Revere, 41
  • Thomas Sumter, 41
  • Robert Morris, 42*
  • Thomas McKean, 42*
  • George Read, 42*
  • John Dickinson, 43
  • John Glover, 43
  • Benjamin Edes, 43
  • Samuel Huntington, 44*
  • Richard Henry Lee, 44*
  • Charles Lee, 44
  • Francis Marion, 44
  • Lord North, 44
  • George Washington, 44
  • Joseph Galloway, 45
  • Robert Treat Paine, 45*
  • Friedrich von Steuben, 45
  • Richard Stockton, 45*
  • Martha Washington, 45
  • William Williams, 45*
  • (Dr.) Thomas Young, 45
  • Josiah Bartlett, 46*
  • Henry Clinton, 46
  • Joseph Hewes, 46*
  • William Howe, 46
  • George Ross, 46*
  • William Whipple, 46*
  • Caesar Rodney, 47*
  • John Stark, 47
  • Mercy Otis Warren, 47
  • William Ellery, 48*
  • Horatio Gates, 48
  • Artemas Ward, 48
  • Oliver Wolcott, 49*
  • Abraham Clark, 50*
  • Benjamin Harrison, 50*
  • Lewis Morris, 50*
  • Lord Stirling, 50
  • George Wythe, 50* **
  • Guy Carleton, 51
  • John Morton, 51* **
  • Comte de Rochambeau, 51
  • Lyman Hall, 52*
  • James Rivington, 52**
  • Samuel Adams, 53*
  • Comte de Grasse, 53
  • John Witherspoon, 53*
  • John Burgoyne, 54
  • Johann de Kalb, 55
  • Roger Sherman, 55*
  • Thomas Gage, 56
  • James Smith, 56*
  • Israel Putnam, 58
  • Comte de Vergennes, 58
  • Lewis Nicola, 59**
  • George Germain, 60
  • Philip Livingston, 60*
  • George Taylor, 60* **
  • Matthew Thornton, 62*
  • Francis Lewis, 63*
  • John Hart, 65* **
  • Stephen Hopkins, 69*
  • Benjamin Franklin, 70*
  • Samuel Whittemore, 81
 
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