Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[obsdj]

I am actually curious. How many times could Russ in theory keep appealing until he is forced to pay by the court? Could we have this case go on another 4-5 years? Also, are there any mechanisms to make him pay? It seems that he is a broke, gimpy-faced retard to I’m not sure how much he can actually pay. Would he face jail for refusing?

I guess what I’m getting at here is if I ever found myself staring down a court judgement could I just sperg about my plights for years and years?

I don't know, but I would actually kind of love it if we ever get to the day where Greer gets this hilarious kind of smackdown that we occasionally see from SCOTUS:

 

[WelperHelper99]

That's also increadibly merciful. Hardin could have asked for three times that and probably gotten it. All moot anyway since Greer probably doesn't have 50 dollars, let alone 5000

He does have a car though that can be repo'd

 

[Useful_Mistake]

He has the right to appeal, including review by the district judge or even 10th circuit and a written explanation from the judge(s) reviewing his filing of why his appeal has/lacks merit.

Not necessarily. In Law v. National Collegiate Athletic Assoc, 134 F.3d 1438 (10th Cir. 1998), the 10th Circuit held that "Sanctions [...] generally are not deemed final appealable orders under 28 U.S.C. § 1291." as long as that sanction is civil in nature. Particularly, where the Judge orders merely to make the victims whole, as here, the sanction is civil, and not immediately appealable as per National Collegiate Athletic Assoc. See also Valentine v. James River Ins. Co., No. 22-1175 (10th Cir. Jul. 13, 2022) ("First, we conclude that Ms. Valentine may not immediately appeal the district order that related to discovery and to the conduct or progress of litigation. Second, we note that the district court has not imposed any sanctions on Ms. Valentine, but that an interlocutory sanctions order otherwise would not be immediately appealable.")

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

I am actually curious. How many times could Russ in theory keep appealing until he is forced to pay by the court? Could we have this case go on another 4-5 years? Also, are there any mechanisms to make him pay? It seems that he is a broke, gimpy-faced retard to I’m not sure how much he can actually pay. Would he face jail for refusing?

The courts may be slow, but they’re not completely broken. Once you’re in appeals against actions of the court there is a very defined process, that quickly ends with “appeal to the supremes” and if you fail, the big dick of the law appears.

Abuse of appeals takes you from fighting your opponent to fighting the court itself. Russ is near here.

 

[FamicomGorby]

He does have a car though that can be repo'd

Isn't his car a rental through Uber or Doordash?

 

[UncleTusky]

He does have a car though that can be repo'd

But it's a weekly rental through Uber or Lyft or one of the other similar services - legally he does not own the title or even any equity in the thing.

Given that it is a vehicle he uses to make a living that would be a strong defense against repossession even if he did own it outright.

ETA: Ninja'd

 

[Pee Cola]

He does have a car though that can be repo'd

Last time I checked, Russhole had a rental car as his 2021 Nissan Versa was repossessed (and he tried suing his former landlord over a broken gate at his apartment complex, thus allowing the repo men to come in and do their job).

 

[WelperHelper99]

Isn't his car a rental through Uber or Doordash?

But it's a weekly rental through Uber or Lyft or one of the other similar services - legally he does not own the title or even any equity in the vehicle.

It sounds like we don't fully know and the court should definitely find that out. In any case he's defying the order, memes are ahead

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Post flag with gold fringe to prove it.

Can't. It got defaced during my many many homosexual acts with @Illuminati Order Official

 

[Helvetia]

Please, please, please Jewish God, put a lien on his half-hovel.
Wait, wrong cow.

 

[DavidS877]

It sounds like we don't fully know and the court should definitely find that out. In any case he's defying the order, memes are ahead

Once the judgement is approved Hardin can likely file for a debtors exam to find this stuff out if Greer fails to pay or agree to a payment plan before any deadline the court gives.

 

[h3catoncheries]

Hardin withdrew that. The sanctions for that were based on Russ deliberately trying to tamper with Taylor. Taylor was dead at the time, so even if that was Russ's intention, he couldn't have actually done it. He's reserved the right to file for sanctions on some other theory, though, for Russ lying to the court about a man three months dead being "eager" to testify.

Yep the Steve thing is withdrawn because the poor guy is dead, there is tho a 24th deadline for the 'motion to compel show cause' about the totally real restraining order.

 

[Magnificent Penis]

Seems nice of Hardin to only list the fees that Null actually paid instead of his Fitzpatrick rate of $669. Any idea why he wouldn't have invoiced Russ for the full value of his time?

Hardin is a FOIA specialist. I bet he is ideologically aligned with Null on the issue of Internet freedom. He is listed as a founding member of Null's charity, the US Internet preservation society. All signs point to him being a legitimate fighter.

 

[AnOminous]

Not necessarily. In Law v. National Collegiate Athletic Assoc, 134 F.3d 1438 (10th Cir. 1998), the 10th Circuit held that "Sanctions [...] generally are not deemed final appealable orders under 28 U.S.C. § 1291." as long as that sanction is civil in nature.

It depends on the nature of the sanction. Sanctions pursuant to a claim of privilege often are appealable, because it would be pointless to appeal them after the privilege had already been breached. This is even though the underlying order might not itself be appealable, subsequent to Mohawk Industries, Inc. v. Carpenter, 558 U.S. 100 (2009) (resolving a circuit split on the issue).

In any case he's defying the order, memes are ahead

There isn't an order yet.

 

[Exit fullscreen button]

Hardin can likely file for a debtors exam

Oh, the irony.
In fact, it's probably YOUUUU who will be undergoing a debtor's exam, to be honest with you, Russell.

 

[Welfare Bum]

How is he gonna afford to get him his penis sucked now? He should really add that to his list of plights.

 

[ScooterL]

I'm curious as to his motivation for not accepting payment.

No puzzle - he didn't do the thing the money was for, so he didn't take the money. It's just honest, most people would do the same. Makes me think Russell's lying deviance is more nature than nurture.

 

[YouTube Autist]

Spoiler: PL

I was hit by a car yesterday (No joke!)

and reading the phrase "The total amount reflected as being due as of this moment is $5,559.76" warmed my heart and made me feel better.

You fight it, Greer! NEVER GIVE UP! That judge only ruled against you because he's a mean bad man who hates the disabled! You don't have to pay that money if you don't want to!

 

[Pee Cola]

No puzzle - he didn't do the thing the money was for, so he didn't take the money. It's just honest, most people would do the same. Makes me think Russell's lying deviance is more nature than nurture.

Oh, I remember now. Russhole told his Dad not to talk to the "crazy man", hence it wouldn't be right to take payment for services not rendered.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

That's also increadibly merciful. Hardin could have asked for three times that and probably gotten it. All moot anyway since Greer probably doesn't have 50 dollars, let alone 5000

The restraint was an elegant touch, with no downside.

This goes back to Greer's original complaint in which he himself admits:

His use of "the girl" makes my skin crawl. Pretty sure she wasn't a child, Russell. Also pretty sure this was a legal pleading, where one must at least pretend to respect other human beings.