Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[obsdj]

Fun stuff, but I can't help but mourn for the Motion to Quash that should have been. Sigh.

 

[GloriousScarf]

I shouldn't be sanctioned because I had to withdraw witnesses and there is a user called Russtard. Amazing, great job.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

“I have too much evidence to send all of it.”

Declares and sends no evidence.

What did he mean by this?

 

[Tenebrous Calamity]

So no family Christmas card then?

Also he still doesn't get that it's own fault for it being published. Gotta say the magic words Russ.



Russ no one here wants your shitty mixtapes. The market is zero.

 

[waffle]

I'm glad he was worried enough to file this early in the day, but still managed to totally miss the point.

There's a really funny if you know you know moment about the emails and exhibits.

 

[obsdj]

Okay now on the subject of "Parties stipulated that witnesses would be stricken, but did not agree to evidence being stricken." As has already been pointed out in this thread (and probably where Greer got the idea, sigh), it's true that the word "evidence" does not appear in the stipulation. But the stipulation DOES clearly shut Russell down in terms of "offering testimony."

Can Hardin point out Greer's inappropriate attempt to offer testimony into the record via this response, in which he makes all manner of claims re: harassment, stalking, "objectively" crazy and unhinged forum members, etc.?

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Did he just admit that only “crazy individuals” would want his shit, even for free?

 

[DHugo]

@Russtard

Last seen: Jun 3, 2021
He still maldin

 

[victor lasagna]

Yea the sanctions issue isn't moot. Hardin had to expend a ton of effort over months to attempt to get Russell to comply with basic discovery- meet and confer, disclosures, witnesses. The fact the witness issue ended in a late, completely inadequate disclosure of two irrelevant witnesses that wanted nothing to do with the case and pulled out before deposition doesn't moot anything. The damage (and billing) has already been done.

With the "mind to infringe", the quotation was about Groskter's promotion materials and advertising it had top 40 songs available to download. What does that have to do with random alogs sending him nasty emails?

 

[East_Clintwood]

Mush mouthed, gimp faced, trauma lumped hooker enthusiasts in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

 

[4090 Chad]

It is certainly a choice to willfully admit to obstructing this case, dare I say he is being, recalcitrant?

 

[Terrifik]

Russ no one here wants your shitty mixtapes. The market is zero.

not necessarily there is the copyright office.

 

[Black Spruce]

So is this really it? The evidence of contributory copyright infringement that he must provide, but still refuses to, are examples of people making fun of him? Does anyone know if he's ever actually disclosed anything to Null or he just described what he refuses to disclose and left it at that?

 

[DHugo]

Pretty good response, got everything:
1. Time travel, trying to avoid punishment for past behavior with actions taken after that. I know one case of a copyright troll that wanted to avoid sanctions by settling and ending the case, the judge said "lmao no".
2. Complaining about how he was afraid to release the information, even though the judge granted protective order that he didn't use
3. He has evidence of harassment and copyright infringement, and he sent some of it to Hardin. Only the harassment tho.

 

[BoomerPrime]

I feel like he has addressed everything (even already dismissed things) but the thing he was meant to address (that he only addressed partially)

Was there ever any doubt?

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So is this really it? The evidence of contributory copyright infringement that he must provide, but still refuses to, are examples of people making fun of him? Does anyone know if he's ever actually disclosed anything to Null or he just described what he refuses to disclose and left it at that?

Glad someone else said it. JFC Russ, literally none of this has anything to do with what you claim happened with your shitty music, and how the fuck do you know what anyone is "of the mind" to do?

 

[obsdj]

So is this really it? The evidence of contributory copyright infringement that he must provide, but still refuses to, are examples of people making fun of him? Does anyone know if he's ever actually disclosed anything to Null or he just described what he refuses to disclose and left it at that?

Furthermore, how could he even prove ANY of the emails he has EVER (allegedly) received came from KF users specifically, and not, say, that "knockout chat" faggot forum, or literally any other forum on Ye Olde Internettes for that matter?

 

[StinkySnack]

If the judge just accepts this filing as "good enough", and moves on with the case, what little optimism I have left will be reduced significantly further.

 

[Terrifik]

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So is this really it? The evidence of contributory copyright infringement that he must provide, but still refuses to, are examples of people making fun of him? Does anyone know if he's ever actually disclosed anything to Null or he just described what he refuses to disclose and left it at that?

yes , but i'm trying to get my 15min fame by using kiwifarm name & null name as jumping off points in my life .

 

[Not At All A Lizard]

I love how he had to beg Hardin to let his witnesses go, I would guess because his family reamed him for it. I thought it might've been Hardin's suggestion but no, he really is that pathetic.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Credit where credit's due, dropping "moot" in there was smart play, regardless of the facts. Mootness is catnip to judges even in regular cases, but in lolcow cases it's crack-a-rooski.

But if the judge manages to white-knuckle his way past that paragraph, I think he is going to be very much less than amused by the argument that "I disobeyed you because it was justified"