Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Sneedfully and Peacefully]

Recalcitrant is going to get shoved into Russ' lexicon now. That's not an everyday word so it looks fancy and a judge said it so it must be a legalese magic word for "bad uncooperative meanie" he can use against the next whore who doesn't like the Olive Garden dinner.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

Whatever the judge decides, those filings are going to be fun.

I'm hoping we get one of those immediate kneejerk filings he's clearly been sitting on in case his stalling tactics don't work.

Please please please send the judge another Tumblr blog with pictures of Hitler to explain why evidence doesn't matter and the rules don't apply to you. It would be so fucking funny.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

This is an amazing ruling for Null but I will wait until the 23rd with managed expectations because the court has already issued an empty threat about dismissing the case and Greer's reposting of his retarded schedule was apparently deemed good enough.

They are required to issue threats before acting on them (depending on the severity of the sanction). The purpose is to clearly inform the threatened side that they are walking on a thin line, and to give power to the later-issued sanction. This is ordinarily required for normal litigants (see, for example, Fuentes v. Chavez, 314 F. App'x 143 (10th Cir. 2009) "Rule 41(b) specifically authorizes a district court to dismiss an action for failing to comply with any aspect of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure [...] Employing Rule 41(b) to dismiss a case without prejudice for failure to comply with Rule 8 of course allows the plaintiff another go at trimming the verbiage; accordingly, a district court may, without abusing its discretion, enter such an order without attention to any particular procedures. Dismissing a case with prejudice, however, is a significantly harsher remedy-the death penalty of pleading punishments-and we have held that, for a district court to exercise soundly its discretion in imposing such a result, it must first consider certain criteria. Specifically, "[t]hese criteria include '(1) the degree of actual prejudice to the defendant; (2) the amount of interference with the judicial process; (3) the culpability of the litigant; (4) whether the court warned the party in advance that dismissal of the action would be a likely sanction for noncompliance; and (5) the efficacy of lesser sanctions.'") and to a much higher degree for pro se litigants (Id. "[while talking about dismissal as a sanction] While we are more reluctant to dismiss a pro se plaintiffs complaint with prejudice, as it is more difficult to determine whether he has truly grasped how to cure the defects in his complaint, the court did not simply tell Mr. Fuentes to "comply with the pleading requirements" but told him plainly to add more facts. He did not do so, and his similarly confusing brief before this court suggests another opportunity to amend would be futile as well. There is a limit to how many bites even a pro se plaintiff can have at the apple, and it was not an abuse of discretion for the district court to find that Mr. Fuentes had met that limit.")

This is also true for sanctions under Fed. R. Civ. P. 37(b)(2) which the judge cited. (see, for example Royal MFG Co. v. IXL Premium Lubricants, Case No. 1:16-cv-00050-PMW (D. Utah Apr. 20, 2018) or Prisbrey v. State Auto Ins. Cos., 4:21-cv-00124-DN-DBP (D. Utah Nov. 27, 2023))

I absolutely can’t wait to see how Russhole tries to spin this as Josh’s fault somehow

I mean, he already has, and the Judge specifically dismissed those arguments. Here's to hoping.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I mean, he already has, and the Judge specifically dismissed those arguments. Here's to hoping.

It's ridiculous he thinks Hardin will leak confidential info to the forum. Nigga I'm no expert, but that sounds like something you could get jail time for. I'm glad the Judge is actually getting serious with rusty- feels like this was the plan all along tbh

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

It’s kind of heartwarming to see that Greer trusts the Word of Moon more than the federal court system.

 

[Bill Evans 45]

This is an amazing ruling for Null but I will wait until the 23rd with managed expectations

Me too. It's like having to go to a wedding when you don't really want to and finding an unexpected free bar. Great in the moment, but guarantees nothing for future duty weddings.

Whatever the judge decides, those filings are going to be fun.

Something to look forward to. I mean, Russ is 'a good person', why can't the court see that and just launch Josh into the sun?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

It's ridiculous he thinks Hardin will leak confidential info to the forum.

No, he thinks Mr. Hardin will tell it to Null (as he should) and then Null will leak it to the forum (and given that I am the only person posting updates of this case, and Null has specifically refused to do it on at least two occasions (as he should) then it's implied that he thinks that either I am Null's alt, or Null is leaking stuff through me (he is not)

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

No, he thinks Mr. Hardin will tell it to Null (as he should) and then Null will leak it to the forum (and given that I am the only person posting updates of this case, and Null has specifically refused to do it on at least two occasions (as he should) then it's implied that he thinks that either I am Null's alt, or Null is leaking stuff through me (he is not)

Don’t you know that Null runs Kiwifarms and PACER and CourtListener?

 

[TractorGirl]

I hope he just sends in a video of him doing a retarded dance, like the one he did to pass strip mall law school

 

[WelperHelper99]

No, he thinks Mr. Hardin will tell it to Null (as he should) and then Null will leak it to the forum (and given that I am the only person posting updates of this case, and Null has specifically refused to do it on at least two occasions (as he should) then it's implied that he thinks that either I am Null's alt, or Null is leaking stuff through me (he is not)

I'm pretty sure even the court could figure out if you were a sock. The judge isn't a boomer. That and even if you WERE, that is under the expectation that Josh is retarded and wants to get turbofucked. It literally doesn't make sense no matter how you look at it

 

[Hrothgar]

I am the only person posting updates of this case, and Null has specifically refused to do it on at least two occasions (as he should) then it's implied that he thinks that either I am Null's alt, or Null is leaking stuff through me (he is not)

So you're Hardin AND Null? I guess that's one way to get around the prohibition against representing an LLC pro se. Actually, isn't there a random text about Joshua Moon not being a real person?

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

Don’t you know that Null runs Kiwifarms and PACER and CourtListener?

every further filing by russ generates revenue thru pacer fees from people running to read it and only makes null stronger
drop the case rusty thats how you beat him

 

[Lian Xing]

No, he thinks Mr. Hardin will tell it to Null (as he should) and then Null will leak it to the forum (and given that I am the only person posting updates of this case, and Null has specifically refused to do it on at least two occasions (as he should) then it's implied that he thinks that either I am Null's alt, or Null is leaking stuff through me (he is not)

Or you are Hardin.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Don’t you know that Null runs Kiwifarms and PACER and CourtListener?

I thought Putin ran PACER and that's why Jackie can't find the Torswat case

Actually, isn't there a random text about Joshua Moon not being a real person?

There is. “There is no Joshua Moon. If you think very, very hard, you will actually know who this is. I know you think I'm a tosser, but trust me. You will KNOW.“

 

[FamicomGorby]

So you're Hardin AND Null? I guess that's one way to get around the prohibition against representing an LLC pro se. Actually, isn't there a random text about Joshua Moon not being a real person?

Null/Hardin/Useful_Mistake are three separate beings that are at the same time the same being, much in the way of Yaweh.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Null/Hardin/Useful_Mistake are three separate beings that are at the same time the same being, much in the way of Yaweh.

I don't know whether I should feel honored that you are comparing me to a God, or offended because you are comparing me to a Jewish War God.

 

[GenociderSyo]

At what point will Greer believe EVERYONE on here is null?

 

[DHugo]

Null/Hardin/Useful_Mistake are three separate beings that are at the same time the same being, much in the way of Yaweh.

Makes you thunk

 

[FamicomGorby]

At what point will Greer believe EVERYONE on here is null?

Greer will soon develop a version of the Blood Angel's Black Rage where everyone he sees will look like Null after he loses this case.

 

[Harvey Danger]

It’s kind of heartwarming to see that Greer trusts the Word of Moon more than the federal court system.

It's the one thing Greer and I agree on.