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[fukefacedog]

The aliens are PMing me now.

Can anyone decipher this?

etd szklweuski had a tniop

 

[Sam Losco]

etd szklweuski had a tniop

Ed Szymanski (a chef in NY apparently) had a (unscambled word) pinto?

Edit: This feels like that Seinfeld bit.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

"Ted ___ had a point" but it's not Kaczynski???! Travesty.

Spoiler: Lue Elizondo / IMMINENT

I don't want to dwell too much on these, but if 10% of the book's contents are leaking it should probably be noted.

Lues Synopsis

These beings are in our oceans, and are VERY interested in our nuclear capabilities. They are more than likely an existential threat to Humanity, and have no qualms about hurting/destroying humans.

Holy fuck this is from Lue’s new book PLEASE give it a read - 8 pages, showing some of the "filler". 1000+ comments.

More screenshots of Elizondo's excerpts discussing the moving implants and filaments ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

...Imminent. The word itself is sometimes associated with another word, threat. Although at first glance it may appear that this book focuses on the potential threat of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP), or UFOs in the vernacular, that is not my intent. According to some of the common definitions of the word imminent, it usually means something is about to happen, or impending or inevitable. This is precisely why I chose the title.

With Luis Elizondo back in the spotlight the scrutiny and "grifter" accusations are bound to be thrown around A LOT. What I try to remember during these discussions is that his veracity is apparently backed by Karl Nell, who I think most people here put at the top of the credibility pyramid. - I think an opposite post attacking him (and later Karl Nell in the comments) was deleted, RIP.

Not "Spoiling" Lue's Book

Lue Elizondo's Imminent on trying to recover material from an aerospace contractor and being blocked by the Air Force, Hal Puthoff's idea on warp drives, and a return of the Garry Nolan bismuth-magnesium metamaterial

The Ontological Shock, Insider Knowledge - Lue

Speculating on Elizondo's book: Is this "legal" disclosure as best as we can get at the moment?

Douglas Dean Johnson: The UAP Disclosure Act: The proposed Pentagon/AARO re-write of November 2023 (archive) (PDF attached) (Reddit)

In the light of recent statements by the former head of the Pentagon "UFO office," Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, asserting that the Pentagon/AARO successfully derailed the Schumer-Rounds Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act (UAPDA) in late 2023, I am releasing here a proposed 33-page line-by-line rewrite of the Senate-passed UAPDA that the Pentagon provided to congressional negotiators during end-stage negotiations in November 2023.

This is the first publication of this document anywhere.

Further down in this article, you'll find Kirkpatrick's answers to questions I addressed to him for this article, such as whether the National Security Advisor or any other higher authority ever tried to subdue his activity in opposition to the UAPDA, and why the proposed Pentagon re-write of the UAPDA would have retained provisions affirming the right of the federal government to take ownership (via the exercise of eminent domain) over "any and all recovered technologies of unknown origin and biological evidence of non-human intelligence that be be controlled by private persons or entities..."

In the PDF, note:

• The transformation of "records related to UAP" to "records related to confirmed UAP" in an attempt to water it down.
• Complete removal of the Review Board.
• Watering down but not complete removal of the Eminent Domain provision, explained to Douglas Dean Johnson in an email from Sean Kirkpatrick.
• "Shall"s changing to "should"s. This has legal significance.
• Removal of the Five Six Observables in favor of referring to a definition in 50 U.S.C. § 3373(n)(8 ).

https://x.com/tinyklaus/status/1816120392223686744

Definitions the Pentagon wanted to remove from the UAP Disclosure Act:

- Close Observer
- Controlled Disclosure Campaign Plan
- Leadership of Congress
- Legacy Program
- Originating Body
- Prosaic Attribution
- Public interest
- UAP/The Six Observables

It's safe to say that AARO/Kirkpatrick convinced some members of Congress that the UAPDA was largely unnecessary, although they went a little further and struck out the eminent domain provision entirely.

DDJ also tweeted out that Senator Kirsten Gillibrand is now a cosponsor of the new UAPDA, which could indicate that she is not backing AARO 100% as has been speculated:


The Black Vault: U.S. Marine Corps Releases UAP Information Sharing Policy to The Black Vault (archive) (Reddit)

Gizmodo: Physicists Just Created an Element Using a Particle Beam (archive) (Reddit) - Element 116, trying to get to Element 120 and the elusive "island of stability".

 

[PandaChai]

Elizondo, Coulthart, Graff, anyone else got a grift going book out?

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Elizondo, Coulthart, Graff, anyone else got a grift going book out?

We'll get to read the Grusch op-ed for freeeeee (if it ever comes out).

Edit: Because it's going to be funded by this lawsuit settlement?!!

Loudoun Times-Mirror: UFO whistleblower sues Sheriff's Office over records release (archive) (Reddit) - This is due to The Intercept's Ken Klippenstein's FOIA request, if you remember that.

A retired Air Force officer who testified before Congress that the U.S. government was involved for decades in a secret "crash retrieval and reverse engineering program" involving UFOs is suing Loudoun County Sheriff Mike Chapman and an unidentified Sheriff's Office employee for releasing personal information about him.

The plaintiff, retired Maj. David C. Grusch, says in a $2.5 million lawsuit filed July 16 in Loudoun Circuit Court that a Sheriff's Office employee improperly released "highly sensitive, personal information" about his medical history in response to a Freedom of Information Act request on July 30, 2023. The employee is identified only as Jane Doe.

You would think he would lose this suit since it seems like a typical FOIA, but he might have a case:

Reports and court documents related to an "involuntary admission" are excluded from being released under the Virginia FOIA, according to the suit.

"The defendants had no authority to exercise discretion when releasing information relating to plaintiff's involuntary admission records, reports, and/or documents," the suit says. "The disclosure to Klippenstein was prohibited by law."

 

[Total Annihilation]

Saw this (A) on reddit (forgive me for being a mobile fag and not archiving the video).

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

It's not just a glider at perfect 12? Looks like the "landing gear" could just be the wheels.

It's Hamas!

Most of the videos posted there don't even demonstrate any of the 5-6 observables, except maybe "Positive lift contrary to known aerodynamic principles" because you can't see them clearly enough.

See above comment for Grusch's lawsuit.

 

[fukefacedog]

PBS Space Time just did an excellent little video on the recent Microtubule Architecture Research. Using my spiffy custom kiwifarm's 'fagDoS proof'™ encoder I edited the video down for relevance:

9:39

Source: https://youtu.be/xa2Kpkksf3k

Paper [Archive]

...​

PBS Space Time is an excellent channel, btw, highly recommend.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Liberation Times: Political Volatility Brings Uncertainty and Potential for UFO Disclosure (archive) - Hopium, but details a lot of competing interests, such as the Peter Thiel camp.

As a result, the White House may show stronger resolve. If advanced non-human intelligence and the reality of legacy programs are confirmed, it would cement Biden’s historical legacy.

In the latest Lue Elizondo book leak news, he definitely believes himself to be a victim of the "hitchhiker effect":

https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1eck4l7/lue_elizondo_experienced_visiting_orbs_multiple/?limit=500

Google Books disabled the preview, so these page leaks should dry up until release.


It has been 1 year since the Congressional UAP hearing. Happy anniversary, folx.

Ask a Pol: UAP Caucus Co-chair Luna: “We are for sure doing" UFO hearing this fall led by new, female chair (archive) (Reddit)

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

The Grusch lolsuit(?) is attached:

https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1ef8w4g/full_civil_legal_complaint_filed_by_uap/

https://x.com/SignalsIntelUFO/status/1818008400846061647

https://docs.uaprw.com/share/5OSjE3DwMfL9WmMc1aAjyx7f0qvAmXx3iZCDl1tG23I1rYYAnx

The lawyer, Anthony Shin:

https://shinlawoffice.com/

Newsweek: Chinese Students Arrested Over Drone Footage of U.S. Aircraft Carrier (archive) (Reddit)

The Debrief: Scientists Propose Clever New Strategy for Spotting Alien Warp Drives That May Be Lurking in the Cosmos (archive) (Reddit)

Spoiler: Sperg

Forbidden Science is Fucking Revelatory

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

New Sol Foundation paper just dropped. This time it's on the Redditors' favorite subject... religion. By Paul Thigpen:
VOL. 1 NO. 5 JULY 2024 - NHI, UAP, and the Catholic Faith: How Will the Church Respond? (archive) (PDF attached) (Reddit)

Centuries ago, visionary Catholic thinkers were far ahead of their time in thinking deeply about NHI and other cosmic matters. Today, the Church has the opportunity again to demonstrate global leadership in searching for more of the truth about the greatness of God’s creation, and learning to live in accordance with whatever discoveries we may make. Will we take up that challenge? If so, we will need to proceed with a sense of wonder—an attitude of humility in the face of mystery.

The Black Vault: Unreleased FBI Documents Shed Light on Lt. Col. Philip Corso’s Controversial Claims (archive) (Reddit)

These files focus on Corso’s broader activities and make no mention of his famous UFO claims.

Corso’s history includes making bold, often unsupported claims, which raises questions about his credibility.

It is unclear which government agency labeled Corso a “parasite”.

Spoiler: 13m39s Ross Coulthart / NewsNation Reality Check video about David Grusch's lawsuit

https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1egv0do/ross_coulthart_dave_gruschs_health_records_that/

Also:

https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1eh46td/ross_coulthart_interviews_scientist_dr_jim_segala/

The Debrief: Academics Unite to Bring Humanities to the Study of Aerial Mysteries at Society for UAP Studies Event (archive) (Reddit) - It's about the Society for UAP Studies (archive).

Reddit:
The Spectator releases a ridiculous article claiming that the 2017 NYT article, all the unresolved Navy videos, Dave Grusch, Schumer's UAPDA and the entire current push for disclosure is now over because Lue Elizondo talked about Blue Orbs and Remote Viewing in the leaked portions of his book.

Spoiler

The Spectator: Aliens exist? Prove it (archive)

New IAA amendment with revised UAP language proposed by Marco Rubio and Mark Warner.

 

[Haramburger]

The aliens are PMing me now.

Can anyone decipher this?

looks Vy'Keen, something about you being a cowardly interloper. Skip back and forth between system stations a few times asking everyone for dialect help and you should get a full translation in a couple hours.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Liberation Times: UK Government Confirms Two Officials Attended UFO Meeting With International Allies In 2023 (archive) (Reddit)

The United Kingdom’s Ministry of Defence (MOD) has confirmed that two of its officials attended a Five Eyes (FVEY) forum dedicated to Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) on 24 May 2023, despite claiming that it no longer investigates the topic.

UAP Brazil: Brazilian National Archives Releases new batch of UAP Documents (archive) (Reddit) (Google Drive)

Spoiler: UAPDA stuff

Another Senate Intel Committee member Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-NM) just co-sponsored the Rounds-Schumer UAP Disclosure Act of 2024! Here's what he had to say in 2021 about UAPs: "I can't imagine that what has been described or shown in some of the videos belongs to any government that I'm aware of".

Ask a Pol: Sen. Rounds: "We’ve got a shot at" getting new UAPDA in NDAA — but it depends on House Intel (archive) (Reddit)

Who gutted Schumer’s UAPDA last year?​

​

Who in the House are you negotiating with on the new UAPDA, Intel or Armed Services?

“Well, both,” Rounds says, “But Intel’s got a big part of it.”

Of the UAPDA?

“They did last year,” Rounds (finally!!!!!) admits to Ask a Pol.*

*Ask a Pol’s takeaway:

The Top Democrat on HPSCI, Rep. Jim Himes, is either so indifferent to all things UAPs that he’s cut out of the conversations, which would mean House Intel Chair Mike Turner is in the driver’s seat.

Or Himes repeatedly lied to our — and thus your! — face…

Disclosure Party: "New comments from Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD) suggest that ranking HPSCI member, Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT), is either being excluded from the NDAA negotiations for the UAP Disclosure Act or has made false statements to reporter Matt Laslo."

These are the four politicians who blocked UFO disclosure last year and will attempt to block it again this year. From left to right - Mike Turner, Mike Rogers, Mike Johnson and Jim Himes.

I believe Speaker Mike Johnson's involvement in the issue isn't as clear, but it's more fun to finger THREE MIKES.

Spoiler: Retard Alert!

Massive Advancement in Titanium Sapphire Lasers

There have been many massive advancements in laser technology since the L.A.S.E.R. was invented (following the earlier invention of the M.A.S.E.R.). If you hear styropyro talk about it, the lasers being practically thrown away on ebay have become unimaginably powerful.

Roswell Daily Record: Turn the page, stop doom-scrolling and get active for UAP truth (archive) (Reddit)

Ross coulthart buried ufo seed vault connection?

Before wikileaks released all the cia files, they posted all the cryptic vault 7 tweets in 2017. The very first picture was of the norway seed vault. Ross said its quite clever what they did. On google maps the nearby area looks interesting to say the least.. connection?

NewsNation: Aliens may be future humans: ‘Reality Check with Ross Coulthart’ (archive) - Scraping the bottom of the barrel. They durka durr. I watched the episode with this guy and it's a weird one. He says he met people who were used as conduits for the aliens to communicate telepathically with him.

Update on my interview with Ross Coulthart. (archive) - /u/lastofthefinest

4Chan Bermuda Debunk provided by the US Navy (archive)

Luis Elizondo - Imminent is currently #1 Best in United States History

https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/audible/18573540011/

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/dKfoM

It's Audible audiobooks. Get very specific about categorization and it's easier to find a #1 win like this. A small surge in sales can also something to the top briefly.

Audiobook was #11 in Amazon Best Sellers (History), Kindle edition was #46 (these jumped around a little when I archived): https://archive.ph/49c5G

Just two weeks to go.

 

[fukefacedog]

looks Vy'Keen, something about you being a cowardly interloper. Skip back and forth between system stations a few times asking everyone for dialect help and you should get a full translation in a couple hours.

I prefer Elite tbh

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

The Loudoun County Sheriff is seeking the dismissal of a lawsuit filed against him by David Grusch (PDF attached)

NYT: F.B.I. Seizes Republican Lawmaker’s Phone Amid Scrutiny Over Loan (archive) - Andy Ogles is part of the UAP Caucus.

The Black Vault: Project Blue Book: Ramstein Air Force Base UFO Encounter, March 26, 1962 (Unidentified) (archive) (Reddit) - Published in 2020.

The Hill: Why is the Pentagon’s UFO office so clueless about UFOs? (archive) (Reddit) - Another Marik von Rennenkampff op-ed, incorporating parts of his interview with Sean Kirkpatrick.

Daniel Sheehan drops some crazy new info on the legacy UAP program, the new Whistleblower bill, alien agenda, joint military UFO operations, and more in latest Twitter session with Tom Thomson of CortexZero channel & others

Spoiler: Reddit Summary

Ta treść jest prywatna.

https://x.com/LueElizondo/status/1821304548172165336 (Reddit)

Spoiler: Book trailer for Lue Elizondo's IMMINENT

0:32

Ask a Pol: Moskowitz says #1 question he's asked campaigning in 2024: ‘Hey, what's going on with UAPs?’ (archive) (Reddit)

Spoiler: Extra

Profiling Michael Herrera's Insider: an investigation with serious implications for UAP disclosure. Also, introducing The Zephyr Nexus, a cross-disciplinary collective of open-minded but rigorous researchers. (archive)

Got no attention at all so far, but all pages on the "Zephyr Nexus" website are archived.

Eric Davis' opinion of Bob Lazar and his claims.


I’ve seen one, I was wrong. Dungeness, August 6th, mid morning.

KPNX: Did a UFO crash in Kingman? Leaked documents claim it did. (archive) (Reddit)

 

[fukefacedog]

I'm in the bathroom, and the movement is Imminent™

Get ready everyone. Lue Elizondo is about to prove to the entire world that the aliens are real.

I haven't wasted my time following this.

I'm not a fuck up. My grandma was wrong.

The aliens are real... and they're here for me.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

I'm in the bathroom, and the movement is Imminent™

Get ready everyone. Lue Elizondo is about to prove to the entire world that the aliens are real.

I haven't wasted my time following this.

I'm not a fuck up. My grandma was wrong.

The aliens are real... and they're here for me.

I will be reading the whole ass book as soon as I can pirate it, and writing up a 500 point summary. DM me if you snag a copy before I can. If I can't find it immediately on the usual sites like Anna's Archive, maybe a Redditor or Metabunk user will cough up a link briefly before getting jannied.

From the leaks we did see, I expect there will be very little evidence but at least some lulz. We may learn exactly who believes UAPs are demons, and why they want our precious fluids. The title suggests we may learn more about the time frame for Disclosure™. It better not be scheduled for 2035.

Spoiler: John Burroughs comes forward with new info

I mentioned John Burroughs here, back in May.

Posted by /u/Special_Use6921, a reporter for Roswell Daily Record:

https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1epdnfi/john_burroughs_comes_forward_with_new_info/ (archive)
The following statement and images are from John Burroughs. Please look at all the images.

“Toby is correct. NewsNation reached out to me about my documents for an upcoming piece on military Injuries. The TV series Unidentified wanted the documents after reviewing them during the production shoot they conducted. I declined. Netflix recently featured my case on an episode of the new show, “Files of the Unexplained” in which Chris Mellon confirmed that my military records were classified. I also was contacted by the AARO Committee to appear in front of them and meet with part of the Gang of 8. I declined! Toby wrote an article on that after viewing the emails exchanged (linked below) .

Lou Elizondo talks about my settlement in his upcoming book along with George Knapp on his podcast and Garry Nolan on Tucker Carlson. The reason why I’ve held back documents is simple; none of these shows wanted to fill in all the blanks on what took place to receive my settlement. Files of the Unexplained came the closest. A lot of good people helped me, and the entire story needs to be told when I release the documents as this is a complicated matter. It’s time to do that. Shortly a video production will be released covering It all to Include the supporting evidence. Toby will also be writing an article on the documents. I understand your frustration with the way things have proceeded since Dec of 2017. I hope this upcoming video will help clear up what happened to me and one other person who received a rating for the Injuries we received during the Rendlesham Forest Incident! John Burroughs 8-10-2024”

Article ====> https://www.rdrnews.com/news/nation...cle_22fde1e0-eac0-11ed-bb5f-a3db8e1a9427.html [archive]

[TMSRS: I unquoted the text because I got the broken blockquote in spoiler block bug]

Spoiler: The Good Trouble Show with Matt Ford

Matt Ford went on a one month hiatus due to breaking his multi-thousand dollar desktop computer, causing him to cancel three interviews, and then leaving home to work in lighting production for Penn & Teller's Vegas show (ironic?). A generous unnamed viewer gave him $3,000 to build a replacement PC, among other donators. He goes on to boomer the audio in clips he plays, but it is a test stream.

Matt Ford spends almost an hour bitching about Mick West and Steven Greenstreet, before moving on to Sean Kirkpatrick, the Grusch lawsuit, the UAPDA, Presidential SAPs, and an AMA portion.

You can see from chat and Reddit that at least a small portion of the audience is being put off by the frequent personal attacks and long-winded ranting.

Edit: The original is also privated, but I think that's part of his standard operating procedure for dealing with audio problems.

Spoiler: Grab bag of stuff from Reddit

Chris Mellon says a cluster of smaller UAPs were accompanying the Gimbal at the time of the encounter, these smaller UAPs dispersed when the Navy F-18s arrived, and then rejoined the Gimbal object when the Navy fighters departed.

https://x.com/ChrisKMellon/status/1821554753199112609

I share the concerns expressed here regarding Dr. Kirkpatrick’s assessments of the UAP videos taken by US Navy aviators that appeared on the front page of the NYT on December 16th, 2022. And if the Gimbal object had been a balloon somehow resisting hurricane-force winds, what about the cluster of smaller UAPs that were accompanying it, dispersed when the Navy F-18s arrived, and rejoined the Gimbal object when the Navy fighters departed?

Beatriz Villarroel of VASCO, ExoProbe and SOL, along with UFO researcher Courtney Marchesani tweeted about Amy Eskridge (1987 - 2022), chair and founder of The Institute for Exotic Science in Huntsville, AL, who mysteriously died--and that she may have contacted David Grusch and come up in Congress.

https://x.com/DrBeaVillarroel/status/1821840665182908662

Amy Eskridge’s death represents a really tragic case and a huge loss. It also points on a serious problem for researchers working climate. As far as I understand, some professional scientists working with the UFO question are worried about or experience ”approaches”. None will talk about it in public — some stigmas are just insuperable. https://youtube.com/watch?v=GX_N66qqRt4

"AIR FORCE REVEALS CENSORSHIP CONTROLS" of UFOs: found by Richard Geldreich. Evidence of US military orders to lie to the United States Congress?


Uh…this is a weirdly specific date

Saw this on Instagram — now granted I don’t think you can put much stock in this sorta thing. And I’m sure it’s more of a joke…but stranger things have happened.

Also seeing that Knapp was at a Jane’s Addiction show is weird…

A lot of attention currently in the community around the 1953 Kingman, AZ UFO landing and recovery. Chris Mellon, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence in the Clinton and Bush administrations, revealed text messages with a senior official seemingly confirming this recovery.

 

[GradeAGobbleDeeGook]

I will be reading the whole ass book as soon as I can pirate it, and writing up a 500 point summary. DM me if you snag a copy before I can. If I can't find it immediately on the usual sites like Anna's Archive, maybe a Redditor or Metabunk user will cough up a link briefly before getting jannied.

you are doing gods work
in Lues book pay close attention to any mentions of "hostile witnesses"
or
people "deep in the legacy program" who dont want to come forward/dont believe there is adequate protections for whistleblowers

these 2 types of people are who they are saying have all the "first hand" goods everybody else is referring to, and that they are held by the "bosses"
this is mostly said by people like Danny Sheehan and Ross Coulthart so they arent to be immediately trusted, but keep an eye out for that kind of thing in his book
any kind of "X person has first hand proof, but he wont come forward because hes afraid" or "this guy is a real gov-man and would never reveal what he knows"

 

[fukefacedog]

I don't want to commit too strongly since time is a factor but my plan is to get the audiobook and post clips because he is narrating it in his own voice, which I find rather compelling.

I think there is an additional layer of intention gained when you can hear the writer speak their own words in their own voice.

We'll all have to be careful to not violate copyright of course.

 

[Otterly]

Microtubule Architecture Research

This is pretty interesting. I’ll watch the vid later if I can find time, is it to go with the Orch-OR consciousness stuff? ( roger Penrose theorised that micro tubules are the exact inner diameter to bridge the quantum realm to the macro and that consciousness could arise as a consequence of the collapse of quantum suppositions with them…basically that mucrotubules can act as quantum processors…) ?