Official Kiwifarms Edgy Atheist Thread - where we make fun of all sorts of sky daddy believers

which ones are the worst?

  • christards

  • muzzies

  • foreskin munchers

  • pagans

  • cow worshippers

  • self-hating atheists ("I rEsPeCt ReLiGiOuS pEoPlE")

  • other


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Last I checked, the thread ia bout shitheel atheists and troons, marxists, vegans, cannibals, and that whole bunch of other shit are prime examples of what atheism manufactures.
Woe is me. Cock fan #1 says he's genetically predisposed to suck cock. Where did you find your gay gene anyway?
Cap, I'm not any flavor of rainbow, and I agree with you that transwomen are men. I'm your friend.

As a friend, I want to pick your brains on this in for a sec. Do you think the rainbow squad is just fake, made up BS? That people aren't actually gay, bi, etc.? Do you think troons are just faking a mental illness they don't actually have because gender dysphoria is hocus pocus pseudoscience? Honest questions.
 
Atheism has nothing on Nihilism. If Atheism was Heroin Nihilism would be Fentanyl.

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I hated going to church as a child but the older I get the more I see a need for some form of belief in a deity with a clear moral compass, if nothing else than society's benefit I spent a lot of years being a complete nihilist and for lack of a better term sociopath. All these religions with the exception of the most orthodox and Islam have evolved to retain membership and function in the current day and age. Frankly they wouldn't exist in the western world if the adhered to Leviticus but, I'm not Christian so I don't need to care what is considered dogmatic and what written is a moral representation as opposed to a literal interpretation. That is up for the the individual to decide.

Leviticus could be construed as being in opposition to the original definition of sodomy as in sex without the purpose of procreation, not necessarily meaning a homosexual act is bad but further reinforcement the sodomy in the original definition is a sin. That being said any perverted/deviant act that happens between a married man and women I have yet to hear any preacher denounce or even discourage.

I think I should mention the heart of atheism is the rejection a holy intelligent designer created the universe and life, something science is yet to fully explain beyond vague theories. And before someone chimes in with science is repeatable and and be demonstrated; every 10 years half the shit in a HS natural science books need to be rewritten, updated or just thrown out.
 
Cap, I'm not any flavor of rainbow, and I agree with you that transwomen are men. I'm your friend.
Not too close of a 'friend', I hope.
As a friend, I want to pick your brains on this in for a sec. Do you think the rainbow squad is just fake, made up BS? That people aren't actually gay, bi, etc.? Do you think troons are just faking a mental illness they don't actually have because gender dysphoria is just hocus pocus pseudoscience? Honest questions.
Oh no. I see the gays, bis, trans, bitrans, transbis, pedoerotics, zoo enjoyers, necro fans and any kind of other sexual degeneracy as very real. I also admit that schizophrenia and insanity are real. Heck, it very much might be genetically predisposed. It ain't normal though. It is literally a sickness, which can be and should be labeled as such and treated as well. The real dangerous part is that it should not be something done by force, lest the state would gain too much power over the very concept of normalcy. But these days, thanks to atheism, insanity is rampant and any wacko can label his illnesses as both a mark of diversity and victim hood. Bar that this gives free reign for loonie people to act loonie out in the open, it also builds up resentment and anger from normal people, who still are and always will be a majority, and eventually that will lead to really bad shit for everyone.
From a Christian perspective, there is nothing unusual with having bizarre thoughts or attractions in your messed up head, but under no circumstances should one act on them, let alone build their whole identity around it. Using the same quack paradigm as the LGBTQball people use to celebrate their faggotry, you can and no doubt will eventually see movements celebrating child molestation, cannibalism, slavery, any kind of sick shit you can think of. There is no limit to human depravity, even atheists could agree to that. Difference is, the atheist subjective ideology cannot defend itself against any of that, while a theist ideology can, because atheism for some fucking reason assumes the inherent 'goodness' of human nature, while Christians specifically say we are messed up and need to be cautious.
 
No they don't. Some do, but the overwhelming majority are cringe fedora tippers and I am not exaggerating.
There are assholes in every community. To even call it a community is cringe, just like that early movement in new Atheism to call themselves 'Brights'. It's not a special club, you just don't believe in God(s). It doesn't bar you from being a retard in other matters.
Biblical stories do not only have value, they provided value for the entire western civilization for centuries are are still a haven of actual rationality today.
It's a stepping stone to a better society, but post Enlightenment it's got very little moral value to add. This is the same argument Muslims make about the 'Golden Age' of Islam, whilst discounting the centuries of suppression, subjugation, and conquest that led to a cultural regression which that part of the world has never properly recovered from.
The Christian Church does not "pick" its morals. It has lived by the same creeds for 2000 years. The Church adapts to issues of the times, its tradition evolves, but the morals are always the same.
I'm saying its a product of its time morally speaking. The bad side is just conveniently absent from sermons and general practice because it can't be defended.
Every single fool who says that objective morality is not a factor in a society, go to Pakistan, go no North Korea or rural China and witness the results of supermarket morality.
Conveniently skipping over several secular countries here, all of which are religiously pluralistic. Pakistan operates under the Sharia. They have no separation of religion from the state. Their societal morals are religiously prescribed. North Korea is a despotic state with mandated worship of a political head of state. It's a dictatorship. China is running on a socialist mandate and has a huge number of problems that go far beyond anything that Christian morality and the golden rule could address.
Then you have no say against child marriage, cannibalism, eating of the stool, revenge killings, acts of terror, genocide, chemical warfare, slaughter of innocents, serial killing or anything at all, since every horror imaginable is found in nature and a lot of it has no intrinsic purpose of preserving life, but is a result of pure animal savagery, which the atheist wants to treat as a rational way of living, while the theist will say God made us to not be savages, but something more.
Again, I'm not saying this is the best method but every single one of those examples are covered by the "optimize for the well-being of conscious creatures" approach, and some examples you gave are Biblically endorsed at times. God made us not be savages, but quite enjoys the occasional human/animal sacrifice, ethnic cleansing, and genocide. Christianity is not the worst in this area, sure. But this is what I mean by picking and choosing.
For the vast majority of people life is very hard and a stable moral founding is the most vital thing for humanity to function properly.
Agreed on the first part. All I'm saying is you don't need to believe in God, or the Bible, to live in a moral way. This is evidenced by a rise in irreligion not corresponding to a rise in violence, rape, or other morally questionable acts.
Must've been useful for him to justify his cheating in exams and buying a degree with daddy money.
Receipts please. Not heard about any of this but even if it were true, it doesn't disprove any of his positions.
There is no space for an argument about God's existence with modern atheism. It has failed so hard that it's just not practical in basic adaptation.
Not sure what you mean here. There is space, but it's a task for philosophers who want to get into the weeds of ontological arguments and specific methods of argumentation that most people don't consider important in their day-to-day. People discount bad ideas with poor evidence. We do it all the time. You do it for every other religion. Post Enlightenment societies have driven society forward and religion has been playing catch up ever since. If you want to argue that they got the ball rolling, then fine. But you also have to acknowledge that they have consistently tried to slow or prevent its progress too.

Thread tax. An interesting 'debate' on the truth of the Bible. These sorts of discussions are better. The debate format of back and forth statements and rebuttals don't actually allow people to have a proper discussion. Plus in the debates people just tune into their side and ignore the opposition most of the time.
 
@CAPTAIN MATI Got it.

You're basically asserting that Christianity is an effective bulwark against wokeness, and while I'm no fan of wokeness myself, Christianity is far worse as proven by its track record and the bible itself.

In my view, gender dysphoria should be treated as a mental illness not because it's "unnatural", but because it's a mind-body disconnect that creates a lot of suffering. Lesbians, gays, and bi's are merely a deviation from the norm, which shouldn't be an offense on its own. Suppressed biological urges inevitably turn into ticking time bombs, but sometimes it's a harmful urge and we're left with no other choice but to intervene. These are the complex problems we have to deal with, that no magic book has any realistic solutions for. The human condition (for lack of a better term) doesn't care if you have a sky father, or don't.

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No worries man, this is a chill, off-topic thread, no tax, no jannies, barely any rules, we just smoke weed n' shiet wooo
 
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@CAPTAIN MATI Got it.

You're basically asserting that Christianity is an effective bulwark against wokeness, and while I'm no fan of wokeness myself, Christianity is far worse as proven by its track record and the bible itself.
Track record of what? Building western civilization, establishing human rights, running countless charity networks and being the last bastions of reason?
In my view, gender dysphoria should be treated as a mental illness not because it's "unnatural", but because it's a mind-body disconnect
Which is unnatural.
that creates a lot of suffering. Lesbians, gays, and bi's are simply a deviation from the norm, which shouldn't be an offense on its own.
I can grant you this. Christians are told not to judge, as in, not to ever judge anything at all, but to not be judgemental and feed ones own pride that way. If certain individuals feel so strong about living a depraved life, within the confines of each others' consent, the very least practical thing to do is leave them be and spend precious time on something productive than hating the gays most of the day and achieving nothing by it.
But there is no way on Earth anything could convince me that even mere homosexuality is not harmful. I look at the gay community the same way as I look at say polygamists, regardless of their preference. In my eyes both pervert sexuality to the detriment of themselves. But that's their own business.
Suppressed biological urges inevitably turn into ticking time bombs,
Key word being suppressed. If you ignore those urges instead of facing them and putting in effort to "beat" them, you're doing yourself wrong, because these urges will not stop and the deeper you indulge, the worse it is going to be. It's a massive human problem and in today's porn world it has become a really messed up issue, because now it has begun to involve kids. That shit is unacceptable.
but sometimes it's a harmful urge and we're left with no other choice but to intervene. These are the complex problems we have to deal with that no magic book has any realistic solutions for.
As a Christian myself, I disagree. The depth of the Bible's wisdom can help, because it's whole deal is explaining the nature of sin and dealing with it, accepting it in repentance, fighting it and defeating it through Christ. You are absolutely right that it is a very complex problem, but that is why we need unity and wisdom to deal with it.
Atheists have none. They're too bussy bashing the sky daddy crowd instead of doing fuck all to actually improve society, which they are instead blindly damaging further into degeneracy with their apologetics for radical subjectivity nonsense.
The human condition (for lack of a better term) doesn't care if you have a sky father or not.
Yes it does and the countless examples of the worst kind of people from criminals, psychos, depressed and suicidal people who came to Christ often time through radical means with radical changes show that Christianity specifically is a massive boost to people in need for purpose and relationship.

I'll also say this. I understand the skeptic mind, I know that the miraculous and supernatural, especially today, is a very hard sell and of course not everyone can accept that there is something higher. I get that. But I will never accept the absolute shit that the atheist community as a whole offers its followers, which is nothing but despair and meaninglessness wrapped in a ribbon of snark and dryness. Marx said that religion is an opium for the masses and to an extent he was right, though much less opium and more so medicine. Meanwhile atheism is just a dirty, smelly used bandage on a self inflicted wound.
 
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Good question. I've struggled to find any good ones for a while now. The ex-Muslim side of Youtube isn't too bad, but they're more anti-Islam than they are about atheism.

@CAPTAIN MATI
Cap, if you think a lesbian can just "ignore" her inclinations and become your tradwife, you're basically demonstrating why your magic book has no solutions. Your entire moral system boils down to following an instruction manual, which is why it's unfit to survive. It's unethical to try and force members of a species as diverse as ours to all fit the same mold. The secular society we have now, in spite of all its flaws, is far superior to any Christian society that ever existed.
 
Good question. I've struggled to find any good ones for a while now. The ex-Muslim side of Youtube isn't too bad, but they're more anti-Islam than they are about atheism.
I seem to remember an ex-Muslim chick with a really nice voice with the pseudonym Nice Mangos or something similar being quite good, then she got weirdly pro-people who wanted to kill her and anti-white people who didn’t want to kill her around Trump time. I’ll have a look though as ex-Muslims tend to be pretty based.
 
Cap, if you think a lesbian can just "ignore" her inclinations and become your tradwife, you're basically demonstrating why your magic book has no solutions.
I don't need a lesbian tradwife nor does a lesbian need to become one. Maybe she'll never get rid of her inclinations, but at least she can put up a fight. She can at least not indulge in it. And let me tell you what, the less you indulge on your urges, the easier it becomes and that garbage does not control you. If you can't fight them early one, with age it becomes much easier regardless.
And even if said lesbian just simply cannot beat her inclinations because of weakness or childhood trauma, if she does indulge, she has no dignified reason to shout her bullshit feminits liberalsim for everyone to obey her whim and celebrate her spinelessness.
And a lesbian's a lesbian. That's not that bad. What would she say to someone who has delusions of killing people? What would she say to a serial killer rapist who gets the same sexual inclinations as the lesbian does with another lesbian? What right does she have to deny someone else their pleasure? In atheism she does not have jack shit, even if the psycho has to harm someone else, while a lesbian only harms her own sovereign soul. But might makes right in atheism.
Your entire moral system boils down to following an instruction manual,
As is every single moral system. If human nature was in tune to order and rationality, the very concept of morals would not exist. We'd be like cats. We'd just do thinks and our conscience would be clear, but it doesn't work that way.
which is why it's unfit to survive.
Excuse me. Christians have been mauled by lions, burned, crucified, slaughtered like cattle from day 1 and still Christianity has managed to survive, thrive, build world conquering Empires and form a culture unmatched by anything in human history.
How many atheist regimes managed to achieve half as much? Bar the tens of millions genocided just to establish any atheist power to begin with.
It's unethical to try and force members of a species as diverse as ours to all fit the same mold.
It's unethical to accept any indulgence of human carnal nature as equal to basic rights of human equality. It's the secular who want to boil everyone down into some dumb mass of unrecognizable, gray people like in some commie fever dream. Christianity defies cultural differences. Every continent has their own diverse groups of Christians with very rich histories and cultural differences, but they still all follow the same Biblical basis.
Go to atheist China and you'll see the exact same cultural destruction, poverty and fearful submission as you would have seen in the Soviet union. The later one of which I am well aware of since I saw and lived it.
The secular society we have now, in spite of all its flaws, is far superior to any Christian society that ever existed.
My slow minded friend. Let me reiterate myself.
IT IS BECAUSE OF SECULAR SOCIETY THE WORLD IS IN UTTER GARBAGE.
Bar all the troons, fags, gays and their lunacy, we have wars being waged and a possible new world war on our hands, because secularized governments are too stupid and spineless to deal with authocrat satanists and atheistic dictatorships properly. Poverty and inequality are spreading, because a bunch of entitled shithead environmentalists are force implementing green energy bullshit that fucks up manufacturing, increases pollution and loses people their livelihoods. Corruption is at an all time high, because secularist amoralists don't know how to deal with middle and far eastern oligarchs who fool them into forcing radical leftism on the West, while in the east these same oligarchs are literally slaughtering their own people for sport.
And the funniest part is, secular atheists have nothing to complain about. It's all just a mater of perspective breh. Nothing matters in the grand game of space dust breh. Then these same spoiled fools continue to live off of what remains of the long lost Christian age, be it morals, culture or the few scraps of wealth.
 
@CAPTAIN MATI Cap I implore you to grab a beer and calm down, you're hallucinating. You're blaming every single western problem on atheism/secularism and pushing Christianity as the solution, when in reality, things were much worse back in "Christian" times. Given how much information is easily available now, it's easy to convince yourself that everything is bleak, but it doesn't change the fact that we're still living in the best time in human history. Just chill out my nigga.
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@CAPTAIN MATI Cap I implore you to grab a beer and calm down, you're hallucinating.
I'll grab the beer. But I am not calming down. Ever.
You're blaming every single western problem on atheism/secularism
Yes. That's because it's their fault.
and pushing Christianity as the solution,
Yes. because it worked in the past and it will work in the future.
when in reality, things were much worse back in "Christian" times. Given how much information is easily available now, it's easy to convince yourself that everything is bleak, but it doesn't change the fact that we're still living in the best time in human history. Just chill out my nigga.
Life was hard. It wasn't bleak. My parents and grandparents grew up in absolute shit tier rural poverty because the Russians robbed everyone blind. And yet still they were the toughest, smartest, in many ways kindest and honest people I have ever known with very many friends and family around them, with experiences though hardship and all kinds of stuff that today's pussy youth lack, both in real life experience and human relationships. Many of the old folks were also devout Christians, even under the Soviets who casually brutalized believers, because muh sky daddy lool yolo
Today, wherever there's secular atheistic rule, people are depressed, poor, suicidal, drug addicted, don't find meaning in life, are stupid leftists and generally unpleasant. Of course, there are all kinds of Christian communities too, but even the worse off ones have people build of sterner stuff with a better outlook on life that the hedonist atheists.
 
Are there any atheist/skeptic podcasts still worth listening to? All the ones I listed to list their mind when Trump got elected.
There aren't really any regular decent ones. It depends on what you're interested in.
  • Alex O'Connor — Less of a podcast, but if you are into philosophy and 'sit down discussions' with a variety of guests (including some big names) then his channel might be worth a look. I dip in occasionally if he's interviewing someone interesting. He managed to get Jordan Peterson to clarify his positions in a recent interview.
  • Apostate Prophet — An ex-Muslim YouTuber who does regular live streams with Dr David Wood, a Christian apologist and YouTuber. Some interesting discussions, but most of their recent content has been on the Israel-Hamas conflict.
I sometimes listen to the Michael Shermer Show—mainly because of his content on conspiracy theories—but he's definitely in the smarmy category. The same goes for Sam Harris, he interviews some interesting people, but he's well on his way into the Trump derangement camp.

It's a mixed bag. Pick and mix the occasional episode would be my suggestion.
 
I'll grab the beer. But I am not calming down. Ever.
Respect. Living up to your username is commendable.
Life was hard. It wasn't bleak. My parents and grandparents grew up in absolute shit tier rural poverty because the Russians robbed everyone blind. And yet still they were the toughest, smartest, in many ways kindest and honest people I have ever known with very many friends and family around them, with experiences though hardship and all kinds of stuff that today's pussy youth lack, both in real life experience and human relationships. Many of the old folks were also devout Christians, even under the Soviets who casually brutalized believers, because muh sky daddy lool yolo
Agreed. Some of the most headstrong, dependable people I know/knew grew up in Soviet Russia/USSR. They just get on with it, and if you say something they think is dumb they will straight up tell you as much. It seems like many young people in the West take its freedoms for granted. It probably doesn't help that they were all taught asymmetrically about the worst moments in their countries history. And very little of the achievements that made it great.
 
A lot of the degenerate things that Cap is blaming on lesbians is just humans having spare time and means. It used to be that people had nothing but work, now there is time to be an activist. time to do all sorts of degenerate things. ways to meet other degenerates. that's why this happens and becomes such a big deal.

I don't believe in any religions, nor do I think there's a creator that watches over us or intervenes in anything that happens, but I'm inclined to think we would be better off as humanity if people spent more time on the essentials. more time spent on making sure we lived in a healthy way, globally, amongst all of--dare i say it--God's creation, rather than tarnish it in the way that we have through over-consumption and short-sighted decision making. There are microplastics everywhere due to our carelessness, not to mention the myriad of other problems.

Maybe collective humanity can spend less time wigging out on pointless stuff--basically everything on TV and computers--and more time on the basics, but then get it right even if it takes more time. That's the sort of feeling I get when I see people complaining about a loss of traditional values or a desire for the world to be more religious, even if they express it in weird ways.

Not that I'm any better. I'm into all sorts of degeneracy because I have no future anyway.
 
Agreed. Some of the most headstrong, dependable people I know/knew grew up in Soviet Russia/USSR. They just get on with it, and if you say something they think is dumb they will straight up tell you as much. It seems like many young people in the West take its freedoms for granted. It probably doesn't help that they were all taught asymmetrically about the worst moments in their countries history. And very little of the achievements that made it great.
That is very spot on.
Where I grew up, a lot of history education was concentrated on recent history and how badly Eastern Europe got screwed by the Soviets and that's it. Bad stuff happened, be sad about it, nerd. No reflection on on how things got so bad, what were the mistakes and how to avoid them, just shock value and depression. Some more conspiratorial minded say it's on purposes, because although communism fell, its peons still lurk about and are actively trying to stagnate us rebels from moving on with our lives. Who knows.
Nowadays you got a reverse crowd, but with the same stagnating mindset. All these insignificant countries should cow down to the big European powers, have no identity and be happy about it. Maybe if the big European powers weren't so gay and corrupt, maybe that would work better. The Ukraine war opened a lot of eyes that maybe each of us are all alone and we better stick to our own closer than to someone farther away.
 
@CAPTAIN MATI
I know you're committed to the "atheism is the root of all evil" bit, Cap (which makes it sound kinda based, honestly), but I have to say you're wrong about atheists as people. For all your talk of "having seen shit", it was the internet that spoon-fed you a hyperbolic caricature of atheists wherein they're killer clowns in a sexual frenzy swinging around chainsaws powered by green energy. That, and you're mad at some Youtubers for being mean or something. The world is a lot bigger than that. Plenty of atheists are chill people you can have a beer or tea with.
 
@CAPTAIN MATI
I know you're committed to the "atheism is the root of all evil" bit, Cap (which makes it sound kinda based, honestly), but I have to say you're wrong about atheists as people. For all your talk of "having seen shit",
Atheists are as much people as any of us. It's the atheist ideology that I truly hate, not the people.
it was the internet that spoon-fed you a hyperbolic caricature of atheists wherein they're killer clowns in a sexual frenzy swinging around chainsaws powered by green energy.
Only atheists would think they're cool like that. Most of them are just dorks
That, and you're mad at some Youtubers for being mean or something. The world is a lot bigger than that. Plenty of atheists are chill people you can have a beer or tea with.
I know. One of my oldest friends is a militant atheist and trust me, I know how they think, bar from many other examples not locked down to youtube. You can say the reverse, but about Christians too. Some fake Christians, say like Nick Fuentes, are some of the most despicable retards imaginable. But yet again, it's the ideology to be judged on its own, not by any random fool saying that he follows this or that doctrine, even when if he's clearly going against the teachings he claims to profess.
 
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