Shy Hard 2: Shy Harder

[CatParty]

There are many, many reasons.

I think that the most important one is failure to acquire the necessary experience soon enough and that this is more important than anything else.
Other reasons could be looks, social anxiety, your surroundings, repressive family etc.

incel is not a real term. it does not exist. you are making things up for your own short comings.

 

[A-Stump]

Well, you could stop making excuses for yourself. You realize there's a problem; Do something about it.

 

[Venusaur]

I'll say repeat what I said on Reddit

Well, that's just splendid. Your whole argument is something like this "do everything for others and don't do anything for yourself". All the while you assholes will insult me, threaten me and judge me, while never having been through anything I've been. That's not how people work. If that's how people work we wouldn't have the police, security guards, anything. People want their best interests. And as heinous as it sounds and as much as it is completely unlikely to happen, raping somebody would be in my interest because I'd at least get sex.

If I condone rape you condone murder of incels by refusing to help them with their issues.

Man, you don't even know what it's like to be afraid that some asshole is going to try to rape you everytime you walk home from work. I had to live in a pretty rapey area for 5 years, and it got bad enough that our male friends were kind enough to escort us to our homes and cars. But that's just simply not your reality. Saying something like that shows you have no empathy, you can't phantom the damage that rape does to a person and you don't care. A lot of us can empathize with feelings of lonelines and frustration due to failed romantic attemps. But you? You think raping a girl is admisable? Wow.

 

[TL 611]

There are many, many reasons.

I think that the most important one is failure to acquire the necessary experience soon enough and that this is more important than anything else.
Other reasons could be looks, social anxiety, your surroundings, repressive family etc.

Therapy is a very good way of helping one sort out these external reasons - therapy is supposed to help relieve social anxiety, help you to feel more comfortable with people, etc.
I can understand it doesn't work for everyone, but surely the way of fixing your problems is to remove the external reason rather than just going "fuck it, Ill take sex seeing as I don't want to work on the reasons why I can't get it consentually."
The hierarchy chart you linked to listed self-actualisation as a requirement for happiness - knowing your flaws and aspiring to change them rather than just accepting them.
Also guys stop being so pedantic. If this guy wants to call himself incel then let him. It's always been synonymous with the CWCism "Virgin with Rage" to me anyway.

 

[wheat pasta]

Can I just say, this dude is like the Cole Smithey of loveshies. Srsly. His ego was so big I almost tripped over it trying to enter the thread.

 

[José Mourinho]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love-shyness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Love-shyness_(2nd_nomination)

It's official. The article's deleted months ago.

 

[Biped]

No, I don't feel entitled to them. You have no idea what entitlement means. Just because I have no choice and would take something if I could doesn't mean I think somebody owed me anything. If they did I'd sue them.

It has already been thoroughly explained to you that you do have a choice and that you absolutely do have entitlement issues. Anyway, what are you thinking that women with "crazy female entitlement" think is owed to them? Has anyone ever been sued for not giving it to them? You don't even seem to be using the word consistently.

Speaking of suing, you are certainly putting yourself in a position to get legitimately sued for the defamation that you gleefully boast about on that pathetic blog of yours.

 

[José Mourinho]

Sorry if this is mentioned, but here's something from fschmidt while browsing around for fun:

http://www.coalpha.org/Rape-and-Adultery-td7574977.html

Below is a very old post of mine. It is actually the first meaningful post I made on the internet, before I knew anything about incel or the men's movement. I am posting it now because I need to refer to it elsewhere. This post is very controversial, but since CoAlpha isn't very active right now, I see no harm in posting it here.



Why is rape a crime beyond just being assault? The answer is that it is an evolutionary crime against a woman to force her to have children with a man not of her choice. In evolutionary terms, our main purpose is to reproduce. The success of our genes is determined by how well we reproduce. For a woman, one of the most important things that she can control for reproduction is the choice of the man to have children with. To force her to have children with a man not of her choice causes extreme emotional pain precisely because it is so important in evolutionary terms.

Compare this to the rape of a man. If one thinks of a woman raping a man, it is almost comical because it is so meaningless. It is meaningless because it has no evolutionary impact, or may even have a slight positive impact for the man. Women can only have a limited number of children, so they must be selective in sex. Men can have an unlimited number of children, so men have no need to be selective in sex. A feminist may raise the issue of a man raping a man. But this is simply assault and nothing more. So the point is that rape is a crime against women, not men.

Now let's look at adultery. In ancient times, when the seventh commandment was written, adultery meant sex between a man and a married woman. Only in modern times has adultery included extramarital sex of husbands. Again, this makes sense in evolutionary terms. The crime of adultery is to cheat a man into raising children who aren't his. The basic concept of marriage is a contract where the woman pledges her sexual fidelity to guarantee that the children will be her husband's, and in return, the husband pledges to support the family. Adultery is a violation of this contract. Just as rape is an evolutionary crime again women, adultery is an evolutionary crime against men. And this is why men feel extreme emotional pain when cheated on, just as women feel pain when raped. The argument that condoms change this because they allow sex without reproduction misses the point that our feelings evolved before condoms existed. Adultery with a condom is just as painful for a husband as rape with a condom is for a woman.

Women today claim that extramarital sex is the same regardless of which gender does it. But this is nonsense. What women really want from men is commitment. In societies like ours, with unstable marriages, women are insecure and so they over-react to any sign of lack of commitment. Extramarital sex of a man is only meaningful as a proxy for lack of commitment. This is why wives constantly probe husbands about any kind of relationship the husband has with women, whether friendship or work-related or whatever. In contrast, a husband only really cares about whether his wife has sex with another man, and anything else is irrelevant. So the point is that adultery is really a crime against a husband, committed by his wife and another man.

I believe these two crimes are very similar. The analogy is: rape is to women what adultery is to men. How does our society handle these two crimes? Rape is severely punished, but adultery is not only legal, but is actually protected. Consider the mirror image of this, where adultery would be severely punished, but rape would not only be legal, but would be protected. In other words, in this mirror image society, resisting rape would be considered assault. This is analogous to a man who catches his wife in bed with another man, and attacks them and is then charged with assault. All the man was doing was resisting adultery. Of course such a mirror image society is unimaginable because men have a basic sense of decency that women lack, so we would never inflict such a society on women. But women have inflicted our feminist society on men. Historically, rape and adultery have been considered similar crimes. In some societies, rape was only punished with fines. And in many societies, a man had the right to attack, and even kill, another man who had sex with his wife.

Are either of these two crimes ever justified? Let's start with adultery. Imagine a society where divorce is illegal and a woman is married to a man who changed and became worthless and didn't have sex with her. I believe that adultery is justified in this case, primarily because she does not have the option to divorce. No one should ever be denied the opportunity to fulfill their basic evolutionary needs.

So now we can consider if rape is every justified. Imagine a society where prostitution is illegal and women constantly provoke men. Of course, there is no need to imagine this society, because it exists in the USA. A single man in this society is in a similar situation to the woman described above for whom adultery is justified. Single men in this society have no outlet for their evolutionary need for sex, so just as the married woman above was justified in adultery, men here are justified in rape. Banning prostitution harms men the way banning divorce harms women. If women don't want to be raped, they should push for legal prostitution and they should dress more modestly.

Nazi Germany serves as a benchmark of evil, but I think American women are worse. In Nazi Germany, the Nazis had to pick particularly sadistic members of society to operate the concentration camps. The only crime of the average German was to look the other way. If the average German had been forced to see the suffering of the Jews in the concentration camps, they probably would have had second thoughts. Compare this to American women. The average American woman not only tolerates the suffering of single men, but actively contributes to it with their provocative dress. If confronted by the suffering of single men caused by sexual deprivation, the likely reaction of American women would be to giggle. In Nazi Germany, most Germans were not active in torturing people, but in Feminazi America, most women are active in torturing men. I do not think such women deserve any sympathy if they are raped, any more than Nazis convicted of war crimes deserve sympathy if they were punished.

The rape of most American women is justified because there is no other legal means for many men to get sex in America. This is similar to the reason that I feel Robin Hood was justified in stealing from the rich. In England at the time, there was no social mobility, and the poor had no other way of getting enough money other than to steal. What is normally a crime becomes justified when alternative means of meeting a person's basic needs are denied.

But saying rape is justified is a weaker statement than saying American women deserve to be raped, so let me explain this. Is a starving person justified in stealing from a rich person? I think so. Does the rich person deserve to be stolen from? Not if the starving person's condition isn't the rich person's fault. In fact, in this case, the rich person would be justified in defending his property from the starving person. Here we have two people in conflict, each of whom is justified in his actions, and neither of whom deserves this conflict. But now let's look at the case where the starving person is starving because of actions by the rich person. In this case, not only is the starving person justified in stealing from the rich person, but the rich person deserves to be stolen from. This is why Robin Hood is remembered as a hero, because not only did he provide for the poor who were in need, but he also stole from the rich who were the cause of the poor people's poverty, and therefore who deserved to be stolen from.

My argument regarding rape is the same, just applied to sex as opposed to wealth. An American woman who dresses provocatively and opposes legal prostitution is a cause of sexual starvation among single men in America, and therefore, not only is her rape justified, but she deserves to be raped.

 

[Lunachu]

4. The fact I didn't kill her is an extremely bad thing because if I did I wouldn't have become a political incel with a potential do much more damage in the name of my politics. Since I have no way out it is very dangerous and it would be better if I did it.

Lol I love it.

You claim not killing her has made you more dangerous and so killing her would have been a good thing. Yet instead you could always kill ONLY yourself (the danger). Why should she have to die when the danger could be removed another way?

 

[Rio]

2. You claim I make threats. Threats are illegal, so report me or you're lying.



7. Your IP, location and pictures of you and your gf will be published for all to see.

Ok what? you realize your point 7 100% contradicts your point 2, right?

Not to mention that point 2 is complete bullshit anyway. If you murder someone, and the victim doesn't tell the police, it doesn't mean you didn't actually kill him.

 

[CatParty]

Satan, you're an idiot.

1. The reasons why my parents destroyed my life are well explained. You did nothing to counter them, you haven't even tried - you just insulted me and started diagnosing.

2. You claim I make threats. Threats are illegal, so report me or you're lying.

3. As I said, you're not a psychiatrist, you're just a lunatic loser.

4. The fact I didn't kill her is an extremely bad thing because if I did I wouldn't have become a political incel with a potential do much more damage in the name of my politics. Since I have no way out it is very dangerous and it would be better if I did it.

5. The idea that my blog, that started in 2012, has anything to do with how I was in 2007 is imbecilic.

6. I never said she deserves to be killed. Also, you mention time, which again proves you're an idiot - time can't have a healing effect if the situation is worsening, you moron.

7. Your IP, location and pictures of you and your gf will be published for all to see.

You see? You're not just a sicko ,you're also an idiot. The fact that idiots like you, with reading comprehensions of Tumblr SJWs, call themselves the Herrenvolk and want to have pathetic, sociopathic offspring with desperate third world trash is just too tragic.

what have you done to improve your life?

 

[BT 075]

Dude you just mad I had your precious little articles removed from wikipedia.
Because there is no such thing as "involuntary celibacy" or loveshyness. They are bullshit, non-existant terms.
It does not exist. Every single normal human being agrees. Deal with it.

 

[tib]

I'm a bit lost for words here...

No surprise there. You are a moron.

You say it is a bad and tragic thing you did not kill that woman, yet you also say she did not deserve to die.

And only a moron would think that these two have to go together.

I Also the fact that you claim you are capable of doing more potential damage in the name of your politics is laughable. You and me both know you don't have the cojones to do any lasting damage to anyone. You just whine behind your computer screen because you are too much of a coward to go out in the real world and get laid.

Of course, these are all insults and have nothing to do with each other, like creating damage or getting laid. My goal isn't to just get laid and I've already attempted blackmailing several women and doxxed them, so I'm not afraid to break the law in any way.

anyone with half a brain

So, not you then?

Ican see you are clearly a deranged and dangerous individual. I'm amazed you have not been committed

You're amazed because you don't care about psychiatry at all. You want to get rid of your enemies.

I after threatening to murder a girl,

That was no threat and the court declared it so. She never saw it at all. She wasn't the one who reported this and her name wasn't there.

Iiolently attacking your own fucking parents

The reasons why my parents are monstrous child abusers are well described have nothing to do with your insults. If you could counter those reasons you would. But you can't. Nobody can.

 

[CatParty]

No surprise there. You are a moron.



And only a moron would think that these two have to go together.



Of course, these are all insults and have nothing to do with each other, like creating damage or getting laid. My goal isn't to just get laid and I've already attempted blackmailing several women and doxxed them, so I'm not afraid to break the law in any way.



So, not you then?



You're amazed because you don't care about psychiatry at all. You want to get rid of your enemies.



That was no threat and the court declared it so. She never saw it at all. She wasn't the one who reported this and her name wasn't there.



The reasons why my parents are monstrous child abusers are well described have nothing to do with your insults.

so you are a rapist?

 

[tib]

so you are a rapist?

I don't remember ever raping anybody.

 

[CatParty]

I don't remember ever raping anybody.

but you condone it

 

[tib]

Lol I love it.

You claim not killing her has made you more dangerous and so killing her would have been a good thing. Yet instead you could always kill ONLY yourself (the danger). Why should she have to die when the danger could be removed another way?

The problem is that I don't want to kill myself. A political incel must send a strong message with his death. It was much better for society when I was obsessed with one woman, not incel. Sad, but what can you do? Nobody wants to help me.

but you condone it

What do you mean by condoning it? If by condoning it you mean that I think it should not be punished I don't condone it.

I don't think that saying how some people are driven into a position where they don't have much choice is condoning it. That's like saying that the fact that poor people are more likely to commit crimes means I'm condoning crime.

 

[Lunachu]

The problem is that I don't want to kill myself. A political incel must send a strong message with his death. It was much better for society when I was obsessed with one woman, not incel. Sad, but what can you do? Nobody wants to help me.

Oh dear, I was hoping for a more interesting response than "I'm a cowardly selfish asshole and think I'm more important than I actually am."

 

[Rio]

Of course, these are all insults and have nothing to do with each other, like creating damage or getting laid. My goal isn't to just get laid and I've already attempted blackmailing several women and doxxed them, so I'm not afraid to break the law in any way.

Yeah, uhh, and how is that a good thing? It just means you're a huge piece of shit who considers his own sex-drive more important than the fundamental human rights of women.

 

[Sexual Stallone]

What do you mean by condoning it? If by condoning it you mean that I think it should not be punished I don't condone it.

I don't think that saying how some people are driven into a position where they don't have much choice is condoning it. That's like saying that the fact that poor people are more likely to commit crimes means I'm condoning crime.

So if someone rapes you they shouldn't be punished?