What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

Not so much a conspiracy as a wild minority position in archaeology (and not so much that I believe it, more that I find it an interesting subject): Neanderthal was not a "human but with big brows" caveman as popularly depicted, but a highly intelligent, predatory great ape, adapted to the ice-age conditions of northern Europe, that hunted at night.

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Hitler didn't actually like all my posts
He liked all of mine. I feel dirty, somewhat, as one of my maternal great-great-grandmothers was Jewish. And, somehow, she had a loving marriage with a bloke who was Catholic. I know it isn't really Der Führer, or... or maybe... OY GEVALT! IT IS! HE'S BACK! THE THIRD REICH MANAGED TO UPLOAD THE FUCKER'S BRAINWAVES INTO A PROTO-SUPERCOMPUTER, AND NOW, NIGH ON EIGHTH YEARS LATER, HE'S IMMORTALISED ON THIS SITE... and maybe the dark web.

(Ahem!) Excuse me.

Making up motives and that don't exist, and then making people irrational and paranoid about them? Welcome to psychoanalysis! That's basically what the whole field is about.

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Yeah, like the exaggeration of ADHD. Those people don't have ADHD, they have ACD.
 
Even shoe companies know that children yearn for the mines.

Threadtax: predictive programming is everywhere and has been around a lot longer than people have been paying attention. A great example is the weather dominator from GI Joe. Back then the thought of machine that could control the weather sounded like crazy sci-fi technology. but not even 15 years after the original series ended its run, we get H.A.A.R.P.
To a lesser extent it even predicted the diversity push in the military, and how modern wars wouldn't be against a country, it would be against terrorist organizations that have a weirdly large amount of funding.
Let's just hope the whole thing with the snake people was just good fun, I don't want to have to fight a reptilian overlord.

Always hated the term predictive programming. I think propaganda priming is more accurate. The idea that they would slowly sprinkle some upcoming events/concepts into media to get people warm to the idea isn't crazy, but that they put words like Sandy Hook into Batman to signal the actual Sandy Hook shooting is too much.

For example. Out of no where anti-vaccine and flat earth suddenly popped into the media and was on everyone mind. Was it to get the message primed before conspiracy theories came back big and covid hit? Maybe?
 
Not so much a conspiracy as a wild minority position in archaeology (and not so much that I believe it, more that I find it an interesting subject): Neanderthal was not a "human but with big brows" caveman as popularly depicted, but a highly intelligent, predatory great ape, adapted to the ice-age conditions of northern Europe, that hunted at night.

Video on the topic:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mZbmywzGAVs
I thought this was the modern consensus?
 
I think the whole 3 meals a day/ breakfast is the most important meal mantra is a scheme to keep Americans fat as fuck. Skipping breakfast isn’t going to starve your fat ass to death or make you - a healthy first world citizen - become malnourished. Starvation mode is a fake news.

On the other hand, being sedentary and eating three 1000 calorie meals plus snacks and drinks, might just kill you.

I think nutritionists are morons and have below average critical thinking skills. They have to justify their useless degree somehow.

More big Pharma/big food shit to keep people sick.
 
Artificial intelligence and large language models are a government ploy to remove the last vestiges of internet anonymity and freedom. The Swift deepfakes were an attempt to convince people that we need digital IDs on everything but failed. The next big deepfake controversy will probably succeed. Maybe those twitter artfags were accidentally right?
 
I think the whole 3 meals a day/ breakfast is the most important meal mantra is a scheme to keep Americans fat as fuck. Skipping breakfast isn’t going to starve your fat ass to death or make you - a healthy first world citizen - become malnourished. Starvation mode is a fake news.

On the other hand, being sedentary and eating three 1000 calorie meals plus snacks and drinks, might just kill you.

I think nutritionists are morons and have below average critical thinking skills. They have to justify their useless degree somehow.

More big Pharma/big food shit to keep people sick.
Every first meal of the day is breakfast technically, but I'm being pedantic.
 
I thought this was the modern consensus?
No, the modern consensus is that neanderthal was just another homonid, with a similar set of behaviours to homo sapiens, that we interbred with voluntarily over several thousand years until it died out. We fucked em to death is the popular interpretation of the idea. I mean, on the balance of probabilities it's likely correct (except the fucking-to-death part), but I'm always fascinated by diversions from supposedly settled science.

I think the whole 3 meals a day/ breakfast is the most important meal mantra is a scheme to keep Americans fat as fuck.
Breakfast used to be the most important meal of the day because it was often the only meal of the day, or very nearly so. A couple of hundred years ago, a typical breakfast was heavy on meat and eggs and the sort of foods that would give you a steady supply of energy for the whole day. You might eat a small meal in the evening before going to bed. The idea that we should eat three full meals is a very recent invention; the idea that breakfast should primarily consist of carbs is even more recent and was invented purely as a marketing tool by cereal companies.
 
That there were civilisations thousands of years before the Ice Age got really bad, then, at that time, most of our ancestors roamed the world, living off the fat of the land, becoming the nomadic hunter-gatherer "cavemen" we all know. There probably always were barbarian types, but they became far more commonplace, when the "lost civilisations" disappeared.

Mythical creatures/beings (example: Pagan Gods, wizards, witches/wiccans etc.) existed, and or, still exist, but are in hiding. Or their DNA still exists in us/certain animals. Like Neanderthals "living on" through Caucasian and Asiatic peoples living today. I know, it sounds bonkers, but mythology IS based on things that happened to/around people. The Trojan War really happened, for instance.
There's totally shit lost in our past.
I read somewhere the stone age was more the wood age, and of course most of that rotted away.
Besides flood myths being very prevalent across the world ( when the ice age started to thaw), I find it odd that someone, often someone with the gods or someone who came down from the heavens about the knowledge of fire to give to us himans, and was punished because of it.
Give Hamlets Mill a read. There's an audio book of it on youtube, too.

For sure monsters of myth are memories megafauna we encountered in the past. And who knows what we did encounter. The fossil record represents only a fraction of what lived on earth, and then what did fossilized but was then lost by earth movements, ancients grinding up bones for medicine, or where dug up and lost to time. What bugs me about this subject is we build our past off of what we have. Which is the thing to do sure, but I have a feeling history is like an estuary, most likely some things did survive past extinction events in small numbers. For how long? No idea. I'm not saying there's a sauropod in the Congo, but I wouldn't doubt a sasquach like ape lived in north America pre European exploration. With the disease that spread and wiped out the tribes, who knows what else was wiped out.
Thanks for reading my drunken tedtalk
(Edit: My spelling is atrocious)
 
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No, the modern consensus is that neanderthal was just another homonid, with a similar set of behaviours to homo sapiens, that we interbred with voluntarily over several thousand years until it died out.
So much we will never know. I think a lot of that video is conjecture and a few things are outright off - Neanderthal skulls do have a protruding midface AND protruding nasal bones so they did have noses, not the flat nostrils the video shows. Eyes, well they don’t fossilise but are there any primates at all with slit pupils?
As to behaviour, that doesn’t fossilise either in the main, but there’s evidence of Neanderthals cannibalising each other (and there is of sapiens doing it too.)
The amount of gene flow isn’t huge, and it’s less than I’d expect from ‘two uneasy neighbours who were very similar.’ Whether there was raiding rape and predation is a very interesting question - I think he kind of blows credibility with the eyes and the look of a gorilla nightmare.
There’s so much politics around anthropology that it’s best to take most things with a pinch of salt. What he says about the position of the neck and skull for example, will never ever be allowed to be looked at because that’s one of the big no nos from colonial era science. Those textbook images of races stacked as a hierarchy used that skull/spine joint position as ‘proof’ that anyone darker than whatever wasn’t human. So it’s just one of those things that will get you not published regardless of truth or not (and I’m not able to say if it is true or not, I don’t study Neanderthal spines.)
I also like odd theories. They aren’t often true but very often contain little things that make you question or look differently at things and that’s always good
@Tequila Katie so I don’t double post. It’s not just wood that rots - iron lasts about a thousand years max in the earth unless it’s in very specific conditions. You can do a thought experiment- was there pre Iron Age iron? (Yes there was from meteorites at the very least, king tuts dagger for example) but if iron was used say some random amount like 20k years ago - we wouldn’t see it. It’s all have dissolved and even the stains left behind would be gone
I am completely ok with the idea that we’ve hit at least late Bronze Age a few times and been knocked back by catastrophe.
 
I also like odd theories. They aren’t often true but very often contain little things that make you question or look differently at things and that’s always good
Humoring thoughts or ideas from someone else which may initially outrage one's intellect makes life more fun, I find.
the idea that breakfast should primarily consist of carbs is even more recent and was invented purely as a marketing tool by cereal companies.
Right. The rise of Mr. Kellog. Something something "eat your cornflakes and stop masturbating" or whatever.
There's totally shit lost in our past.
Lost, obfuscated, stolen, and/or destroyed, yes.

I've actually marveled at just how many relevant findings have come out of the woodwork since this thread started. It's a constant game of pressing back on established "expert" gatekeepers and their honest if maladjusted skepticism (or straight up dishonest grifts) as they prefer to not have their boat rocked too much. And that's without getting into conspiracy "bad actors and organizations intentionally withholding knowledge for unfair advantage/oppression" territory.

Either way, hiding things like that won't last much longer.
 
The idea that we should eat three full meals is a very recent invention; the idea that breakfast should primarily consist of carbs is even more recent and was invented purely as a marketing tool by cereal companies.
I think a big hot greasy breakfast is the right move if you're going to be working outside in the cold or something but if you're doing something sedentary indoors it's a bit much. Then I can go for just something like a cup of oatmeal or even just a coffee.
 
Not really a conspiracy just a thing I noticed -
The eclipse on April 8 2014 and the eclipse that happened in 2017? The paths cross right over the New Madrid seismic zone, on or just before the Hebrew start of spring, 1 Nisan.
Nothing of interest will happen.
I doubt that. My kids don't have school. The town shuts down. We worship the old gods I guess.
 
The Hindenburg was sabotaged.
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I read about it in some Twitter thread, but I forgot the name of the account who posted it. The account regularly wipes all his posting so it's probably gone.
If I remember correctly the basic points were:
  • A suspiciously heavy press presence for the expected standard docking of a zeppelin
  • The captain of the Hindenburg believed the zeppelin was sabotaged
  • No other zeppelin since has ever come close to having the spark the Hindenburg supposedly had
The perpetrator, the Twitter thread claimed, was the fledgling airline industry and oil companies
  • For airline companies he showed that the original Hindenburg Disaster footage opened up with an ad for American Airlines and I believe it had further American Airline ads interspersed.
  • For oil companies he claimed that zeppelins were capable of moving many tons of cargo across the world on one tank of fuel and that they were on the cusp of becoming even more fuel efficient
He wrapped up the Twitter thread by saying that the lasting stigma against hydrogen based zeppelins is another piece of evidence that it was a sabotage job. The Hindenburg Disaster had a fatality rate of 36% yet zeppelins are still hated. Meanwhile, when a plane crashes and burns everyone dies yet no one calls for airplanes to be pulled from the sky.

I resonate most with the final point. I absolutely despise the fact that the media can create history and narratives. "Zeppelins are extremely dangerous and prone to catching fire" because of one case 87 years ago. Other examples of journo-scum writing history include: "Reefer Madness", Vietnam War backlash/protest and Civil Rights. Note that this seems to be a purely American phenomenon.

At the end of the day, I'm just angry that we were denied luxury air travel and cool 21st century zeppelins crossing the sky.
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There is no way the Arecibo Radio Telescope wasn't sabotaged in some way, or at the very least deliberately left to rot to such an extent that it ultimately collapsed. I'm convinced there were vested interests making sure that it would neither be maintained nor rebuilt, especially considering China opened its own, larger, dish-based radio telescope just prior to its functional abandonment.
 
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