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People like Zoomer historian think they have fringe opinions that the establishment doesn't want them to have, not realizing their opinions are the result of an American psyop to make Germany a more palatable ally for the Cold War and to save the reputations of wealthy noble class generals.
Which was to counter ludicrous propaganda from the war years to justify the loss of lives to defend polish independence by handing them over to the USSR.
Zoomer Historian is a bit too far into the David Irving camp of "Hitler did nothing wrong, it was all Himmler and a few rogue generals, Churchill was bribed to go to war!", but the guy making the response video probably still believes the Germans made skin lamps and jew soap
 
Looking back at this thread. I'm surprised that Zoomer Historian hasn't been mentioned yet.
But I'm also not surprised. As it's the most uninspired, bog-standard, Wehraboo/Nazi Sympathiser content imaginable.
Germany dindu nuffin, it was just a few bad apples, and the Allies were a lot worse.
How is it bog standard? Are there other Youtubers presenting the revisionist view?
People like Zoomer historian think they have fringe opinions that the establishment doesn't want them to have,
Has he expressed this sentiment anywhere? I've only seen a couple videos but this sounds uncharacteristic given his dispassionate voice.
 
Can we get a video on this historic moment?
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Am I the only one who hates Cody from AHH. He larps as a "trad cath" on twitter when he basically is a 90s democrat.
That's probably because he married a Catholic latina. I'm not on xitter, so that doesn't really cloud judgement of him
There's posts on this thread from awhile back of him saying mass migration from Latin America is a good thing because they're all based Catholics. When people rightfully called that stupid, he sperged out on them, then tried to claim it was all a joke people were taking too seriously before he deleted everything.
 
I like this Britbong (Yorkshireman?) who occasionally does very detailed analysis of obscure events in the military history of the decolonization era. He recently dropped a video pointing out all the misrepresentations of the "Siege of Jadotville" Netflix movie. Most of his videos are just that style of music video where they put old songs over kino newsreel war footage, but I think he was one of the early pioneers of that genre.
 
I like this Britbong (Yorkshireman?) who occasionally does very detailed analysis of obscure events in the military history of the decolonization era. He recently dropped a video pointing out all the misrepresentations of the "Siege of Jadotville" Netflix movie. Most of his videos are just that style of music video where they put old songs over kino newsreel war footage, but I think he was one of the early pioneers of that genre.
Pretty interesting channel. I was surprised to see that video in my sub feed, I totally forgot why I was subscribed to him in the first place, good video though. I don't really like nitpicking historical films, like uniforms or other film concessions like that, but I do like when people point out major plot omissions or alterations. His accent is really confusing to my ears and I had a difficult time placing it.
 
I like this Britbong (Yorkshireman?) who occasionally does very detailed analysis of obscure events in the military history of the decolonization era. He recently dropped a video pointing out all the misrepresentations of the "Siege of Jadotville" Netflix movie. Most of his videos are just that style of music video where they put old songs over kino newsreel war footage, but I think he was one of the early pioneers of that genre.
I never believed the Movie was an accurate depiction of what happened, partly because they obviously employed subpar military advisors. Also if you notice a lot of the weapons used are inert props and couldn't fire blanks.

Quinlan was known as a bit of an oddball in the Irish defense forces. The film hints at that with his obsession about WWI.

Really the battle came down to the fact that Quinlan had a pair of Vickers Machine guns mounted on Tripods that could be used for indirect fire, as well as a 60mm Mortar. He also had taken more ammunition than he should have. He did extremely detailed range tables and they were essentially able to kill anything within 2 miles, even when the attackers tried to use hill cover. He also had a pair of armoured cars, but their use was rarely mentioned.

After the battle the Defense Forces just assumed it was Quinlan's fault, because that was the reputation he had. They didn't understand the scale of the attack and I think took the lack of Irish casualties as a sign he hadn't put up a fight.

Also the film doesn't make really make clear that Conor Cruise O'Brien was a huge figure in Irish Politics, and in international diplomacy. What he was trying to do was essentially feasible but for some reason the troops were left at Jadotville without being given a role in Operation Morthor or even told it was going ahead (though that's disputed)
 
I haven't watched this yet. I saw an interesting comment, though.
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I used to like Historia Civilis but I re-watched his Rome series recently and his weird POV on the Optimate/Populare debate and the ensuing Civil War is weirdly partisan for some shit that happened over two thousand years ago. You'd think this guy was a dyed-in-the-wool, Brutus-is-my-brother-in-law, Optimate by the way he talks about Caesar and the Populares.
 
I used to like Historia Civilis but I re-watched his Rome series recently and his weird POV on the Optimate/Populare debate and the ensuing Civil War is weirdly partisan for some shit that happened over two thousand years ago. You'd think this guy was a dyed-in-the-wool, Brutus-is-my-brother-in-law, Optimate by the way he talks about Caesar and the Populares.
When even YouTube commenters tell him to stop being such a biased faggot you know something is wrong.
 
When even YouTube commenters tell him to stop being such a biased faggot you know something is wrong.

Dovahhatty's series has my favorite take on the matter, reasoning that Caesar was an Optimates plant, who was only a demagogue so he could save the plebians from themselves.
To be somewhat charitable to him, it is a bit refreshing to hear an alternate take on Julius Caesar and the Populares when most historical commentary and works set during the Last Crisis of the Republic tend to take Caesar's side and cast him as the "hero" of the narrative, but he takes it entirely too far. It's either that he's a political ideologue forcing modern Culture War bullshit and shits on Caesar to own le chuds who worship him, or it's that he is genuinely just some seething historyautist who can't get over that The Good Guys™ lost against Caesar. Either way, like I said, he crosses the line from "legitimate counter-to-mainstream-thought perspective on Caesar and the Crisis" to "Brutus did nothing wrong, sic semper tyrannus, Philippi was the worst day of my life" and it just becomes absurd.
 
The guy who wrote the script for voices of the past's excellent video on ancient chinese western relations has a youtube channel and did a pretty neat video on the founding of Massalia (Marseille) and how the sources say the city works, as part of a series on Strabo's Geography.
 
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Either way, like I said, he crosses the line from "legitimate counter-to-mainstream-thought perspective on Caesar and the Crisis" to "Brutus did nothing wrong, sic semper tyrannus, Philippi was the worst day of my life" and it just becomes absurd.
I enjoyed the series at first until the later episodes where he began actually getting autistic over Caesar's character, and portraying a lot of his battles after the conquest of Gaul as the result of luck. It's also made me wary to his portrayal of Mark Antony because HC always renders him as a bumbling retard, although that seems to be mostly right when it comes to politics.

Also considering his newest Work video, you know exactly which type of guy he is.
 
After the battle the Defense Forces just assumed it was Quinlan's fault, because that was the reputation he had. They didn't understand the scale of the attack and I think took the lack of Irish casualties as a sign he hadn't put up a fight.
Was that the cultural factors inside the DF that gave A Co a bad name our Britbong alludes to?
 
I enjoyed the series at first until the later episodes where he began actually getting autistic over Caesar's character, and portraying a lot of his battles after the conquest of Gaul as the result of luck. It's also made me wary to his portrayal of Mark Antony because HC always renders him as a bumbling retard, although that seems to be mostly right when it comes to politics.

Also considering his newest Work video, you know exactly which type of guy he is.
I think it's definitely important to view just how lucky Caesar was. He was playing high-stakes gambling in Gaul and throughout his career, but I don't like HC's dismissive view of Caesar's military prowess or basically just accepting at-point-blank Optimate and later Augustan narratives of Mark Antony being a drunk retard. Antony probably wasn't the sharpest tool in the box, and he definitely had his problems (Caesar had him removed as the Governor of Italy for bungling debt forgiveness negotiations and forcing Caesar to return from Egypt early), but that doesn't make him a complete moron. Antony singlehandedly won Philippi, since Octavian got BTFOd in the first day and if Mark Antony hadn't salvaged it by beating Cassius it would've been a defeat.

Yeah the Work video is cringe and I got the feeling he was trying to nip up the tablescraps at the Breadtubers' Table. It's really a shame that most of the Roman historical commentators buy into this shit as well. I really like The History of Rome podcasts, but Mike Duncan himself is a stupid retard with questionable beliefs and even worse commentary on anything else except those podcasts. The only other I can think of off the top of my head is Dovahhatty but his is more meme content and leans heavily on the "Roman State Propaganda but I'm doing it unironically" meme and it's hard to take it seriously.
 
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