Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[LucasSomething]

Some screenshots of her Thread posts from yesterday that I missed, and one from half an hour ago. All archived.
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Vivzie is REALLY dying on the hill that "You dont know the CONTEXT REEEE"



>If the scene comes truly hate it i'll respect that

I'll highly doubt it lol but let's give vivzie the actual benefit of doubt for a second here. In what context is that justified? There are many possibilities but the scenario i'm envisioning here one of "empowerment". Angel's song is meant to work like Fizz song with mammon, a big but not as literal fuck you to Valentino and the rape is shown to show everyone that valentino is abusive and Angel is tired of pretending he isnt, and after that point he's leaving him permanently to stay at the hotel.

The problem is that Vivzie already made this hell too cynical for anyone inuniverse to care but AGAIN, giving her the benefit of doubt, i expect Valentino and Vox to attempt taking Angel by force only for him to be protected by Charlie and Alastor, just like Fizz was protected by ozzy. It would be recycling but she recycled angel's drama with fizz so why not, as long as it's gay people will clap.

Either way, i don't think the main criticism that those scenes are obvious fujo fetish fodder would change but that remains to be seen, i'll wait to see and i'm open to other theories lol.

 

[George Lucas]

Cartoons are for children you fucking sickos.

 

[Squanto Airi]

"Sexual Assault survivors aren't a monolith. They all cope with their trauma differently." Says the fujo trying to justify her fetish for rape and abusive relationships. I must literate that the problem that people have with Viv is that she is dishonest and using sexual assault surivors as a shield.

Wasn't this the Amouranth and Anisa excuse for continuing to do nudes despite saying they're victims of sexual assault.

 

[Shidoen]

For every bad story I've been told about Bakshi, I've heard five good stories. He flipped tables, punched walls, yelled and screamed but he is a goofball and easy to like. He also didn't limit his rage to his underlings, he'd go schizo with executives. He is an old school New Yorker. Most animators stayed by his side during projects and most that have worked for him enjoyed most parts of the experience. He is uniquely himself and I can't agree with all his antics, I also find it hard to absolutely hate him.

Viv seems to actively go after her staff.

He might not make great stories and he may cut some animation here and there. I respect him the most as he never skips out on the nipples in his animation.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

It's a work of fiction, but where in the Bible does it say people go to Hell?

Most stuff about Hell is post biblical innovation, the OT talks about Sheol (the land of the dead, the grave, the Underworld) as the same for everyone and in the NT there's the last verse of Isaiah, Daniel 12 and the Jesus in the Gospels. Revelations has a lot of apocalyptic imagery that was inspired by Greco-Roman Jewish concepts of divine reward and punishment.

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[Blue Gem Kosher Queen]

I don't know if it's because Viv keeps doing laps on her own arguments but I have the legitimate question of who exactly is coping with this.
I'm under the impression (which probably everyone else is) that she is talking about herself and her crew but the probabilities aren't exactly in favour of an animation department largely composed of SA survivors all agreeing on the how Angel has been handled. Specially for how present this Val guy is in relation to Angel.
A tiny schizo part of me thinks that, unironically, Viv is lying by omission and Angel (the character or my default the pooner that larps as him) is the one that copes by sexualizing himself.
Look, I'm not one to like to tell people what they can or can't do on their own projects but I think that the only term I can use to describe the persistence of fictional SA survivors as mental wrecks that deal in self-destruction with sexual undertones and are always defined by the monsters that took advantage of them all with a veneer of fucked up romanticism as nothing short of problematic. Yes, I want to beat myself for writing that.
TL; DR: VivziePop is a fat slag that wishes she was a fag to be railed from behind.

 

[Sundae]

Say what you say about Heaven & Hell.
I'm stick with the Darksiders lore (either Heaven and Hell are a bunch of obssesive fuckers who's gonna kill anything in their path), not this gay furfag piece of shit Vivzie made.

Based Darksiders enjoyer. If I had 50k to burn like Verbalase did, I'd commission a video of War teaming up with the Doom Slayer to wreck the HH version of hell.

 

[Not A Fed]

I've been seeing trannies talk about this shit for years, and there's only one single 4 year old pilot episode with 1 single season that hasn't even aired yet? Are you fucking kidding me?

 

[Beautiful Border]

Cartoons are for children you fucking sickos.

This is no different than saying video games are for children. Animation is a medium of storytelling, there's no sensible reason for it to be limited to any particular demographic. It's depressing people still say stuff like this when Akira is almost forty years old.

 

[George Lucas]

This is no different than saying video games are for children. Animation is a medium of storytelling, there's no sensible reason for it to be limited to any particular demographic. It's depressing people still say stuff like this when Akira is almost forty years old.

Whenever I remind some animefag that cartoons are for kids they always bring up Akira. Watch a different movie!

 

[MagneticTowels]

Place your bets!

How much longer until Flashgitz makes fun of this whole situation and Verbalase at the same time? I give it three weeks.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

$50k is probably more expensive than what it costs to film actual porn

Thats more than the average OF thot will ever spend making "content" and more than a mainstream studio spends in a month of shooting content. You could have easily talked to real porn producers and shoot a real life version for much cheaper. Considering how much devil/hell based content Burning Angel has done the last 2 decades and everyones love of musicals you could have gotten an entire "feature" length parody for 10% of that.

because it doesn't require 20 frames per second of handcrafting

I thought most animation at this point is down to 8fps. you only get close to 20 for action sequences, mostly its at 12fps. depending on how cheap/smart the studio is you can easily see 6fps and 4fps in the older days.

FNAF is huge in the Mexican community and Latin America on a whole.

Did they only get the internet in 2014 or were they the last group of people still regularly going to CEC or both?

 

[Sneed (formerly ﷽)]

Cartoons are for children you fucking sickos.

Sonic Underground clearly disproves your argument, bitch.

 

[Thel Vadam]

Hilarious perfectly retarded in every way imaginable without being downright nasty, this would be a pretty funny bit.

 

[PaladinBoo]

Wasn't this the Amouranth and Anisa excuse for continuing to do nudes despite saying they're victims of sexual assault.

Yes and it is also the excuse Jamie Marchi uses to change dubs for anime and video games and to also act like a utter bitch to men on both Twitter and IRL While Marchi was never abused she uses the abuse that other women suffered at the hands of men as an excuse for being a piece of shit saying she is; "giving a voice for the voiceless". You'll notice a habit of really shitty women using the suffering and abuse of other women in order to justify their terrible beliefs and behavior.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

I thought most animation at this point is down to 8fps. you only get close to 20 for action sequences, mostly its at 12fps. depending on how cheap/smart the studio is you can easily see 6fps and 4fps in the older days.

Well that's why I said "more or less". Obviously modern techniques are used to not have to handdraw every second. Besides that, there's also modern techniques like vectoring that are used to save time. It's still a lot more time consuming than getting two people in a room and pointing a camera at them.

 

[Squanto Airi]

Whenever I remind some animefag that cartoons are for kids they always bring up Akira. Watch a different movie!

Perfect Blue is a good one. Though the problem is most people in the US really only watch shonen, shoujo, maybe a bit of seinen, or the really degen stuff.

 

[poisonedapple]

The only way Vivziepop can get away unscathed with the whole Angel Dust rape thing is that Angel Dust is doing a dance and song number and keeps getting flashbacks to his abuse. And then was like I don't want to be sexualized anymore. Then goes to therapy or something.

 

[Shidoen]

This was talked about before but Angel Dust was a cope character Vivzie made when she was in an abusive relationship right? I mean originally he was in a relationship with Vaggie but now he’s gay? Really makes you think what was going on inside Vivzie’s thought process with the creation, shift, and now final product that is Angel Dust.

 

[Tinnitus]

The only way Vivziepop can get away unscathed with the whole Angel Dust rape thing is that Angel Dust is doing a dance and song number and keeps getting flashbacks to his abuse. And then was like I don't want to be sexualized anymore. Then goes to therapy or something.

You've just described the Addict music video.

At the end of it he decides to remain in the hotel since Vizie can't rape him there.