Liz Fong-Jones / 方禮真 / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey / Honeycomb.io Field CTO - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

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These tweets read like awful Vampire the masquerade session with deluded Philip as the game master

No wonder why they can't DDoS a filthy gossip forum who openly talk about their shitty ops and delusions or grandeur.
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I wonder if holy water would actually burn these Troons like acid?

They have an aversion to water in general, so perhaps holy is even more corrosive to them?

If not, I wonder if a priest would be willing to bless a clear acid?
 
>My people
What are his people?
Slave owners?
Plantation owners?
Colonisers that shot aggressive natives wielding spears made from sticks and stone?
 
Couple of observations:
Lorelei is obsessed with his “cold open DMs” - firstly to Liz to involve himself in the first place, and then to get access to the secret tranny Signal group. He’s boasted about that several times, and it must be what he thinks of as his superpower when it comes to persuading ISPs to bend to his will, when what’s really doing the trick is the threat of cancellation - implied blackmail.

I suspect he’s also an absolute raging sex pest in peoples’ DMs, “cold open” is PUA talk isn’t it?

Second thing: all the grifting and commotion about moving and launching his career, I think Liz is done with this domineering lunatic, as well as the whole gay operation. Lorelei is now feeling like he’s been used and then dropped (hey, you volunteered, asshole!) and is now pulling out all passive aggressive stops to get Liz to pay him to go away. That’s just the tone I get from the tweets. All the “Nazi hunter” shit is him building himself up in his own mind to demand a payout.
 
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Can Katherine be split off into his own thread?
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A separate thread is being planned.

Meanwhile, here's Philip Sisson (Katherine Lorelei) promoting a new Wired article about KF & censorship:
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The author is another troon, btw.
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https://www.wired.com/story/kiwifarms-tech-ethics-networked-harassment/ [Archive]
The title was changed at least once, maybe twice or more (since the URL is totally different).
From a brief skim of the article, it sounds like this troon journo is trying to gently warn against messing around with Tier 1 ISPs to censor websites, since the evil rightwingers might start using this tactic as well. He's waffling about it though, as he clearly doesn't want to get dogpiled by his fellow troons. :lol:

Here are the bits about Liz and Kat:
Kiwi Farms was subject to a broadly successful series of campaigns led by erstwhile targets of the site, like the streamer Clara Sorrenti and technologist Liz Fong-Jones. The activists—most of whom are trans women, a group the site has viciously harassed for years—pressured Tier 1 internet service providers (ISPs) like Cloudflare (sometimes known as the internet’s backbone) and got them to cut off Kiwi Farms, making it harder for the site to be accessed globally. The battle “raises serious doubts about society’s ability to block any site from the global web—even one that explicitly incites violence,” writes Washington Post reporter Nitasha Tiku.
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For their part, End Kiwi Farms’ Liz Fong-Jones and Katherine Lorelei were bemused by the idea that they fanned the flames of censorship: “It’s contradictory to hear organizations like the EFF call for the government to intervene, and also to call government intervention ‘censorship’ in the same breath.” The two women mentioned the Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act and the Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act, also known as SESTA/FOSTA—laws that the EFF strenuously opposed—as a clear example of the alternative to End Kiwi Farms’ activism. “If you want to move [acceptable use policy] enforcement to the realm of government oversight, it’s more than likely going to result in a much more heavy-handed approach than is necessary,” they said.
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THUS, BREAKING UP their network is the chief strategic goal. It is the least intrusive option that remains effective. It’s why people like Fong-Jones and Lorelei chose the targets they did. If you add speedbumps—friction—to those seeking to access a site like Kiwi Farms, you make it much harder to source the crowd. You make it harder to draw enough people in the vile hope that one among their number will be deranged enough to go the extra mile in attacking the target in more direct ways. Such networks radicalize their members, ratcheting up their emotions and furnishing them with justifications for their abuse and more besides.

Breaking up the network does not eliminate the problem, but it does ameliorate it. The harder you make it to crowdsource, the likelier it is that a particular harassment campaign will fizzle out. Kiwi Farms remains able to do harm, but it would be a mistake to suggest that its endurance on the internet means its victims have failed to hobble them. They’re weaker than they once were, there are fewer foot soldiers to recruit from, it’s harder for the fly-by-night harassers to access the site conveniently. When you winnow such extremists down to their most devoted adherents, they remain a threat, but they lack the manpower to effect harm the way they once did.
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Interesting side-note, this article appears to confirm that the recent EFF article about Kiwi Farms was written by Corynne McSherry, so the theory that her identity was leaked from inside the organization is most likely true. Remember that the EFF article author was deliberately kept anonymous to prevent harassment.
EFF legal director Corynne McSherry pointed to the advantages of using a state institution to deal with these sorts of issues: documentation, accountability, and clear, common standards. She added that allies can help by “demanding that law enforcement do their jobs, which is not happening, and that Congress enact real and enforceable data privacy protections that would make doxxing harder,” and reminded me that the EFF’s focus here is global; many debates on this issue tend to be quite parochial, focused tightly on the US with occasional, glancing references to the EU.
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In an ideal world, the accountability of state-based mechanisms would be preferable to the more arbitrary and opaque dictates of the corporate world, but how could anyone mistake our world for an ideal one? How can we trust the very criminal justice system McSherry criticizes, rightly, for pursuing, facilitating, and failing to stop the increasingly authoritarian goals of the far right: banning books, criminalizing reproductive choice and bodily autonomy, and so on?
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These people induce pity but its the same kind of pity as a labrador with a brain tumor who needs to be euthanized. They are beyond saving and will always be pathetic and miserable, if there ever was a human under their corrupt and perverse persona its clearly not there anymore.
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For me, it’s more like when you see a crazy homeless person ranting in the street. Clearly they have problems and they have been failed by society, but I don’t agree with the crazy shit they’re saying, I don’t want to talk to them and holy shit they’d better not touch me.
 
My 5-year-old nephew caught me reading the Washington Post article and saw Lorelei's photo in it, and his immediate response was "Why is that old man in a dress?". Clearly, our 'super-heroin'' still has work to do as all Nazi children haven't been euthanised yet.

Also, Null was right, the photographers on that article were definitely Kiwi operatives.
 
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