Help! I Care More About Climate Change Than My Partner - “She looked at her husband while they were driving and said, ‘I’m about to go all climate and feminist warrior on you.’ ‘Oh God,’ he responded with an eye roll”

When it comes to disagreeing about climate change, can there be a middle ground?​

By Brianna Sharpe
Updated September 13, 2023

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(Photo: Erik Putz)

One afternoon, I was cleaning up after lunch with my toddler balanced on my hip when I saw it: a Ziploc bag in the garbage. “Eric!” I shouted in frustration at my husband, who wasn’t even home. My daughter looked expectantly at me. “Dada home?” I shook my head, glad that he wasn’t. The words I was thinking of were not playground-approved.

I’ve had my Ziploc bags for years, washing and reusing them as if the planet depends on it. To see one in the trash felt like my husband was blockading my climate protest. Now, I know reusing ancient freezer bags won’t stop the permafrost from melting, and that even when he forgets his cloth bags and brings home cucumbers wrapped in plastic upon plastic, Eric is about as far from being a climate denier as I am. A children’s therapist and genuinely caring human, he makes the world better. We’re a great team. So why do I see red when I think he’s not acting green enough?

Eric thinks climate change is real and concerning. But my anxiety about the planet’s future is foreign to him. Recently, when we chatted about our kids’ lives 20 years from now, he described a future with things like careers, homes and families. All I could picture was a world they wouldn’t want to bring their own children into. How can we share so much, but diverge so drastically on this?

Caroline Hickman, a psychotherapist with the University of Bath and the Climate Psychology Alliance, says this kind of tension is increasingly common; she’s even seen couples break up over the strain of differing environmental views. “You’re not talking about whose turn it is to take the rubbish out; you’re talking about extinction and survival,” she says. While successful relationships are built on communication and compromise, “people are not willing to compromise on this.”

So when is a Ziploc not just a Ziploc? When it’s actually sadness about the distance I feel from my spouse when I get anxious about the future—often the times I need his support the most. But when climate change puts distance in our relationships, the same things that help the planet—empathy, action, community—can also help bring us back together.

When worry becomes a war​

MC, a 33-year-old psychologist from Cochrane, Alta., is a climate-conscious progressive in oil country. She’s resigned to bumping heads with Trump supporters and putting up the neighbourhood’s only non-Tory campaign sign. It’s the distance from her husband that bothers her.

Election campaigns are stressful in her house. When her husband voted for the United Conservative Party in the 2019 provincial election, they argued about every climate-related platform point. “It brings up this sense of shame, that I’m with a partner who would vote for somebody who would not help the climate,” she says.

This tension even led to a stalemate on whether to have children. MC worried about their child’s future and the ethics of bringing another person onto the planet. Her husband still wanted kids. After years—and lots of support and space for MC—they found a way forward, and she’s due any day. But when it comes to the big picture, their conversations still turn into a battle.

Hickman sees many people—women in particular—fighting to change their partners’ minds. But when worry becomes a war, it can wreak havoc, so Hickman helps clients develop empathy by talking through feelings and acknowledging where the other is coming from. “Unless feelings are processed, then the action—activism or anything else—is either a ‘fight’ or ‘flight’ response to anxiety.” And if processing feels impossible, she recommends taking breaks from the conversation.

Hickman also reminds couples that they’re “fighting this out as a microcosm of the rest of society.” Knowing that your conflict is playing out in other communities helps make it feel less personal.

Who carries the burden?​

Separating the personal from the political can be difficult when talking about climate change, especially when the burden isn’t shared equally. So many effective ecotasks, like planning low carbon menus and mending clothing, happen in the domestic sphere where—surprise!—women still spend more time than men.

The impacts of climate change aren’t equally felt across the population, either: Racialized people, refugees, homeless individuals, and northern and Indigenous communities are disproportionately affected, with women and gender minorities within those groups the most affected.

Even the awareness of these added layers can compound stress, says mental health and climate researcher Katie Hayes. Prioritizing individual actions (like, obsessively reusing plastic bags) is one way to gain control or cope with anxiety—but it can also exhaust us. We need ways to recharge, particularly when our partners aren’t helping in this area.

Self-care may have become a watered down concept more associated these days with manicures and facials than a coping mechanism for social injustice. But Julia Payson, executive director of the Vernon, B.C., branch of the Canadian Mental Health Association (CMHA), says we shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bubble bath. “Many marginalized folks worked really hard to establish the right to self-compassion in struggle,” she says, stressing that self-compassion should unite taking care of ourselves and each other.

One is the loneliest number​

Do you ever find yourself up at 2 a.m., Googling things like how to raise chickens in a scrambled worry over how to prepare your kids for an uncertain future? Is it accompanied by staring jealous holes into your partner’s peaceful sleeping face?

Hayes says that while the physical dangers of the climate crisis are obvious, the psychological impacts are less so. “We’re so used to cutting off the head without realizing that what affects our physical health also affects our mental health.”

Heather, a 43-year-old entrepreneur from Sparta, Ont., first learned about the Great Pacific Garbage Patch a few years ago on a podcast. As she listened to the horrifying details of this ever-growing vortex of ocean-bound trash, she became deeply troubled about the world she was leaving behind for her two kids, who were toddlers at the time. After reflecting for a few days, she looked at her husband while they were driving and said, “I’m about to go all climate and feminist warrior on you.”

“Oh God,” he responded with an eye roll, unsurprised his wife was going this way, but wondering how it would affect their life.
Although he’s supported her since then, he’ll also bring home plastic-wrapped bread right after she’s stocked the freezer with homemade loaves. “It’s a lot of work to make bread, soap, canned vegetables and everything else,” Heather says, frustrated by her husband’s consumerism. She lovingly calls their relationship one of “comedic tension”; she likes to wag her finger at him in jest, “and he gives me all kinds of excuses to do that.”

Instead of getting angry, Heather remembers she can only control her own choices and prioritizes self-compassion. She’s also founded Earthmama Farms, a charity that teaches kids about low footprint living and supports women’s economic security. “When you do something about [climate change], even if it’s baby steps,” she says, “a little bit of inner joy comes along.”

“We need community in order to bear the burden of this grief and of our responsibility to save what can be saved,” says Tiffany Sostar, a narrative therapist and community organizer. Sostar emphasizes that if bringing a spouse on board becomes another burden, “it’s not your job to convince someone your grief and fear and anger are valid and worthy of care.” Sostar recommends finding a therapist who can help navigate without placing the weight on you.

We also need to remember we’re not alone. “There are so many people who feel what we are feeling,” says Sostar. “They are writing blogs and books and Facebook posts and Twitter threads … They are feeling existential threat howling outside their doors, just like we are. Find them.” Payson’s Vernon branch of the CMHA, for example, runs programs where people eat, hike and talk together. And though MC still feels at odds with some of her husband’s beliefs, she’s not lonely. She’s excited about their future as parents, and is supported by two sisters who share her values.

The way through, together​

Action is a two-for-one deal: It helps create a sense of control, and fosters connection. As a stay at-home mom, some days my biggest accomplishment is remembering cups for the smoothie bar, but I’m still finding ways to effect change. I’ve joined a local food security group and am writing more articles like this one. Advocating for clean air shelters or bringing your kids to a Fridays for Future rally might encourage what you’re missing in your relationship.

I’m lucky that Eric and I agree on core climate issues, even if researching the carbon footprint of our food isn’t his idea of fun. When I ask him if he feels he’s contributing to climate resiliency, he nods emphatically.

Lately, we’ve been taking Hickman’s advice about empathy. Once the kids are in bed, we spend 10 minutes sharing, which has made my 2 a.m. panics less frequent. He’s also come to see my climate anxiety as a real and debilitating response. Though I still give him sideways glances any time he’s near my freezer bags, I think we’re getting closer to seeing eye-to-eye.

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Ostatnio edytowane:
You always know someone is living an immensely easy, privileged life when the only thing they have to worry about is "muh climut cwysis". Just look at the climate "activists" in Europe and the UK, they are all either well-off retired doctors, government employees or kids from elite universities who are privileged enough to be able to sit in roads all day and sneer at the "plebs" whose days they are ruining, preventing them from getting to work and feeding their families.
 
You're lucky all you got was an eye roll; I'd fucking pull over, tell you to get the fuck out, and walk. If you're gonna be this much of an obnoxious bitch, you can fucking walk, whore.

As an aside, was comparing airline fees recently; and found out that if you use Google to search between two airports, they fucking list the CO2 emissions of the flight.

Yes, I'm fucking serious.
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As an aside, you know what this woman needs; off-the-grid if not frontier living. Take away all the modern conveniences and keep her busy home making and womanly chores and she won't have the time or energy to go fucking spastic about the Pacific garbage pile which is mainly a fucking Asian problem (problem as in they cause it).
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
All I could picture was a world they wouldn’t want to bring their own children into. How can we share so much, but diverge so drastically on this?
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Perhaps its because climate change predictions have a habit of being wrong?

Alarmists have gone so far as to take a page from "psychic's" / medians that use generalized statements to rope in as many people as possible into their bullshit.

Yes, yes...it's coming to me now! Someone in this audience knows a family member with the letter J! I feel something in my heart or lungs!

Does anyone here know a family member who name has the letter J and died of something related to their heart or lungs?




Have you considered a lobotomy or electro-shock therapy?
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
If you are this worried about climate change you should be advocating for nuking China, Africa and India until their entire population is dust.
If you aren't you're a performative idiot.
 
lol that bitch threw a temper tantrum over seeing a plastic bag in the trash. imagine if she had to face an actual real problem in her life.
 
Eric thinks climate change is real and concerning.
Eric is playing along because you are an insufferable lunatic and he does not want to give up half his shit.
I’ve had my Ziploc bags for years, washing and reusing them
First, my grandmother did that because she lived through The Great Depression and even though my grandfather did absurdly well financially after WWII she could never shake the memory of having nothing and there be nothing to have even if she had money. So please bitch you are not special.

Second, if you really gave a shit about the environment you would get glass containers for your leftovers. The kind with the really high quality lids that will probably last generations.

Also the people you support are trying to bring on TGD 2.0 so ya know...maybe get a fucking grip.
 
“Eric!” I shouted in frustration at my husband, who wasn’t even home. My daughter looked expectantly at me. “Dada home?” I shook my head, glad that he wasn’t. The words I was thinking of were not playground-approved.

I’ve had my Ziploc bags for years, washing and reusing them as if the planet depends on it.
What I want to ask her is if she used or is still using disposable diapers on her children. (And you know she did or still does, because everyone does.) I'll let everyone do their own googling, but poop and pee in plastic is ... kinda icky.

If she's part of the six or seven percent of Americans who use cloth diapers, I'll eat humble pie.
 
Have a pal who was engaged to a cunt who was far more of a political type than he was. She became insufferable and he broke it off. They were living together at the time, offered to put him up at our place if need be, didn't want him to throttle her. As things went, the breakup came off uneventfully. Ya, my wife will wash out and save Ziploc bags; I just throw them the fuck out, cheap enough at the commissary.
 
This person has been told continuously by leftists that the world is ending soon and that you need to do something to stop it. Nevermind that the scientists who make these predictions always have to keep moving them forwards and are continuously wrong in their estimates. Or that anything the West does is a drop in the bucket since carbon emissions are majorly caused by developing countries like China because of coal plants. Or that proposed solutions end up being worse for the environment overall. Like electric cars weight more so they cause roads to fall apart quicker and require more trucks to come in to repair the roads. Which increases CO2 emissions.

I do think eventually the climate hysteria will fall off once these people grow older and realize it was a grift to milk money out of these people. I can't wait to see them get angry that the apocalypse they were terrified of never happened.
 
She doesn't really think the planet will be uninhabitable or that her kids won't be able to have careers and educations.

If she did, why would so many of her articles be about how the schools are variously failing groups of children she cares about? Why does it matter, they're all dead soon. Why does she care about smoking in the alphabet community? They won't live long enough for it to be a problem.

Oh wait. She's only doing it to strengthen the emotional force of her argument and control her husband at a micromanagement level people would call abusive if the sexes were reversed. She doesn't believe any of it. It's just to badger the man she supposedly loves (in another article she talks about how great it was to cuck her husband by kissing another woman hours after their marriage ceremony, it's ok because it's queer!).
 
Holy fuck what a neurotic cunt. You don't love your husband or your family bitch you are insane.

Now, I know reusing ancient freezer bags won’t stop the permafrost from melting,

Nothing you do will come close to ever making a difference, you are wasting time and effort on this shit. Why haven't you already thrown those bags away and just bought some glass tupperware instead? They wash easier, last longer and when they break they can actually recycle really well!

Man no wonder white population is dropping when this is the quality of white women.
 
If she wants to fight climate change, she should move to India or China and start trying to disrupt coal plants. Maybe she could meet a nice Pajeet or Chinese man and fall in love? After, I mean, the man is done beating her to death or whatever.
 
“We need community in order to bear the burden of this grief and of our responsibility to save what can be saved,” says Tiffany Sostar, a narrative therapist and community organizer. Sostar emphasizes that if bringing a spouse on board becomes another burden, “it’s not your job to convince someone your grief and fear and anger are valid and worthy of care.” Sostar recommends finding a therapist who can help navigate without placing the weight on you.
That's right, your feelings are everyone else's responsibility, so shit on your friends and family as much as you like. If they have a problem with it, dump them!

As an aside, you know what this woman needs; off-the-grid if not frontier living. Take away all the modern conveniences and keep her busy home making and womanly chores and she won't have the time or energy to go fucking spastic about the Pacific garbage pile which is mainly a fucking Asian problem (problem as in they cause it).
Exactly. She only wants what her social media feed tells her to want, which is to live in a constant state of existential dread that she's not virtuous enough. A month or two without Internet will do her a world of good.
 
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