Steve Quest (p/k/a Montagraph) vs. Nicholas Robert Rekieta & Rekieta Law, LLC (2023)

I don't necessarily think this removes Nick's liability on defamation, but this would be something that's relevant in Jury deliberation over damages.
The context that this was a mutual slanging match is certainly relevant to how seriously the people exposed to the allegedly defamatory speech would take it. So is the fact that Nick is a retard who is not taken seriously by anyone sensible these days.
 
showed up nightly to the defendant's place of business
If you go to someone's place of business
He showed up to my place of business
at your place of business
at his place of business

That's some Rekieta vocabulary right there. "Muh place of business". Nigger, he doesn't spend his days at an office building. His "place of business" is literally putting himself out publicly to try to get as many people as possible to see him on a streaming service specifically so they can watch and interact with him. Whining about someone "showing up at his place of business" in this case is fucking retarded.

At BEST, and I'm not actually making this comparison because it's too much of a compliment, Nick is a comedian and Monty is a heckler who started showing up after Nick did a set on him and they started slapfighting each other. Fuck outta here with that place of business nonsense. Lol. Especially since, continuing on the previous analogy, Nick could have a free "bouncer" in the form of the block button and chose not to because he wanted Monty to be a part of the show.
 
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That's some Rekieta vocabulary right there. "Muh place of business". Nigger, he doesn't spend his days at an office building. His "place of business" is literally putting himself out publicly to try to get as many people as possible to see him on a streaming service specifically so they can watch and interact with him. Whining about someone "showing up at his place of business" in this case is fucking retarded.
If only there was some sort of way to prevent people from posting on your videos or chat. Like a blocking tool of some sort. Oh well. Guess you gotta call them a pedophile.
 
That's some Rekieta vocabulary right there. "Muh place of business". Nigger, he doesn't spend his days at an office building. His "place of business" is literally putting himself out publicly to try to get as many people as possible to see him on a streaming service specifically so they can watch and interact with him. Whining about someone "showing up at his place of business" in this case is fucking retarded.

At BEST, and I'm not actually making this comparison because it's too much of a compliment, Nick is a comedian and Monty is a heckler who started showing up after Nick did a set on him and they started slapfighting each other. Fuck outta here with that place of business nonsense. Lol. Especially since, continuing on the previous analogy, Nick could have a free "bouncer" in the form of the block button and chose not to because he wanted Monty to be a part of the show.

Look Nigger, obviously for people like me and you who spend all day online that argument isn't particularly persuasive. However, for a fucking normie, they're gonna see "So this dude just shows up every day to the stream you use to make a living to try and talk shit?"

And lol at the idea that banning anyone actually would work. I sure hope accounts on Locals, Youtube, Rumble, and Odyssey aren't free and take literally like 20 seconds to make. You could easily argue someone with enough free time and dedication to show up nightly to start shit could easily have the ability to create a new username every night as well.

Your analogy of your best case is retarded. You can very easily bypass blocks and bans with very little effort. Again, this is the problem with most of you niggers in this thread. You think like Kiwis, 'cause you're Kiwis. You gotta think like nigger cattle and the argument of "Well I can't just block him, he'll just make more free accounts forever." is a pretty good argument.
 
Look Nigger, obviously for people like me and you who spend all day online that argument isn't particularly persuasive. However, for a fucking normie, they're gonna see "So this dude just shows up every day to the stream you use to make a living to try and talk shit?"
Oh you mean that stream where he calls him a child molester and dares him to sue him?

I'm pretty sure most people don't "earn their living" by being drunk 24/7 and falsely calling people kiddy diddlers.
 
Yeah I mean that same stream where this same retard showed up daily for weeks at a time in at least two separate instances over the years.
I'm pretty sure the normies you're claiming will definitely agree with you would not consider sitting around shirtless with jizz dripping down your face while drinking and talking about all the gay Balldo sex you have is some kind of wholesome, normal work-a-day Sixpack Joe activity they approve of.
 
I'm pretty sure the normies you're claiming will definitely agree with you would not consider sitting around shirtless with jizz dripping down your face while drinking and talking about all the gay Balldo sex you have is some kind of wholesome, normal work-a-day Sixpack Joe activity they approve of.

This is supposing any of that actually makes it into evidence and isn't objected to and thrown out as being irrelevant to everything. I mean even if the Plantiff and his team were to submit that as evidence, the defense would object to it and point out rightfully that Nick's retarded sexually charged alcoholic conversations with other people have literally nothing to do with Montagraph.

Meanwhile pointing out that Montagraph for weeks on multiple instances showed up to harass Rackets probably is relevant and might be worth mentioning to a jury.

It is extremely unlikely any of the spergatory you just mentiond, exaugurated or otherwise would be considered relevant to the case.
 
This is supposing any of that actually makes it into evidence and isn't objected to and thrown out as being irrelevant to everything.
What the fuck is going on in your head that you think the contents of Nick's livestreams will somehow be irrelevant to a defamation lawsuit about his livestreams? Do you have brain tumors?
 
I sure hope accounts on Locals, Youtube, Rumble, and Odyssey aren't free and take literally like 20 seconds to make. You could easily argue someone with enough free time and dedication to show up nightly to start shit could easily have the ability to create a new username every night as well.
Okay, Dyn, no need to use alts:
This is a copypasta based on one of Dynastia's comments on Bryan Dunn. It is a brutal piece and deffo my favourite comment/copypasta of all time. If you like it feel free to use it liberally.

"I was actually on your side until this shit happened, (insert name). That's over now. I'm going to start start continuously trying to get you fired from whatever pathetic, degrading, minimum-wage jobs you can manage to find. You'd better get used to mindless, underpaid shitkicking work fit for ex-convicts and drug addicts, because I'm going to ensure every single workplace you ever manage to find yourself in becomes aware of your past history, from misogyny, to holocaust denial, to threatening to gas jews over the internet. If they continue to employ you I'm going to singlehandedly astroturf them with letter-writing campaigns and SEO-bomb their brand name with shocking exposes on the type of person they hire.

I'm not going to stop there, though. I'm going to go after your wife. I'm going to go after your parents. I'm going to go after every single member of your extended family, your friends, I'm going to dox and ruin anyone who so much as leaves you an encouraging message on twitter. I'm going to pay to have the graves of your ancestors visited by craigslist whores and pissed on. I am going to devote hours of every day in my worthless, empty life to making you suffer, and I'm going to do this relentlessly for decades, and I'm going to call in all my chips and have all of the heaviest hitters here join me in this relentless crusade. I am going to turn your entire existence into a never-ending carousel of being fucked with in every way it's possible to anonymously fuck with a person within the confines of the law, and I am never, ever going to stop because I am a severely autistic sociopath with no sense of proportion and nothing better to do with my life. "
 
What the fuck is going on in your head that you think the contents of Nick's livestreams will somehow be irrelevant to a defamation lawsuit about his livestreams? Do you have brain tumors?

What the fuck is going on in your head that you think the content of any stream outside the incident Montagraph is suing over will be considered relevant?

Court isn't Kiwifarms. They're not gonna have normies going over the archives here to get their opinion of Nick. They're realistically gonna see what Nick said about Montagraph. They're gonna see what lead up to Nick saying that, and they're gonna see what if any damages it caused. They're not gonna make the jury sit through 4-6 hours of live streams and locals messages or browse his Kiwifarms thread.
 
However, for a fucking normie, they're gonna see "So this dude just shows up every day to the stream you use to make a living to try and talk shit?"
I'd actually imagine a normie would hear "This guy makes a living talking at people on YouTube" and think to themselves "Get a real fucking job".

And lol at the idea that banning anyone actually would work.
You can very easily bypass blocks and bans with very little effort.
Sure, you can. But Monty didn't have to, because Nick didn't even make the attempt. If Nick blocked his account and he kept coming back with another then your argument would still be just as retarded, but this aspect of it would at least hold water.

What the fuck is going on in your head that you think the content of any stream outside the incident Montagraph is suing over will be considered relevant?
Funny, because Nick sure seems to think that the content of his other streams is relevant given that a large part of his defense is that the general content of his streams aren't something that a casual observer would take seriously and would view as simple comedy.
 
They're not gonna have normies going over the archives here to get their opinion of Nick
That depends. Nick made it clear he wants to go over Monty’s history in Discovery and a good counter to that would be to do the same at the appropriate time. I don’t think most of his livestreams will be introduced into evidence, but the spiciest ones? Especially one where he says words like “Nigger” and “Faggot”? If I was Montagraph’s lawyer, I’d try to get that in.
 
I'd actually imagine a normie would hear "This guy makes a living talking at people on YouTube" and think to themselves "Get a real fucking job".

No one thinks that in 2023. We're in an era now where Tucker Carlson makes a shitty interview on Twitter and it gets like 10X the viewers of the top cable network. Your grandma might think people making content online isn't a real job, but the average American's like 38 years old, they probably get most of their news and entertainment from the internet.

Sure, you can. But Monty didn't have to, because Nick didn't even make the attempt. If Nick blocked his account and he kept coming back with another then your argument would still be just as retarded, but this aspect of it would at least hold water.

So we're moving the goal post now? Everything Montagraph did to provoke Nick's reaction is completely irrelevant because Nick, who doesn't ban anyone for anything that isn't illegal, didn't violate that principal to ban Montagraph?

That depends. Nick made it clear he wants to go over Monty’s history in Discovery and a good counter to that would be to do the same at the appropriate time. I don’t think most of his livestreams will be introduced into evidence, but the spiciest ones? Especially one where he says words like “Nigger” and “Faggot”? If I was Montagraph’s lawyer, I’d try to get that in.

That's a good point, but I think the big difference is that Montagraph has a history of trying to provoke Nick. We know of at least two instances where Montagraph has been very persistent in nightly attempting to engage with Nick which is probably why the history is important.

Additionally, you can't just undo Nick calling Monty a pedophile. What you can do is high light a history of Monty doing sex-pesty shit then argue with "Yeah I'm sorry I said he always sucks little boy penis, but he does all these other degenerate things that in a drunken, angry state, I said the first degenerate thing that came to mind."

You couple that with Montagraph's autistic harassment over long periods of time and that does sort of take the teeth out of Montagraph's claims of defemation and while Nick is still in the wrong it comes out as significantly less bad.

And like you said, Montagraph's accusing him of RICO violations for coordinated Hate Crimes, its not like we're dealing with a likable person who just happened to get defamed. All of this shit Montagraph brought on himself.
 
No one thinks that in 2023.
Disagree.

So we're moving the goal post now?
No goal post moving here. I'm just pointing out how utterly irrelevant your point of "People can ban-evade" is given the fact that no ban occurred in the first place. You set up the goal posts, and then ran head-first into them.

who doesn't ban anyone for anything that isn't illegal
You're wrong, and this is probably a good example of why you have such piss-poor takes. You say you haven't paid attention to Rackets in a while so you aren't up to date but he has banned multiple people based on his own personal hurt fee-fees.

"Yeah I'm sorry I said he always sucks little boy penis, but he does all these other degenerate things that in a drunken, angry state, I said the first degenerate thing that came to mind."
You're joking right? Please try that in court, you colossal retard. I need to see that play out.
 
No goal post moving here. I'm just pointing out how utterly irrelevant your point of "People can ban-evade" is given the fact that no ban occurred in the first place. You set up the goal posts, and then ran head-first into it.

Its not really irrelevant. What's the point in wasting the time to ban someone who can just evade the ban? I mean I think we can probably both agree that the intelligent thing to do would have been to just ignore Montagraph entirely and he probably would have gotten bored and fucked off again after a week or two, but for better or worse that road wasn't taken.

You're wrong, and this is probably a good example of why you have such piss-poor takes. You say you haven't paid attention to Rackets in a while so you aren't up to date but he has banned multiple people based on his own personal hurt fee-fees.

My immediate follow up question to that is: Did the bans start happening after the lolsuit started and/or after the Kiwifarms promoted him to lolcow status? I'm not defending the bans per se, but if there was an external event not related to the lolsuit that resulted in banning people, that too is probably irrelevant.

Its an interesting point though, I'll give you that.

You're joking right? Please try that in court, you colossal retard. I need to see that play out.

Your ability to ignore context is actually amazing.
 
And like you said, Montagraph's accusing him of RICO violations for coordinated Hate Crimes,
I feel like we laughed at this but never pointed out the real problem with this. I get the feeling that the judge doesn’t like Nick or Monty. And now Monty goes out and not only accuses the defence of two federal crimes and a tort(18 U.S. Code § 1962, conspiracy, 18 U.S. Code § 249) but also announces to the Judge that he will be wasting everyone’s resources and time for stuff (RICO) completely unrelated to the suit (the judge will likely have to adjudicate any eventual problems with discovery). However much Nick fucked up with his defamation, Monty’s doing a great job at making it seem like he’s doing this for an improper purpose.
 
I feel like we laughed at this but never pointed out the real problem with this. I get the feeling that the judge doesn’t like Nick or Monty. And now Monty goes out and not only accuses the defence of two federal crimes and a tort(18 U.S. Code § 1962, conspiracy, 18 U.S. Code § 249) but also announces to the Judge that he will be wasting everyone’s resources and time for stuff (RICO) completely unrelated to the suit (the judge will likely have to adjudicate any eventual problems with discovery). However much Nick fucked up with his defamation, Monty’s doing a great job at making it seem like he’s doing this for an improper purpose.
As we always say, it's never RICO. This is about the dumbest thing Monty could do to sabotage one of the rare Internet defamation cases that previously had a chance.

I think the judge views this as what it actually is, a literal retarded slapfight between two retards.
 
What's the point in wasting the time to ban someone who can just evade the ban?
Most people don't ban evade, and even if they do it would help build the same narrative of harassment that you're suggesting will convince the jury that Nick doesn't deserve a monetary punishment for calling Monty a pedophile.
 
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